Have you recieved your Real ID yet?
Submitted by oruval on Wed, 04/23/2008 - 14:02A Mssg from Restore The Republic:
There is an issue that needs clarification...
THE REAL ID ACT IS ALREADY LAW! The bottom line is that whether
you like it or not, compliance or an extension to come into
compliance is MANDATORY, as of May 11th by your state or you will
lose your right to travel and be refused entrance into federal
facilities.
If you don't like the name "Real Id", let's just change it.
How
about "Enhanced Driver's License" or "Secure Social Security
Card"?
These tools for control can be repackaged as many times as needed
until all of America will unknowingly accept them.
We know this is, without doubt, an unconstitutional, treasonous
action and was passed without the consent of the people.
We have
drawn a line in the sand but our politicians are ignoring us.
Why..? Because they believe that our numbers are so few and that
we have exchanged our freedom for a bag of chips, a lotto ticket
and American Idol.
IS THIS TRUE..? DID I MISS THE POINT OF THIS WHOLE MOVEMENT... THIS
REVOLUTION..?
We have but one way to stop the REAL ID and that is to inform
Washington that WE WILL NOT STAND for this any longer.
That
we will NOT lie down and in the blood of the founders and
sacrifice our posterity for the benevolent blessing of a fascist
government that DOES NOT represent the people from whom it was
created.
We are sending a copy of the Republic Magazine which exposes the
REAL ID for what it truly is, to every elected official in
Washington and we need your help to do it.
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They WILL hear us! There will be no ignoring of the people on
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We need you to support this effort to stop this
national ID and database from EVER being implemented.
Many in
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I heard that 50 and up in age do not have
to get a Real ID . Is this true? Does anyone know? And will my teenage children have to get one in order to ge t a driver's license? Does anyone know this?
I'm not sure about the exact age,
but the reason I read was that this segment of the population was least likely to "engage in terrorist activities." Whatever the hell that means.
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i have a passport
renewed that baby in 06. Im told it contains all of the info that a RealID is designed to access- so I wont be required to get one. This is kinda how I know that its not the "mark of the beast" which is a mark that demands that i accept it my forehead (by agreeing intellectually to some sort of deception) or in my right hand (metaphorically as a handshake whereby I agree to comply with this deception even though I may not agree with it intellectually - but accept anyway out of convenience or to avoid the repercussions of not accepting). Had I thought...hmm- I cant go to Belize unless I accept the mark of the beast & I really want to go so Ill accept- God may take issue with my decision to put Belize above the mark of the beast. But it was was never a decision that I was asked to make. Which leads me to beleive that such a mark involves a different cooperation. Last I checked- it isnt a sin to fly to Belize, nor is it a sin (though prolly not wise) to carry around a card with all of your personal info. So I think God is ok with it.. sin-wise. That is to say he probably agrees its a blatant attack on our privacy-but to have one isnt sin-to TELL you as the govt you need to, probably IS sin. Im against RealID. I think God is too-and I intend to do what I can to abolish it, but I dont think he'll flick anyone into hell over it. The mark has to be the beleif in (again forehead-seat of knowledge), or the cooperation (right hand) of something that is against God. Now if the govt were to say "all financial transactions will now be made through your ID card- and in order to get an ID card you must kneel before them and acknowledge that the Olsen twins,collectively,are the one true God" and you did that- because you beleive that in your head that they really are, or you agreed to acknowledge that
(by a gesture of cooperation in order to receive your ID card so that you COULD buy and sell) BY receiving the card which represents that acknowledgement THEN we'd have a problem. But as it stands now- there is nothing morally wrong in getting a fancy drivers license- so soul-wise we're okay- personal liberty -wise though its all kinds of fu*ked up. Its creepy tho how close they can get to turning it into the mark of the beast. Alot of people like the Olsen twins. You know who I hate? Bob Saget- and those dumb voices he makes for the Americas Funniest Home Videos show.
What information
is exactly on the Real ID?
Wikipedia
The REAL ID Act of 2005 is U.S. federal law which imposes certain security, authentication and issuance procedures standards for the state driver's licenses and state ID cards, in order for them to be accepted by the federal government for "official purposes", as defined by the Secretary of Homeland Security. Currently, the Secretary of Homeland Security has defined "official purposes" as presenting state driver's licenses and id cards for boarding commercially operated airline flights, entering federal buildings and nuclear power plants. The Act is a rider to an act of the United States Congress titled Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act for Defense, the Global War on Terror, and Tsunami Relief, 2005.
The Real ID Act implements the following:
Establishing new national standards for state-issued driver licenses and non-driver identification cards;
Waiving laws that interfere with construction of physical barriers at the borders;
Updating and tightening the laws on application for asylum and deportation of aliens for terrorist activity;
Introducing rules covering "delivery bonds" (rather like bail bonds but for aliens who have been released pending hearings);
Funding some reports and pilot projects related to border security; and
Changing visa limits for temporary workers, nurses, and Australian citizens.
As of April 2, 2008, all 50 states have either applied for extensions of the original May 11, 2008 compliance deadline or received unsolicited extensions, meaning that the REAL ID Act will not become an issue at federal facilities and airports until December 31, 2009.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REAL_ID_Act
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Besides this it is widely held in Christianity to be the Number of the Beast. If you take the Number of the Beast you are damned for all eternity. Do your research!
"The body is but a vessel for the soul,
A puppet which bends to the soul's tyranny.
And lo, the body is not eternal,
For it must feed on the flesh of others,
Lest it return to the dust whence it came.
Therefore the soul deceives and despises."
Please explain.
I don't see where this could be the Number of the Beast, could you please explain this using the Bible as your reference. Thanks.
Watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuBo4E77ZXo
"The body is but a vessel for the soul,
A puppet which bends to the soul's tyranny.
And lo, the body is not eternal,
For it must feed on the flesh of others,
Lest it return to the dust whence it came.
Therefore the soul deceives and despises."
I will attempt to answer your question
The Real ID isn't the Mark of the Beast, but it is setting up the system that the One World Government Leader (aka Antichrist) will use to implement the Mark of the Beast. All the info that is on your driver's license + biometric identification will be stored in a national database. You won't be able to open a bank account or hold a job if you are not in this database. So if your bank card merges with your driver license and you swipe it to make purchases your info goes into the store's database. Our government has agreed to share our information with other countries, an international database. Once they have this info, the next step is to require everyone to get a microchip under the skin for tracking purposes. I don't claim to be an expert, but I have read tons of articles on this. I hope this gives you some insight on the Real ID.
Revelation 13:16-17 And he causeth all both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the number of his name.
How much buying and selling can you do without the Real ID?
Hmm
I can agree on the setting up of the system that is to come, but this system has been in the works, and we the people have been in training for a long time already.
But to say that Real ID IS the Mark of the Beast without any Biblical background is completely false, and that is what I was going for. If you believe the Bible to be true, then you can read the passage you chose and see that Real ID is obviously not the Mark. j
I'm not splitting hairs or causing trouble, but there are to many people out there calling this and that the actual Mark of the Beast. It doesn't do anyone any good to cry wolf at everything. The best thing to do is educate people as to what your driving at with your response. My children know that there will be absolutely no Real ID in our household, and if it takes death or moving to Montana..We're driving our happy butts to Montana where the Sheriff still outranks all federal officials.
BTW your question. "How much buying and selling can you do without the Real ID?"
My answer. All the buying and selling that I do now, only not in airports or federal buildings. Guess I can still drive, right.
So the search goes on for the Mark of the Beast.
I was agreeing wiht you.
I was agreeing with you. I didn't say the Real ID is the Mark of the Beast. I said it was setting up the system, to which you agreed.
You can't do much buying and selling if you are not in the national database. Our government is trying to pass a law that says your employer will have 3 years to fire you if you are not in the database. Also banks will check the database to see if you are there. Not much buying and selling without a job. You can live without a bank account until it becomes a cashless society. As far as driving, yeah you can drive until you reach a checkpoint and your current license is not valid, then the cops do whatever they do to people without a valid license..
I don't know what kind of Biblical proof you want. The Bible is not going to say the Real Id is the Mark of the Beast. It does describe it to you in enough detail that you will be able to recognize it when it gets here.
It's all in how you interpret
There is a number within the chip. So you cannot discount the chip not being the Mark. Are you willing to chance eternal damnation if you are a Christian? Not I. All I'm saying is to do your own research about it.
"The body is but a vessel for the soul,
A puppet which bends to the soul's tyranny.
And lo, the body is not eternal,
For it must feed on the flesh of others,
Lest it return to the dust whence it came.
Therefore the soul deceives and despises."
Never
Never will I accept any chip no matter what they call it....
"The body is but a vessel for the soul,
A puppet which bends to the soul's tyranny.
And lo, the body is not eternal,
For it must feed on the flesh of others,
Lest it return to the dust whence it came.
Therefore the soul deceives and despises."