Move to Paulville: the town where rightwingers will be free
Paulville: the town where rightwingers will be free
Paul Evans The Guardian, Monday April 14 2008
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/14/usa/print
At last, some cheering news for downhearted fans of Ron Paul, the libertarian Republican now certain to fail, by some distance, to secure his party's presidential nomination. This month has seen the first meeting of the shareholders in a fledgling community development planned in rural Texas, to be comprised exclusively of Paul's supporters. It is to be called Paulville.
The gated settlement will house freedom-loving folk, living unbound by the shackles of planning regulations. Its founders hope that when complete, it will inspire further Paulvilles around America and, in their own words, "literally change the world, one community at a time".
The Hudspeth County project has attracted derision across the US, though, with the political gossip website Wonkette.com uncharitably dubbing it "Paultard City". And even at this early stage, it appears that ideological compromises might have to be made. Necessity dictates that the community will function on a cooperative basis, albeit with the ability for households to opt out. The idea is that the option not to access communal utilities, such as electricity, will ensure that its founding individualist principles remain unsullied.
Paulville's supporters believe that politically like-minded individuals can form a thriving community, detached from a busybody state. But historical precedents do not augur well. Some 115 years ago, a group of disillusioned Australians set sail for South America, intent on toiling their way to a new society, in this case, free from avaricious capitalism. Colonia Nueva Australia was duly established in darkest Paraguay. Sadly, rows over leadership and booze quickly sealed the cooperative's fate.
Not all idealistic communities have failed. The Findhorn Foundation, a settlement in the north-east of Scotland, has flourished. Built on spiritual principles and ideas of environmental sustainability, it has become a model for eco-villages around the world.
Though they might have little in common philosophically, advocates of Paulville and Findhorn share the desire to create a template for another world. Jonathan Dawson, an educator based at Findhorn, doesn't see much point to inward-facing micro-communities and talks about "providing an example" to others. "It's not useful to retreat just for the sake of it," he says.
At present the online chatter amongst prospective Paulville residents is of septic-tank permits. But when residents are settled into their new homes, it will surely turn to the right to wield semi-automatic weapons and the abolition of income tax.





















I hope the citizens of Paulville
start a munitions factory. They will need it.
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Mees thinks this has been tried on a small scale already such as WACO and the FLDS. You cant get much smaller than Ruby Ridge. It didnt turn out so good. They dont like you having a free society. They dont even want you thinking that way. We could all join the Lakota Souix ( I think thats how you spell it ) they are claiming thier independance from the union. When I was a child and we played cowboys and indians, I always wanted to be the indian. :)
Paulville
Paulville will become the new Freetown Christiania.
Greeeeeeaaat!!! <-sarcasm
not so sure about this because
sounds like a hippie commune without the hippies...they are all democrats, right?lol
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is the guts it takes to
face the sunlight again."-Charles Bukowski
Paulville is a good, practical way to jump-start a free-state
I spent a good bit of time in the Free State Project back before the state vote, and in thinking about how everything turned out, I decided that a small project like Paulville would have been a better way to start. The problem with a large scale effort is that there is always going to be doubt as to whether it can succeed, and people are always going to be very reluctant to move until they see some proof that things are going to work out (they've seen too many such efforts fall apart in the past...usually after at least a few people lost a lot of money).
The advantage of a Paulville type effort is that it is far easier to put together than an effort to change a state government, and yet it can lay the foundation for ultimately doing so. How? Consider:
1. Putting a small town together is relatively simple. At the very least, all you need do is buy some land and put some trailers on it. It can be more elaborate and inviting than that, of course, but, hey, trailers are a beginning.
2. Once the town is put together, you have visible proof that your project is not just another harebrained scheme that is doomed to failure. You have a success story to crow about, and people will see that.
3. Those who see what you've accomplished with your small town, and who desire the same sort of proximity to other freedom-lovers, will either join you, thereby enlarging your town (and its impact in the region), or else they'll start other such towns. Either way, chances are very good that you'll see more freedom-lovers joining up. Again, the key is a small, successful venture. Moving is a tremendous commitment, especially if you have to move very far, so not many are going to do it until they see substantive results. This type of effort will give them that.
4. As more people come on board, your influence grows, giving you the ability to start changing government at all levels.
The statement, "If you build it, they will come," is absolutely true. Most people are not pioneers, but many will join an effort that someone else starts. The key is to establish a good community charter, thereby ensuring that everyone who signs on knows what to expect where community life is concerned; and, of course, to pick a good state. In the FSP we poured over heaps of data on the various states, and basically came to the conclusion that Alaska, New Hampshire, Montana and Wyoming are the freest. My personal favorites are Alaska and Montana.
Something to think about.
Robert Hawes
rhawes73@gmail.com
http://jeffersonian73.blogspot.com
Author: "One Nation, Indivisible? A Study of Secession and the Constitution"
Robert Hawes
rhawes73@gmail.com
http://jeffersonian73.blogspot.com
Author: "One Nation, Indivisible? A Study of Secession and the Constitution"
"You're so concerned with squabbling for the scraps from [the king's] table that you've missed your God-g
Free State Project
Dr. Paul endorses projects like Paulville - see this article from the Free State Project
Anything to turn the sheeple away from the cliff . . .
fsp
it's not at all the same kind of arrangement.
fsp is a state wide sprinkle of libertarians.
paulville is a "gated community".
personally, i don't think he would endorse paulville.
it will just be a target.
Ron Paul is My President
I don't think so. It could
I don't think so. It could be very successful.
Biggest problem, to me, seems to be its site in Hudspeth County. How far out is that from El Paso?
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fyi
http://lonestartimes.com/2008/04/18/ron-paul-supporters-plan...
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Oh look..some witless
Oh look..some witless wonders started a website, and they don't like Ron Paul. So what..?
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fyi
http://lonestartimes.com/2008/04/18/ron-paul-supporters-plan...
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Come on guys...you can't be FREE...in the patio of tyranny !
Trans Texas corridor...Mexican flags flying over municipal buildings...etc.
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Discover Costa Rica
The Amish
lead lives of simplicity and sexual modesty. These are two indispensable traits of a successful community. Unfortunately, there is a dark side to libertarianism which upholds financial and sexual conquest. Intentional communities usually fail because they forget about the children.
Incoherent garbage
where is the flag link?
Fianancial conquest? Free markets are the most fair markets there are. If there were truly free markets wealth is distributed very evenly. As for your reference to sexual deviance being tied somehow to libertarism. Take a look at your government officials......I don't see our libertarian minded congressman tapping his foot in bathroom stalls or rubbing cigars in strange places. And your child comment, Libertarians beleive in education their own children as they see fit and teaching them morality and ideals and the golden rule. You post is nonsensical and the ramblings of a drooling idiot.
"Endless money forms the sinews of war." - Cicero, www.freedomshift.blogspot.com
No Paulville for me, thank you.
It kind of reminds me of cattle locked in a barnyard together. I read somewhere that farm animals have smaller brains than their wild counterparts. Being fed and caged in is bad for the neurons. I'll just remain free, thank you.
Someone once said that trying to get libertarians together is like trying to gather cats. Angry cats. I find that comparison to be a good one.
By the way, Animal Farm is a really good book.
I think Paulville is an
I think Paulville is an excellent idea, although I disagree with the concept of buying cheap desert land for building political enclaves just because they're 300 miles away from civilization.
There are a lot of attractive areas in the southern southwest; I love the desert...I'm especially fond of southern Arizona. But unless the founders of a desert community have deep pockets, they will have infrastructure problems on the order of (a) jobs, and (b) health care. The youngsters will need the former; the old farts will need the latter. Few will move to a "free desert project" that offers neither.
As for water and agriculture, I think both present serious challenges way out west, although the jobs and health care issues will be harder to solve than groundwater issues or living off the grid.
None of these are necessarily insurmountable problems, but things that will require serious planning AND funding to overcome.
That's why I personally prefer the idea of building experimental political communities in rural farm and ranchlands closer to the city. It's less pristine that way, but the basic infrastructure is already on the ground, and people can just move in without reinventing the wheel.
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Raising chickens
A neat idea but in a way I see it as surrendering. I've raised chickens, and to those chickens I was big brother. There were times when the roosters would attack when I entered their pen, but I put them in their place, and now when I enter the pen all the chickens flock to the opposite side of the pen as me, and I like it just fine like that.
However, if all of those chickens, or even 4-5 of them decided to attack me at once, you better bet I'd get the flock out of there!
Personally I agree with freethepawn, I'd prefer to just stand up for my rights - right where I am.
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Fortune Favors the Bold
I don't see why gates are necessary. In fact, i think tourism could potentially be a boon for the "paulville" economy. But I don't think it's an intrinsically bad idea.
Fortune Favors the Bold
I think you would just see
I think you would just see the buses rolling in to load us up. It would sure help them save time in trying to round us up from all over the country.
I think you would just see
I think you would just see the buses rolling in to load us up. It would sure help them save time in trying to round us up from all over the country.
well
Fortune Favors the Bold
I was talking to a guy from Camden, new jersey, who is working on community outreach shelters and a network that would function autonomously of the government. They work with local farmers, have buses, and do services etc. They don't use money, and rely on voluntary co-operation to provide a positive altertnative to the rule of the corrupt competing governments in the area (the bloods and the city). He was not a Ron Paul supporter, but he shared the same principles of opposition to centralized government.
I think these types of ideas are very positive. Ultimately, it will be the responsibility of liberty minded individuals to pick up the pieces when the empire inevitably crumbles. If nothing else, these types of projects are great learning experiences. If it fails, mistakes can be analyzed, and new attempts can take into account what went wrong.
BTW, as far as the free state project goes, Vermont, being the 49th smallest state in the union population wise, would be strategically viable, as well as being extremely clean and unspoiled.
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Right Wingers
Sheesh, when is someone going to get it right? You don't have to be a right winger (whatever that means) to support Ron Paul. There are people who are just interested in freedom and non-intervention who support Paul.
Register as Republican and Vote for Ron Paul
Did you guys
See the Village? The director is M Night shamilan.
Anyways, It is an interesting movie that I dont want to ruin it for you, BUT it is alot like what you are talking about. ACTUALLY they do it right, and you can get some hints about it. ALTHOUGH, I cant and do not sugguest living without electricity....
Freedom may be worth searching for.
Remember, Dont battle the govt with guns(ALONE), Beat them in court, in state legislature, or hire Ron Paul for president.
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Boooooooooo!!!!
NEVER tell me that I am certain to fail at ANYTHING. Go find a rock off the coast and invite your flock of pansies to Loser Island. I didn't become a delegate, which required that I stand shoulder to shoulder with McCain people (ewe), for NOTHING. Now into the kitchen and wash some spuds, we need the fighters up front!
ummm, err,,,,well...
whose going to break the news to the government they cant send in martial law troops???