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Bush's New World Order Speech (see Masonic hand signal)

Genghis got me on this Masonic hand signal watching, so I thought I'd bring this one up.

Look at the devil's horns hand signal Bush flashes at 00:47, just as he says the phrase "New World Order". Too perfect. Is this black magick happening in front of our eyes in order to hypnotize the audience?


Put it on big screen. I've seen some other camera angles where this is clearer, but I can't find the vids right now.

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New World Order

will be made up of 10 kingdoms; the NAU is one of those ten.

(EU, NAU, Africa, Australia & New Zealand, (should have taken notes, cannot remember the rest).

When we have The New World Order, then Bible prophesy states the return of Christ to bring peace to the world for 1000 years for those who are prepared.

We should prepare our hearts and minds, accept Jesus, lead our best lives, and be ready, as this will happen in OUR lifetime.

The National ID will be Global ID by the year 2017 and when they try to implant "the mark of the beast", refuse at any and all costs.

God is in control!

I recommend we lead our best lives and no longer dwell on things which are out of our control.

I've always accepted Jesus

I've always accepted Jesus just not the religion built around him.



It's spelt with one "u".

Sort of like the difference between champ and chump. It's you.

"Walls are stronger than the men that defend them."

Ghengis Khan

"Walls are stronger than the men that defend them."

Ghengis Khan

Like father like son

Look at this photo of GWB on th 9/11/07 anniversary ceremony.


Ahh Lisa IRREVERENCE is one

Ahh Lisa IRREVERENCE is one of the best ways to crumble walls I salute you!

He makes that sign a lot

they also LOVE to mark the anniversaries of these events. It's all about ceremony.

More evil signs.



Lisa C.


Ron Paul "Sign Wave Across the USA" -- November 5th!

That is not

a "Masonic" sign or symbolism. While there is no doubt a controlling elite and they do have an agenda, Free Masons are, for the most part, neither partner to nor participants of that agenda. There may be individuals who are Free Masons, that are also part of this elite, but there are as many divisions to the Free Masons as there are for any other fraternal or philosophical organization. The true Free Mason is a person dedicated to pursuit of the truth as symbolized by the search for the "lost word" and has far more in common with the "mystery" school of Pythagoras than with any NWO conspiracy. I quote from the prayer given at the initiation of a person as an entered apprentice - "Vouch safe thine aid all mighty Father of the Universe to, this, our present convention and grant that this candidate for the mysteries of Free Masonry may dedicate and devote his life to thy service." Any person that would commit himself in such a manner is a person you would have no need to have alarm about. It also serves no purpose to point accusing fingers where there is no guilt.

They are a Lodge of Cowards

Do not be deceived. They are socialists (secret society). They are wolves in wolves clothing and wolves in sheep's clothing, but they are still cowardly wolves that must be part of their secret pack. If they had any backbone, they would expose the crime they are involved.

"Walls are stronger than the men that defend them."

Ghengis Khan

"Walls are stronger than the men that defend them."

Ghengis Khan

Khan is correct......

It is an inner circle of evil, surrounded by an outer circle of unknowing participants, many times doing good deeds.
The higher the level of masonry you achieve,the more you learn of the true agenda. That's why it is secret until then.

The Second Amendment
The ORIGINAL Homeland Security

Excuse me

Look, we've been at this whole "needing logic to back your arguments" too many times to count. Saying socialists and then putting (secret society) doesn't make all secret societies socialist. I'll use the Sons of Liberty and the Fraternal Order of Freemasons as my examples for extreme supporters of individual liberty. Considering the revolutionary war was fought primarily by Freemasons on our side in command, I'd say the whole idea of Freemasons preaching socialism is absurd. Never mind the fact that Freemasonry is often criticized for its extreme focus on the individual.

Saying, "If they had any backbone, they would expose the crime they are involved." Is about as blatant a logical fallacy as I've ever seen. Saying, "if they were moral people, they would admit their immoral behavior to which they deny." Runs in more circles than the Kentucky Derby. What crime are you speaking of? What evidence have you brought to the table. Vaguely spoken collusions of your own imagining have no place in honorable society, and your demagoguery is of the worst sort. You should sign your posts Ellsworth Toohey, not Ghengis Khan.

Eric Hoffer

That Hand Signal is Not the Hypnotic Gesture

When I see that one, it is easy for me to translate. "I am a goat. You are sheep. Prepare yourselves."

"Walls are stronger than the men that defend them."

Ghengis Khan

"Walls are stronger than the men that defend them."

Ghengis Khan


but it is clearly the devil's horns

I would think the horns on his head

Are more significant to that fact. The "hook 'em" horns may be related, but it is not the one they use in EVERY speech to subliminally control the (please forgive ->) sheeple.

"Walls are stronger than the men that defend them."

Ghengis Khan

"Walls are stronger than the men that defend them."

Ghengis Khan

Don't you think the timing is significant?

that he flashes that sign AT THE EXACT SAME TIME he says "New World Order"?

Oh, I'm Sure it Has Meaning

But to me, the only meaning is - I cannot trust a coward.

"Walls are stronger than the men that defend them."

Ghengis Khan

"Walls are stronger than the men that defend them."

Ghengis Khan


You seemed alright in the beginning, but now you are acting like a total NWO toady. I see from your posts you now go around denouncing anyone who questions 9/11, the health care system, the elite power structure, hand signals, or your precious Masons. All those secret societies are intertwined and just because you change the sign on the door, doesn't mean the agenda has changed.


And when you can't beat them... reduce to name calling!

I don't care how I'm acting, when I see people posting obviously flagrant fallacy, I feel this itch to bash them over the head. Lacking the blunt club of vague coincidence you seem the have such a monopoly on, I have to limit myself to pointing out the obvious inaccuracies and fallacies you're posting.

Do I denounce people who question 911? Absolutely not. I denounce the people who think they have all the answers, or who are confident in their belief that it ABSOLUTELY was the fault of a government conspiracy maybe/maybe not involving the masons... or the illuminati.... or trilateral commission... or the CFR... or the Jesuits... or the Queen of England... or the royal mounted police... or space aliens... or George Bush... or a bunch of Saudis... or Bin Laden... or Donald Rumsfeld... or anything else. My argument is with all of those who would tarnish the good name of Ron Paul with their certainty of all these sinister plots. So you suspect? Good! Do I think it should be re-investigated by a group with nothing to gain either way? Absolutely. Our government should never be afraid of an investigation if they've got nothing to hide. Do I think they'll find anything? No. I think that a bunch of pissed off Muslims got led around the nose by a guy who hates us being in his holy land and likes to fancy himself a leader came at us where we didn't expect it, when we didn't expect it. Were we warned? Sure, but I think our huge government bureaucracy got so far in the way that we weren't able to act. Like Foreman in the ring with Ali, we got our ass knocked out. We can't move fast enough. That's why I support Ron Paul, getting rid of all the needless crap in government.

We've got so many layers of BS people in the government looking to lie cheat and steal their way to a better job, it's no WONDER we weren't able to stop them efficiently.

And what is this about the health care system you're whining about? I think the government should get their asses out of the health care system. There's a reason our medical system was a wonder of the civilized world when the government stayed out.

Elite power structure? Yawn. When you can give me a firm outline instead of vague coincidences and a bunch of acronyms, you'll have an argument. Are there powerful groups with goals? Absolutely, but this crappy idea that they're just "evil" or that they're all powerful is absurd. You're AGAIN claiming that they're brilliant and ruthless enough to take over the world, but STUPID enough that they need to make gang signs on TV and expect no one to notice. Even with the internet. PLEASE try refuting why that's necessary. You never responded to my post before, and I have yet to see anything except you claiming I disagree on your holy writ.

Since when are "hand signals" such a holy grail of reasoning? You mention me mocking it like it has any validity logically whatsoever. I've already pointed out why such ideas are absurd, you just can't answer them so you try and associate me with the NWO.

You don't know the agenda of these secret societies you address, yet you claim such intimate knowledge. Hope you're not attending meetings on your off time you Cyber Sherlock you.

You can't just lump all the "secret societies" under one umbrella and whisper, "I'm right... I know I'm right... no one understands me..." to yourself huddled in the corner in an effort to avoid confronting the harsh reality that you have no solid facts and that you're relying on vague speculation and shadowy websites with dark sounding music.

And then the, "your precious Masons" line. Again, George Washington was a Freemason, as were almost all of the commanding officers in the Revolutionary War. The Freemasons believed so strongly in our nation's freedom that they came from around the world to fight for it. I can't hate them for that. I know Masons. I'm assuming you don't, or if you do, you're so convoluted that you believe it's only "Masons" as a group, and not individuals that are steering us towards globalism. You know, Masons, the group that believed so strongly in individual responsibility that they sacrificed their lives to help a country establish it's independence, were always HUGE fans of globalism and empires.

You're assuming that everything in the world you don't know about is sinister and out to get you. As far as I'm concerned, that's bordering on a personality disorder. I'd say it's more of a way of you attempting to explain a harsh and scary world through your vague theories. Maybe it helps you sleep at night to assume you know what's going on behind closed doors. I'm not really sure, but lashing out at me and trying to claim I'm an enemy of Ron Paul's will get you absolutely nowhere.

Eric Hoffer

I Have a Contact Inside the Lodge of Cowards

I know what is going on.

Don't fool yourself. Read my post above.

"Walls are stronger than the men that defend them."

Ghengis Khan

"Walls are stronger than the men that defend them."

Ghengis Khan

I'm sure you do

And I have a contact inside your house, who claims that you spend hours a day eating pork rinds and fancying about with male children.

How is your argument any more valid than mine?

Otherwise, prove your contact. You can't, most likely under the premise that revealing your source would invalidate it.

We can all spin tall tales Khan, but like Clifford Irving, you'll get caught fabricating Howard Hughes' autobiography eventually. You can't keep up the lies forever, and eventually the story gets to complex for you to remember all the details.

Eric Hoffer

I'm sure it is.

It's quite obvious. Just look at how thrilled the American public was with THAT idea.

I've gotta say, it's surely black magick. I can see it from here. It's even coming through my computer screen... making me want... to drink myself into oblivion and hope to God that people who believe that there's a magical Masonic hand sign which hypnotizes the world that everyone is susceptible to except themselves or if they notice it are the exception and not the rule in terms of logistical ability.

For cripes sake, Bush isn't even a Mason.

Eric Hoffer

Skull and Bones is a high-level Masonic order.

Well, quite the coincidence to be showing THAT hand signal at THAT time saying THAT phrase.

Does the DATE seem to be a coincidence too?

How many of us only heard any of this NWO stuff from being on the internet? No one would even be looking for something like that back then or even recognizing it. And..it's not like he flashed it where people could see it very well.

It doesn't matter if YOU don't believe in that stuff..because THEY do.

Skull and Bones

Has nothing to do with Masons. Try again.

Skull and Bones is a Yale Fraternity, and usually is associated with the CIA. Get your conspiracies straight. Point being that many CIA members high up were also Skull and Bones.

Freemasons are an entirely other group which has nothing to do with college fraternities.

If you're going to spout nonsense, at least spout nonsense that everyone else is spouting so you blend in.

What you're proposing is that he flashed a magic symbol to hypnotize people. Yet, he didn't flash it very well... and it's hard to see... and maybe he was just picking his nose and the camera was fuzzy.

Look, certain hand signs can represent things like, "togetherness" "toughness" "innocence" "anger" This is basic speech preparation and EVERYONE who is on television doing ANY kind of persuasion will make similar hand gestures. Number one because we see other people do them and so we repeat them, number two being that people are taught to gesticulate when speaking to show emotion, otherwise no one pays attention.

And as to your last point, do you REALLY think the members of the "New World Order" would need to flash gang signs on national television?! Do you remember what happened to that NBA player who flashed half of the "Blood" sign and got fined 20 grand?

I don't understand it, you think these people are smart enough to slowly but surely take over the world, and yet dumb enough to make hand signs on recorded television on the off chance that someone in their group would notice.

Don't you think these people have email? Maybe phones? Memos? Don't you think they might RECOGNIZE THEIR OWN FRIGGIN MEMBER WHEN HE'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES? Do you think they'd be that out of the loop?

"Crap, George is a member of our Elite Group as well? Whodda thunk it Helga! George is a member!! I didn't even know till he flashed them magickal hand signs!"

Get real here. Seriously. You can't argue that these people are insidious brilliant and ruthless AND stupid and bumbling and disorganized.

Pick one.

Eric Hoffer

The Skull and Bones Signal is A Bit Different

They protrude their index finger such as King George is doing in this great video with his right hand.


"Walls are stronger than the men that defend them."

Ghengis Khan

"Walls are stronger than the men that defend them."

Ghengis Khan

It appears that GHWB was

It appears that GHWB was making hand signs prior to 00:47 and here's a question for Kahn.... is Hart holding his hands in a constant sign as he is talking at the end of this vid? It feels like he is emphasizing what he is saying because it is right after 9/11