*Hot Topic* "Dr" Steve Parent creates fiasco at RonPaulForums after posting 5 editorials overnight lol
Update: Picture of Steve Parent with President Reagan http://www.dailypaul.com/node/46708
After posting about 5-10 editorials asking for "for-profit" donations and promoting his radio channel(which is his responsibility). While claiming that Ron Paul Revolution Radio and other Ron Paul Radio Stations have "SHUT DOWN" www.rprradio.com
The "Shady" unknown "internet Ghost" "Dr" creates a fiasco or more like an "Inferno" at Ron Paul Forums
First a few entertaining highlights and then I'll leave you with the interesting OP
BrandonYates writes:
"I vote for banning, tarring, and feathering "dr" steve"
then he writes again:
"If you click the "listen now" link on "dr" steves website, it directs you to the stream being put out by ronpaulradio.com
"Revolution Broadcasting" is nothing but an extremely poorly done scam trying to get people to donate while not even providing any content, just linking to a radio station that has been in existance since last summer."
Rayzer who has 8 posts then endorses "Dr" Steve Parent
Then MelissaWV writes in a SHOCKING! revelation:
"Speaking of names, and definitely going to break a truce here...
I would like to point out that Dr. Steve has shared donor information in the #ronpaulradio chatroom, not the least of which was to call someone a "moron" who sent in a penny, and then use that person's first and last name. He also used financial information from a chatter who was currently in the chatroom to "out" his first and last name as well. These were PayPal donations to the new site.
Yes I know I risk getting this thread locked up, or myself banned, but please be aware your personal information may be flung around for fun in a chatroom if he does not like the size of your donation."
please enjoy the post and show the Shady "Dr" some 3VOL
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=133882
My Questions still remain unanswered! Who is Steve Parent? Who does he work for? What kind of Doctor is he? What does he look like? Who has seen him? Who knows him? Is there any video or picture of him? How come all people who dugg him up came up with a ghost? Why is there so much misinfo in his Roberts Rules of Order tapes? Why does he want to destroy the GOP & Ron Paul's 30+ years of work in the GOP? And many more questions that need be answered NOW!!! Please feel free to ask more questions and post your opinions on my Editorial.
Note: You are free to donate to Steve Parent. I dont control your wallets and purses. But I suggest you make sure you know what and MOSTLY WHO youre donating to & what cause it is going for!!!
thnks yall fellow Patriots for your support
3 days passed and still no replies from Steve Parent or his sock accounts
Wow - THIS is some ancient history
whats SGP doing TODAY, i wonder, sort of.
oh yea and one other thing,
oh yea and one other thing, controlled opposition is still opposition.
we were fired
I posted on here a while back about our change of circumstance, but did hold back on the punches and if you think the comments to follow are harsh you would be horrified by the full picture which involves disinfo, shills, and slander campaigns... Looking forwards being more important to us, we decided to assign the majority to history. Bigger fish in the pond... Turns out that fish could not swim anyway, lol...
Seeing this article reminds me of a few things.
We were axed from Rev.B schedule by Catherine Bleigh after doing a show about the benefits of running 'not-for-profit' organisations v's 'for-profit' ones. Rev.B was not the focus of our intention and was not even mentioned once.
Catherine was the newly appointed manager by rayaer42 (Raymond D Powell) and she called into our show stating that is was unfair to be criticising people who "just want to make money". She actually said that on air in our show, as well as some other rather idiotic things and basically accepted criticism ON AIR about our harsh words on profiteering from this movement!!!... Anyway our 7 month show was dropped 2 days later and we never went on their network again. We were all banned from the chatroom and sent to Coventry.
We decided to put our own servers into good use ( http://www.dailypaul.com/node/99099 ) and go it alone.
Rev.B had no explanation to give us for axing our show.
A week later and our outfit was suddenly attractive. I was asked to be a member of the Rev.B management team and drop our effort so we could work "under Rev.B". Rayzer actually said on more than one occasion during negotiations, that also involved Amanda Moore and Eric Nordstrom (Pyrabang) or is it pyrawhimper) that this was and I quote "a power struggle and lets be clear you will be underneath us".
Rev.B had this big idea to see their worthless empty airtime and needed our integrity to make it fly. We declined graciously, but look now and 'it ain't flying'.
Most of the hosts have left, some have joined us. All of the listeners have left and what could have been a good platform is now NOTHING.
Rev.B had great potential because there was a group of dedicated peopel who 'just wanted to be heard'. Unfortunately Ray, Amanda and Eric saw this potential as a fiscal one and by chasing the dollar lost the real value, the hosts and their passion.
But,
Alas... As one door closes another opens and we still have an outlet. Nobody has had to bring Rev.B down, it did it all by it's self and those who have good intentions on the most part learned by this horrid experience.
Good riddance,
I wish I could flag this useless thread
put your energy to something better than this. Your posts have been very negative NotOverYet. Please get over this negativity. SPG did alot for the cause, we don't need to waste time pointing out everyones flaws. That is if you think dissention is not good for this movement.
Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must. like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.-Thomas Paine
The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!
You have missed a critical point
What are the "Steve Parent delegates" going to do at the national convention?
This is about the *future*, not about the *past*.
And your comment popped the thread to the top again-
Not only that, but NotOverYet hasn't posted for more than 4 hours!
Dr. Steve Parent: Which story is true?
Given these huge discrepancies in Steve Parent's statements, medical doctor/otolaryngolist vs. owner of a marketing company, you don't think it is appropriate to question his credibility as an "expert" of anything?
Give me 10 hours, I could write a term paper on delegates with reliable citations to original sources by state. I could even have created that term paper as a website (RP2008 has state links for information, already).
Would that make me an expert to appear on radio stations? If so, "expertise" is sure easy to come by!
www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=134218&page=2
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Today, 03:32 PM
Drsteveparent
Senior Member
i live in Florida and i am a natural born American citizen and a primary resident in the united states.
I own a marketing company and travel to various places such as Canada, mexico, switzerland and england as well as various parts of the united states.
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www.dailypaul.com/node/46533?page=2
I had this debate in February
On April 23rd, 2008 Ryan says:
I had a long argument with SGP in February. I have resolved my issues with SGP merely out of the fact that it's a waste of time. However, I too stopped posting on DailyPaul because of him.
His e-mail says "Steve Gerard" which I assume was Steve Gerard Parent although I'm not sure why he'd use his first two names as his full name.
He claims to be an otolaryngolist.
When he was supposed to call me, he said he was out of the country and could not call an #888. Why is he out of the country so much?
I believe he lives in Winnipeg, MB, Canada and uses the ISP www.mts.ca. His IP address is 204.112.190.173. Is he even a U.S. Citizen?
I do know that he repeatedly lied to me on here, lied to me on the radio, I believe his old DailyPaul account was banned and that the accuracy of his information is very flawed.
I came to think Steve was an ambitious fool perhaps and he certainly put out a good message.
However, it is absurd to think that our "deligate teacher" (his spelling, not a typo either) is a Democrat whose not even a delegate. The movement isn't doing well if we have no RNC-delegate expert.
Where is RP2008 on this issue?
I agree, he is a bit mysterious
Fortune Favors the Bold
and as I have said before, he may be a DNC operative. But he has been helpful with educating people about parliamentary procedure. All delegates need to learn the rules, and decide, as individuals, what course they want to take.
Fortune Favors the Bold
Dr Steve who??
Good grief, he is an argumentative idiot who desires attention and are you serious about people donating to him? If things in this country weren't going so badly, this would be funny.
I gotta go
Im exhausted Ive been on for too long fighting for my answers which I never got from Steve Parent!
If you have any specific reponses about the thread or refutations then youre welcome. Peace out
see yall maybe late night or tommorow. I Have a life to catch now.. Dont forget to read. Dont respond before you read and read my Reagan Parent Lincoln thread. Over
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"let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeoprady"
Congressman Ron Paul
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Freedom. Watch this video
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mhmbzE1TR0s
Pls donate here Ron Paul can still win
http://www.dvds4delegates.com/
Thousands of people have done what SGP claims to
> As far as I have seen SGP was the one who brought up the
> idea of concentrating in the delegate process and who brought
> a lot of expertise in it.
Actually thousands of people have been doing what Steve Parent claims since last summer.
Thousands of people canvassed, registered voters, helped organized meetings, made phone calls, attended meetings and most importantly became delegates.
People have been holding classes on canvassing, the delegate process, Roberts Rules of Order, grassroot training and many other areas for over a year and continue to do so.
Steve Parent did nothing other than spam DailyPaul.
He has no expertise. We are working on campaigns for National Delegate for over 40 CD and State Delegates in my State. Steve Parent isn't even a county delegate -- he isn't even a Republican.
Why>?
Ryan
Yes, of course thousands knew about this and have been working since long time already. But then it is also so that also throusands thought it was all over and were not informed or aware or motived to become delegates, e.g. people you did not had contact with and SPG has reached them and made a difference. I do not know how you can say he has not expertise if you do not really know him personally and what he has achieved in his life already and with the DNC ad aministrator during the past six year. FYI: he has joined the GOP to unite behind Dr. Paul some 4 months ago and has also brought some of the D friends along to the GOP to work for Dr. Paul: is this also not wonderful and to be commended, rather than critisized? He said he will only vote for Dr. Paul and will stay in the GOP to make a difference and a change for the better. One can see he senses the urgency and seriousness of the situation in the country and therefore highly motivated, like many others as well. Should he not be welcomed, rather than pushed aside?
What?
Are you crazy or what? SGP is a ghost? Who was on Ron Paul Revolution Radio on March 26 then (http://www.dailypaul.com/node/44250)? If it wasn't him why didn't you tell us before? I'm really confused...
Being on the RPR Radio dosent mean hes a real character
Just like being on any other radio station or even on tv masked behind a phone
Example on Faux
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWidCQSL6jA
RPR were well intended bringing him on. And I already addressed that If you actually ever read what I posted. Thnks
btw Im not crazy.
"let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeoprady"
Congressman Ron Paul
__________
Freedom. Watch this video
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mhmbzE1TR0s
Pls donate here Ron Paul can still win
http://www.dvds4delegates.com/
Sorry, I didn't read
Sorry, I didn't read everything you posted. Don't take it bad but you're posting the same things all day so I started skipping it. Well, at least you know that he exists. He did great job and spent a lot of energy and money on it so I don't believe he's going to bury it.
I think I saw Steve's phone number before here but I wasn't able to google it - may be I'm wrong.
Imagine the headlines after the convention
If this is how RP supporters react about the opposition, just imagine the headlines if the "Ron Paul Delegates" stage a "coup" at the convention, whether or not it is successful.
Obviously, the person below harmed Obama's campaign.
More importantly, the hoax caller is the subject, *not* Obama.
LOL! Hoax caller in FLDS Raid is an Obama Delegate
www.dailypaul.com/node/46705
NOTHING harms Obama's campaign!
Haven't you noticed that by now? Scandal after dirty scandal and still....he's propped up by the media.
Dunno about that..
after last night.. seems Hillary smoked him.
~Live life to its fullest, with an open heart, open arms and most important... an open mind~
What is going on here?
Yesterday the movement people on this forum are supposed to be part of had a great success with Ron Paul winning 16% of the polls in PA. McCain didn't manage to win 3 out of 4 votes though he is supossed to be practical the GOP nominee. All over the country Paulists become delegates for the GOP. Many good things to discuss.
But since hours a topic explicitly called "Hot Topic" containing serious allegations against a distinguished member of this forum is looming permanently in the top ranks. There are four "names" who bring forward these allegations: NoToverYeT, Laurie, justjenmi and Melissa NV
With their permanent posting they keep the topic in the high ranks if no other one is challenging them for discussion. Sorry, I find this fishy.
The allegations of some substance they put forward from what I gathered are that his radio project is simply about collecting money and that he exposed a donor's full name who mockingly donated a tiny sum of money. No nice action, but definetly on both sides. Regarding his radio project one should be fair to leave some time to get it really started. Regarding the money aspect: does anyone think you can make a fortune or even a living out of it? And even if, no one is obliged to make donations.
The more serious allegations are SGP "creates fiasco" or even is about to "destroy the GOP" and "Ron Pauls 30+ years of work" (wow), has created Steve Parents delegates (what's that?) v. Ron Paul delegates. Again whats that? That are very broad allegations, that lack IMHO any substance.
As far as I have seen SGP was the one who brought up the idea of concentrating in the delegate process and who brought a lot of expertise in it. Sorry, I didn't follow up, if all details were sound since as a foreigner I am not involved in it. But the broad look of it is sound. You are using a legal process, nothing wrong in it. And success gives him and the dedicated Ron Paul supporters who do get involved in the process right. And this is real THREAT for the establishment, esp if McCain drops out, which is rather likely.
And there I really start towonder about the motivation of NoToverYeT, Laurie, justjenmi and Melissa NV. First I thought it was envy and a perhabs understandable discomfort about SGP sometimes overbearing manner. Well, the Lyman thread was something I didn't like too and soemehow it now comes back, sorry to say that, Mr.Parent. But sommehow these four seem to be more worried about the "SGP"-delegates, whom they arrogantly named "´sheeple" won't behave in St.Paul. Hang on, that's up to them and I am pretty sure the good doctor will say something about it in the right time and they will listen to him.
Actually I wonder if NoToverYeT, Laurie, justjenmi and Melissa NV are disinformats. I think, if they expect from SGP, who choses for legitimate reasons (even less then most of us, like me) to stay anonymous to tell them openly on this forums his whereabouts, his professional backround and even the legitimacy of his title, they should swiftly open their identity too!
Sorry, I hope you believe I am just writing this as a foreign friend of the rEVOLution who couldn't sit on the fence any more watching something seriously wrong.
Dr. Paul cured my apathy
Ron Paul was right
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Colognepaulist,
I'm with you on this one. Let's not lose sight of why we're here: to support Ron Paul & our Revolution. As far as I can tell, all SGP has REALLY done is help people understand the delegate process. Thanks Steve.
Obama = O.ne B.ig A.ss M.istake A.merica
You give me too much credit.
You give me too much credit. I'm hardly a disinformant. I defy you to find a single prior posting of mine where I have disparaged Ron Paul or his campaign. Not gonna find it. As a matter of fact, one of the things you WILL find is a post from me wishing SGP good luck with his radio site (written before I heard this information). My "motivation" if you will, is this: Since day one on this site, Steve (Gerard) Parent has passed himself as somebody with a special level of expertise, education, and business acumen. I don't care if it's SGP or MelissaWV or justjenmi who is making the request for money ... if you're going to do that you HAVE to be able to provide some reason for people to believe that they can TRUST you and TRUST where their hard-earned money is going to. There have been enough concerns raised about the legitimacy of this man both on here and on RP Forums that it SHOULD cause people to ask questions! But alas! When people ask an innocent question, SGP immediately goes into defense mode and attacks said individual. Frankly, I find it hard to believe that after all we have learned about not blindly following things (the MSM, for instance) or how it's important to do our own due diligence that people are so willing to do whatever this man asks of them, both financially and otherwise. So no, I'm not a troll, or a disinfo agent, or any other name you want to level at me. Whether you believe it or not I am a faithful and total Ron Paul supporter
Note that I have not commented on the SGP delegate aspect of this. In all honesty, I have no idea which "side" is putting forth the most accurate information. I missed my own chance to become a delegate as I was not one of the ones "chosen" here in my state (which even SGP acknowledged but then attempted to throw in my face several weeks later as apparently that fact makes me "less" of a supporter). So, I haven't been following the delegate threads as closely as I would otherwise have.
Envy of SGP? Hardly! I pity the person who envies somebody who plays fast and loose with the truth.
You want some transparency? My screen-name is also my Yahoo ID. Feel free to email me with any questions, as I have had my say on this issue and will not post on this thread any more.
Perhaps I owe you an apology, justjenmi
I know you are posting on this forum may be longer then I do. I know as well you had this row with him, and he didn't behave good on this occasion. But I was so appalled with the ferocity of your attacks that I thought you were ganging up on him too. Please accept my apology.
Nevertheless I really wonder what it is good for to keep up a thread that is just about smearing another user of this forum, especially when there are really more important topics.That he somehow behaved the same with Trevor Lyman is no reason.
In my opinion SGP has gained lasting merits by focusing people on the delegate process. You just start to bring in the harvest. I got the impression many people who attack SGP really want to attack this focus, some because they may honestly think its a betrayal (what I think is ridiculous, you are just playing after the book, the others are free to do the same) and others becauce they simply don't want RP to win. That are of course no supporters and I really do wonder about NoToverYeT, Melissa NV and Laurie.
I am just posting this becauce I very much wish RP to have successs and I am afraid some people (not sheeple) are going astray. Focus on the positive. If you don't like the ways of SGP just stay away and follow your own path.
Peace!
Dr. Paul cured my apathy
Ron Paul was right
Food For Thought
First of all, my name is not "Melissa NV". Seriously. It's not. No joke.
Second, SGP is "just educating" according to people, right? Shouldn't he be overjoyed that people are providing further information on the delegate process? I have started precisely one post, ever, on Daily Paul. It wasn't about Dr. Steve. I answer when someone brings up what I assume to be my name, and oddly enough it's nearly always in a slander or a misconstruction of what I've said. I *am* following my own path. I also happen to have a view of the constant smearing (note: smear would imply something untrue or otherwise misconstrued, not merely statements of fact) of my person by several people here and on other forums. I don't name-call, I merely present the facts. It seems people have trouble with facts!
Third, consider the following statements: "We do not want to divide our group, we should forgive each other and move on together or not at all" "If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. We don't need your kind associated with our efforts." "Trust me... I will reveal my sources later" "So and so should not be listened to because they are ignorant and defeatist (no back up quotes provided)" "The ends justify the means". I've heard these sorts of things from the Dems, the Reps... I never thought I'd hear it from Ron Paul supporters.
Fourth, seriously. It's MelissaWV. West Virginia. I worked very hard in this state. Nevada would be great too, though :) Ron Paul did well there! I would like Dr. Paul --- and his message --- to have great success as well, and those people you are referring to who might be going astray, might be wasting *VALUABLE* time listening to someone's interpretation of the rules instead of reading them themselves, and getting out there and getting the work done. That's a genuine concern. I'm sorry if those of us who see what walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... as a duck... are coming across as "ganging up". Again, don't mention my name, and I don't appear 99% of the time! The other 1% I have a valid comment to make on a story (for instance, the polygamy story out of TX).
Now that we've got that settled, can we just go out for coffee or something?
Melissa WV, thank you very much for your reply
In spite of your last sentence I am not so sure if everything is settled so I allow myself to answer shortly (actually I nearly answered to your comment a little below but this post was deleted due to some computer problem)
To begin, take my apology for suspecting you to be a disinformant. From what you wrote in these two comments I am assured you are not. And also for misprinting your name. I didn't transfer you to Nevada on purpose. No insult intended, seriously. Sorry, if you had some odd experiences in this direction.
Further, no I haven't studied every information given by SGP thoroughly, but what I have seen during the last weeks gave me a general impression that it was helpful, though the form he presented it may not be everyones biskuit.Sorry, I haven't seen yet a smoking gun he gave seriously wrong information and esp. on purpose.
My main point: I have got the impression there is a little bit much posting about SGP on this forum recently. And you cannot only blame only him for it. Peace!
And last not least: the statements you posted under "third" I do very much aprecciate. I am convinced we are working in the same direction each in his or her parts. Perhaps I missed this aspect on this thread. I always think: Someone supporting Ron Paul cannot be a really bad person.
Dr. Paul heilte meine Apathie
BTW While I am posting this I listen to "Country Road....West Virginia" by John Denver. Beautyful parts. If RP wins the presidency I will seriously consider immigrating (legally of course)
Ron Paul was right
Colognepaulist .. thank you
Colognepaulist .. thank you so much! I sincerely appreciate your comments - they are obviously heart-felt. I am breaking my own promise not to bump this thread any longer by posting, but I just wanted to take the time to thank you for your thoughtful post.
In all honesty - I did not realize that my posts could be construed as being written with ferocity! If that is how they come across, I need to moderate myself better. Sometimes I have difficulty doing that when something upsets me or angers me, admittedly. It's not my intent to "gang up" on anybody. There have been a few of us who happened to have similar questions about this issue, so I can see how it might appear that way, but as far as I know, we are just a couple of people who have had similar questions - nothing more, nothing less. Anyway, thanks again for taking the time :)
No apology is necessary.
I'm sure
... that you viewed everything thoroughly and realize that there are problems with some of his information. If I am a disinformant, please post something untrue or misleading which I have said. I also hope you realize your post (and its obvious request to be posted on by MelissaNV, whoever this is) is also going to continue bumping the thread you seemed to be so against. I have posted on here to correct disinformation, not spread it. I come on when someone tells me more lies are being spread about me. It's a character flaw :) My information is already out there, actually, as I already stated. I was a delegate to the WV State GOP Convention for Mon County. A quick Google search will confirm this. We had great success in our state even before Dr. Steve was on the scene. How on earth could such a thing have happened?!
His right to remain anonymous is perfectly legitimate. I wonder if his donors expect the same right? Wait no one asked before maliciously and spitefully putting their names out there. Go figure? Leave me and my evil twin from Nevada out of it kthxbai :)
Read the *questions* in the repost
REPOST: BEFORE ANYONE BUYS IN TO THE [SNIP] COMPANY YOU NEED TO READ THIS FIRST PLEASE:
www.dailypaul.com/node/46696
Since Steve Parent expressed his concerns about that business, I'm sure he won't mind addressing the same concerns about his own (whatever-business/hobby/?).
Thank you for answering my post, laurie
I have already said, I didn't like SGP's picking on Trevor Lyman. But that is not a reason to start personal accusations in the same way. This forum, I thought, is to promote Ron Paul's nomination and election, not to persecute on another. There are really important things to do for the good cause. I accept you have an argument to say that a rebellion of RP supporters in the first round of the nomination would harm the cause. But as far as I have seen neither SGP nor anyone else here has seriously promoted to break the GOP rules.
Dr. Paul cured my apathy
Ron Paul was right
Now I will need to find my links to posted evidence
Do *you* agree that a rebellion of RP supporters in the first round of the nomination could be extremely destructive to the RP movement?
If not, your mind is already made up and taking the time to locate my saved evidence, including Steve Parent's absolute refusal to state that he is *discouraging* such behavior, is a total waste of my time.
It's amazing how the "family rule" to not discuss politics or religion is true in relation to Steve Parent, as well!
It should be extremely obvious that there are two totally separate "camps" (on RPF, as well), as a direct result of Steve Parent. You list those against him, do you want us to list those in favor of him?
Do you think that Steve Parent's camp should be able to harm the other camp and RP himself, as a result of their actions?
If you knew from a mechanic that the airplane being loaded had mechanical problems, would you try to stop the loading? Or would you allow it, because the person who had made the mistake was a friend?
Rebellion in the first round?
Laurie, first I think I have to apologize to you as well suspecting you a disinformant. From your reflection in this comment (though I disagree with them) I see you are thinking for the campaign. As you may guess from my name I am as a foreigner out of the delegate process. Nevertheless I got the impression SGP gave the grassroad campaign a sensible focus with his for sure sometimes obnoxious "threads" to concentrate on the delegate process. On his informations I haven't seen any smoking gun that they were seriously wrong and especially wrong on purpose. Another point is I haven't seen him calling bound delegates to rebell in the first round: Maybe I have missed this and of course you can argue its not a reasonable tactic. What I have gathered is that he proposed RP delegates who may get the majority in their state conventon to unbind the delegates. If this is legally possible (what I can imagine) that is simply playing after the book. In the end we want RP to win and it seeing the unfair treatment he has received why should he be more fair then fair. But of course one may argue about that.
So you may wonder why I somehow ferociously intervened here. But I really thought this thread to be highly dissentive. Especially I do not see there is a SGP delegate camp and another camp. I see there are some people who are very fiercely against him personally and some for whom he is the second heroe of the rEVOLution. The majority on DP like me I guess is rather indifferent on this and I suppose its the same grouping within the delegates. I mean it is a question of tactics not of convictions. It is simply something one has to discuss before the convention and I guess RP will have some say in it. Perhabs McCain will not be in the race any more. A lot of things may happen until then.
I simply wish RP to be as much sucessful as possible, so his message will better spread in my country to.
So I am open for your information but also finished for tonight!
Dr. Paul cured my apathy
Ron Paul was right