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My daughter wants her license

in August when she turns 18, we live in a state which has NOT refused the federal ID. Does she need to get a Federal ID in order to get her driver's license? Does anyone know this? Or should I wait until she is 18, and let her make her own decision about this. I am very uncomfortable about this.



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Check out this thread!

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/44694

You may have seen this on the DP, but this thread is in regards to the fact that you don't have to surrender your constitutional rights to get a driver's license. The constitution allows you to travel freely.

It is only when you willfully surrender your rights by entering into a contract with your state and getting a driver's license that you start having to lose your freedoms.

I found this fascinating. You may want your daughter to skip out on the whole driver's license thing, get started properly by knowing her constitution, and thereby preserving her liberty.

I thought you became a pawn when your

parents signed your birth certificate.
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Lisa C.

www.women4ronpaul.com

Ron Paul "Sign Wave Across the USA" -- November 5th!

Her license *is* the REAL ID

That's the big problem.

RP2012!

Drivers License

Pennsylvania is working on HB 194 and if passed it will effectively disconnect SSN's from driver licensing. This is the holy grail for us in the fight against Real ID because without the linkage of SSN's and State driver's licenses they cannot implement Real ID. Every State needs to work on this. This is how we can decapitate Real ID.

Drivers License and Real ID

Whatever you do please do not use her SSN on any of the paperwork to obtain her drivers license. You can circumvent using her SSN by exercising Title 42 of the US Code. "It is unlawful for anyone other than a social security administrator to ask you for your SSN". Never give it out to anyone. Besides, its not YOUR number. It's loaned to you until you pass away. Use only her birth certificate to make this "transaction" work.

No, It's not

The Real ID is a national ID with an RFID chip in it. Most states don't have the money to do that yet. Passports have an RFID chip, though, so that's just as good as a real id.

Healthnut4freedom

"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6

Healthnut4freedom

The lip of truth shall be established forever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment...Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are His delight. Prov 12:19,22

A passport is *a* REAL ID, but only one variety

A drivers license or state ID card also is *a* REAL ID (once it becomes enacted, that is), in that the ID cards issued by the state are required to conform to the REAL ID requirements (RFID, etc.) thereby becoming a National ID card even though it is issued by the state. That's one of the problems that makes this thing so evil: the feds are taking over and mandating states how to issue their own ID cards to conform to a federal rule.

RP2012!

A lot of the states

can't afford the Real ID even if they think it is a good idea. They are just as broke as the federal government but can't make money out of thin air so they won't be able to implement this. Check that out.

Healthnut4freedom

"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths." Proverbs 3:5,6

Healthnut4freedom

The lip of truth shall be established forever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment...Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are His delight. Prov 12:19,22