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Rice and Beans Question

Does anyone know how much rice/beans to buy per person for a year?

I bought 50 pounds each of pinto beans, black beans, and black-eyed peas. I also bought 110 pounds of organic brown rice.

There's just two of us.

Any links/info would be helpful.


Lisa C.

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Was anyone able to answer the question about getting water from a 70' well with out electricity?

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Manual hand pumps...

.. for wells START at $700. And that doesn't include the coupling kit. =|

They will do 70' easily. Here's an example:


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I have been getting it for years, and the latest one looks great, havn't read it yet, but can't wait. It is basically libertarian, and so very practical. I am a Christian, yet it is not, but I have yet to find anything offensive, well, maybe the "irreverent joke page", but that's not so bad. I recommend it highly for everyone, even if you live in the city. This issues articles;
Preparedness issue:
Making bread
Survival gardening
Family Medical Kit
Storing food protein
Preparedness friends
Long term food storage
Whole grains for health
3 tiers of preparedness
Stock up on guns and ammo
Get building materials cheap
Understanding energy basics.

Well, don't bother me for a couple hours, please, and if you don't get it, eat your heart out. Just kidding. Will share anything wonderful I read later.
They have a website. www.backwoodshome.com

I've read...

.. several mainstream news items recently about how families and people are shifting quickly into self-reliance mode. I bet Backwoods Home and self-reliance businesses are doing really well about right now. =)


Sorry Lisa, lets just try it like this : Miscellaneous supplies to store up
• 25 pounds laundry soap
• 12 28 oz. bottles dish soap
• 73 rolls toilet paper
• sanitary napkins in sufficient quantity
• 8 gallons bleach (used for sanitation as well as laundry)
• 12 bars hand soap
• 6 24 oz. bottles shampoo
• personal products, such as toothpaste, deodorant
• chainsaw oil and other items to keep things running
• pet foods
• livestock feed
• 55 gallons kerosene for lighting
• 25 gallons Coleman fuel or other lantern fuel

Suggested contents of a good medical kit
A good first aid book
Daily prescription meds for all family
Ointments for the eye, fungus & cuts
Antidiarreal medication
Pain and anti-inflamitory medication
such as asprin
Burn treatment, such as Burn Free
Oral electrolytes (for dehydration from
fever, diarrhea, stress)
Cold remedies
Cough medicines
Cough drops/throat discs
Surgical tape
Needles to remove slivers
A dental kit to patch dentures,
replace fillings, etc.)

* Food and water for family, pets & livestock for at least 14 days; 55 gallons of fresh water will last a family of four for over seven days.
* Daily medications for family for 14 days
* Alternative heat source & fuel
* Alternative cooking source & fuel
* Alternative lighting source & fuel
* Flashlights & batteries
* Transistor, crank or solar radio
* Medical kit
* Matches
* Butane lighters
* Magnesium, flint & steel fire starter
Checklist for vehicle emergency preparedness
Jack & lug wrench
Spare tire
Battery jumper cables
Basic tool kit
Lighter air pump
Gallon of drinking water
Basic first aid kit
Emergency food
Candles with matches
Cell phone or C.B. can
be a life saver

Evacuation Needs
Storage food in large cooler #1

Instant potatoes
Dry milk
Canned tuna
Dehydrated eggs
Dry noodles
Dry soup mixes
MREs (military instant Rice
meals; meals ready to eat)
Dry beans
Margarine powder
Dehydrated fruit
Dehydrated vegetables
Tomato powder
Baking powder
Spices & condiments
Pudding mixes
Instant coffee, tea, drink mixes

Kitchen box in large cooler #2

Frying pan
Large pot
Smaller pot
Mixing bowl, steel (can double as cooking utensil)
Matches & lighters
Toilet paper
Paper towels
Dish towel
Dish soap
Dish scrubber pad
Bowls for family
Silverware for family
Metal spatula
Roll of duct tape
Small roll of wire
Metal cups for family
Small water filter
Propane stove & tanks
Flashlight & batteries

Medical Kit (as previously detailed)

Sleeping Gear (in large plastic box) Sleeping bags
Candles & lighters
Coleman lantern
Unopened gallon of lantern fuel
Bow saw
Warm socks & jackets
10’ x 12’ plastic tarp
lightweight tent

Rifle/shotgun and ammunition (food procurement, signaling, and family protection)

Personal backpacks

Warm clothes
Emergency food
Stocking hat
Basic fishing gear without rod
Small first aid kit
Space blanket
Roll of wire & rope
Pocket knife
Canteen with cup
A few dollars in quarters & bills


• 300 pounds of hard wheat or in combination with 150 pounds of wheat and 150 pounds of flour.
• 50 pounds of dry corn to grind for cornmeal
• 50 pounds of soft wheat
• 50 pounds white rice
• 50 pounds brown rice
• 50 pounds oatmeal
• 25 pounds of masa harina de maize (corn flour for tortillas and tamales)


• 50 pounds of pinto beans
• 50 pounds of combined other beans, such as navy, kidney, etc.
• 20 pounds of split peas
• 20 pounds lentils


• 18 #10 cans dry milk or in combination with boxes of store-bought dry milk
• 2 #10 cans cheese powder
• 5 #10 cans dehydrated eggs
• 3 #10 cans butter or margarine


• 50 pounds white granulated sugar
• 10 pounds brown sugar
• 10 pounds powdered sugar


• 10 3# cans shortening
• 5 48 fl. oz. bottles vegetable oil
• 2 16 fl. oz. bottles olive oil


• 10 pounds iodized table salt (used in pickling & meat preservation as well as table use)


• 52 pints peaches
• 52 pints apple sauce
• 52 pints fruit cocktail
• 52 quarts apples (includes pies, etc.)
• 52 pints pears
• 104 pints misc. fruits
• 1 #10 can raisins
• 1 #10 can dehydrated strawberries
• 2 #10 cans dehydrated apple slices
• 2 #10 cans dehydrated banana slices


• 104 pints of green beans
• 104 pints of sweet corn
• 104 pints of carrots
• 104 quarts of tomatoes
• 104 pints of tomato sauce
• 104 half pints tomato paste
• 104 quarts of potatoes and/or 22 pounds instant potatoes
• 26 quarts of squash or pumpkin
• 26 pints beets
• 2 #10 cans dehydrated sweet corn
• 4 #10 cans dehydrated peas
• 1 #10 can dehydrated onions
• 2 #10 cans dehydrated broccoli


•15 pounds spaghetti
•6 pounds assorted noodles
•6 pounds lasagna


• • 52 pints lean beef/venison roast
• 52 pints chicken/turkey
• 52 pints ham/fish/misc.
• 52 cans tuna
• 52 cans Spam
• 52 pints home canned hamburger for tacos, casseroles, etc.
• 1 #10 can ea. TVP (textured vegetable protein), bacon, chicken)


A heavy selection of garden seeds to replenish your food supply, should the period of hard times last longer than a few months. Always opt for the worst and prepare ahead.
Most garden seeds last for years, if kept dry. One notable exception is onion seed, which should be replaced yearly.


• 1 pound baking soda
• 3 pounds baking powder
• 1 pound dry yeast
• spices usually used
• 25 dozen canning jar lids, wide mouth & regular
• coffee, tea, powdered drink mixes in sufficient quantity
• A grain mill to grind grains
• An Amish or other “cooking with basics” cookbook or two
• 1 gallon inexpensive pancake syrup
• An assortment of “treats”, such as pickles, jams, preserves

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This is a well written article and will answer your questions on Romans 13


What a list!!

Only a couple comments - I always water down shampoo and dish soap to make it go further. I don't notice any difference - does the job just fine.

Regarding using iodized salt for preserving meat, all the recipes I've seen for making jerky (which my Boy Scout son loves to make) call for UN-iodized salt. Not sure why.


That was quite a list...


... "73" rolls of toilet paper? =P

Freeze dried

I have like 2000 bucks worth of freeze dried "food" from the 1980's and it is holding up great. I opened a can of peaches.. they were pretty tasty with the adding of water... and a short waiting period.

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How long does regular canned food last?

I stored about two weeks worth of canned goods a few years back.

Lisa C.


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canned goods

are things best consumed within a year or two. Most would have a maximum shelf life of 5 years and the amount of nutritional value loss and spoilage would increase tremendously. I am going to build a solar food dehydrator as it offers the best long term food storage technique for food that we produce on our land (which is being transformed into a survival community). There are plans readily available over the internet. I am basing mine on plans for making one with cardboard, duct tape and a pane of glass except that I will use plywood.

What can't you do with duct tape? Great stuff.

Maybe I'll toss my cans out now.

Lisa C.


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This is what a family of five would need for a year to survive. This article is from backwoods home magazine and is a little dated from the Y2K scare but has excellent info for anyone.

With commonsense planning, you can survive hard times By Jackie Clay

Walton feed also has some good info. http://waltonfeed.com/

My wife and I just recently purchased $1200 worth of supplies and it sure didn't buy much ! We will keep adding to our supplies as we can.

R Tucker

The 'Higher Powers': Martial Law vs. Christian Responsibility

This is a well written article and will answer your questions on Romans 13


Thanks for the links HIGHLANDER but the

one for backwoodshome doesn't seem to work. I might try doing a search on their site.

No, the money doesn't go very far.

Lisa C.


Ron Paul "Sign Wave Across the USA" -- November 5th!

Here are...

... links to Jackie Clay's other advice articles on www.backwoodshome.com :


A pound a day

Should be more than enough.. but I would consult a mormon.

The Revolution Continues at http://nationbuilder.org

The Revolution Continues at http://nationbuilder.org

best way to store the

best way to store the following

wheat, which i've heard is hard to store with potential bug problems.

and any others you feel you have advise for that could help your fellow countrymen.

thanks for your help.

For best results

on long term storage of rice and beans. Get some 5 or 6 gallon food grade plastic buckets with lids. Then stop by the local welding supply store and get a bottle of nitrogen and a short hose. Lay the hose into the bucket and open the valve enough to fill the bucket with nitrogen and then put your beans or rice into the bucket, turn off the gas and seal the bucket. When you go to use it, always dip from the top and never tilt the bucket as nitrogen is heavier than air and this will keep the nitrogen in the bucket.

That sounds pretty neat

I am going to have to remember this.


"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6


The lip of truth shall be established forever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment...Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are His delight. Prov 12:19,22

Do you have to show ID and give a DNA sample

to get a bottle of gas?

Lisa C.


Ron Paul "Sign Wave Across the USA" -- November 5th!

So far as I know

it is not a requirement and shouldn't be since nitrogen is an inert gas and poses no possibility for use in the making of explosive materials. Many auto shops now carry equipment for filling your tires with nitrogen as it is thought to extend tire life, improve tire performance and give a better and more responsive ride. If there is any requirement for id, other than normal business purposes ( you usually rent the tank and buy the gas), then perhaps a local tire shop could fill the buckets with nitrogen for you.

Just an afterthought

I have some buckets with nitrogen packed dried beans that are over 30 years old. I opened one recently and the beans were still edible and would sprout.


.. vintage beans! ;)



Lisa C.


Ron Paul "Sign Wave Across the USA" -- November 5th!


.. 1978 *was* a pretty good year. =P

How about airtight bagging


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food hoarding and rancid rice

Only buy food you actually eat, keep it rotated and you should not have a "rancid rice" problem. It is a rookie mistake to buy a bunch of food and wind up throwing it away. That is like letting the Fed manage your food budget - lol! Lots of things can go wrong with long term food storage, but throwing it away because you bought a bunch of something you have never eaten and never intend to eat is perhaps the worst.
Learn the tricks Granny used, like bay leaves in with your flour to keep weevils out.

Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.

I'm a bulk food rookie all right

and my granny likes to take Mexican cruises, shoot tequila, and watch soaps. Not sure she knows what a bay leaf is.

Lisa C.


Ron Paul "Sign Wave Across the USA" -- November 5th!

spice it up a bit.

pYou also want to be sure and get a stock of spices. Rice and beans are good with onions, peppers, garlic salt and an endless of recipes look them up.

Yes, exactly.

Just looking at rice/beans as a base.

Lisa C.


Ron Paul "Sign Wave Across the USA" -- November 5th!