Nevada Delegate Dennis Grover speaks out tomorrow LIVE 4pm eastern

Dr. Steve Parent

SGP

Submitted by jg on Tue, 05/13/2008 - 14:18.

Plans are in action right now for NV.

The person who calls himself "Dr. Steve Parent" (as there is no Steve Parent or Dr. Steve Parent) has absolultely no part in them and if he attempts to interfere, he will be shut out completely.

Steve Parent is not talking to anyone the campaign and grassroots leadership is not talking to.

Please do not let him fool you too.

Jeff why did you not move to

Submitted by SGP on Tue, 05/13/2008 - 14:32.

Jeff why did you not move to adjourn the convention instead of leaving it open? You are only in recess do none of you understand how dangerous that is?

Why do you people not know these things?

Mike Weber was not there to help you or he would have closed the meeting and many of you praised him claiming he was helping and if you knew anything about Parliamentary procedure you would have known this.

Jeff people asked for my help because they were not getting the help they needed.

The campaign is not talking to these people according to them and they are looking for help. I would love to have help so help them instead of political pandering.

Every meetup i talk to every day claims they are all fighting with themselves and THIS IS A PROBLEM, am i one of very few that see this?

Why would you send out an email telling people that if it was an inconvenience to come back to the convention on Sunday to try and reconvene it was ok and for them not to worry about it?

Why do you send out emails telling people it will cost at least $5000 per person to go to the national convention?

Dr. Steve Parent

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Dr. Steve Parent

"Steve" or whoever you are....

Submitted by jg on Tue, 05/13/2008 - 14:36.

If you cared so much you would have been there.

You were not there.

Therefore, you only care about bi*ching online and did not actually care about the event itself except afterward.

You are a sunshine patriot who seeks praise and avoids criticism like a 5 year old child.

You are a coward who will not even reveal who you are.

Let posterity know that you were NOT my countryman.

Many know who i am Jeff and

Submitted by SGP on Tue, 05/13/2008 - 14:40.

Many know who i am Jeff and only a select few do not.

Many of the people that are speaking to me from NV made it clear that they asked you to work with me and you have refused.

If you do not want to resolve this i can not control that but you can.

I love the Steve is a ghost claim and that i do not exist.

I am a bot and am nothing but a figment of your imagination?

Please answer my questions above post that were addressed to you.

Dr. Steve Parent

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Dr. Steve Parent

Whatever, "Steve"

Submitted by jg on Tue, 05/13/2008 - 14:42.

I put my personal cell phone number on every email I send out because I am not a coward nor ashamed of my actions.

You, on the other hand are.

There is no Steve PArent or Dr. Steve Parent. It is your pseudonym, the pseudonym of a coward.

Shall I look up the exact quote from Pat. Henry was it "Let posterity forget that you were my countryman."

I think so. Apply it.

Also remember, that just because you (a coward who uses a false name) make wild accusations does not mean I owe you an explanation. I owe you nothing. What are you a John McCain collectivist? Apparently so.

In fact you owe ME an explanation as to why you are a hiding coward who makes wild unfounded accusations.

And you are?

Submitted by kedinger on Tue, 05/13/2008 - 14:14.

Who are you to plan anything for Nevada?

I'm sure your heart's in the right place, but I cannot see how a factional group of RP supporters can plan anything that will be helpful in our situation. I appreciate everyone who has offered their voices to help us get a fair reconvening of the Convention, but it's a very delicate situation and shouting hordes with potentially unrealistic demands are only going to push the balance further from our favor.

The reason we had the success we did have in NV is because we were calm and organized and kept our eyes on designated targets. Breaking up now into groups that want to do different things to try to correct the situation will only weaken us and lead to our defeat.

I am no only educated in

Submitted by SGP on Tue, 05/13/2008 - 14:36.

I am no only educated in Parliamentary procedure and the delegate process and this is where i have been helpful to many.

Read my comment to Jeff above and you will see why people are asking for my help.

I do agree with you on splitting into groups and have been saying this for months : IF WE DO NOT COME TOGETHER AND FORGET THIS MEANINGLESS BICKERING AND WORK AS A TEAM WE WILL SURELY FAIL.

Dr. Steve Parent

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Dr. Steve Parent

I don't know you from Adam

Submitted by kedinger on Tue, 05/13/2008 - 14:51.

I haven't seen you working in my state. You don't have a position with the campaign. I've seen you make negative statements regarding members of the campaign. I've seen you pimp your radio show and websites.

Why should I believe that you and your plan are going to rescue Nevada's Convention? All these people in Nevada you've been helping, I haven't met a one. You speak a good line about working as a team, but I only see you willing to work as a team if you're the coach.

If your credentials as a political mind are legitimate, why aren't you involved with the campaign? Don't give me some line about the campaign being corrupt - I've seen no evidence of that and my contacts with people who are in or work with the campaign are nationwide. As I've said, I'm sure your heart's in the right place, I just can't see how you think what you're doing is helpful.

My help is only in educating

Submitted by SGP on Tue, 05/13/2008 - 14:55.

My help is only in educating people on how the delegate process works and Parliamentary procedure.

I can't make these people become delegates or even show up at their convention for i can only give them the tools they need to succeed at their convention and what they do with those tools is in their hands.

They need to come together and work at this if they are to succeed.

I have not found one solid solution to this very extreme problem from people within their own groups and i would love to have someone provide a solution if they have one.

Dr. Steve Parent

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Dr. Steve Parent

Dennis is awesome and so is Jeff, more or less...

Submitted by kedinger on Tue, 05/13/2008 - 03:04.

But, for the record, Dennis is not a delegate. Ask Dennis about it sometime, you'll come out a little wiser. Catch his show, if you're able. It's brilliant. Dennis is warm and funny and engaging and very, very smart.

Jeff can be a real pain in the ass to work with sometimes (maybe most of the time), but he's not a clueless assclown. I have seen no sign that he's pushing a personal agenda (or product). He's not currently being paid by the campaign. He's probably spread pretty damn thin. He had those of us in NV organized and prepared for our convention, even if it took a bit of last-minute scrambling.

He also had a lot of help from volunteers all over the state who did as he suggested and got out early to canvass precincts and make phone calls and volunteered with the local and state GOP. Winning a convention takes months and months of work and organization. (Winning a revolution will take years of small victories - think precinct and county.) Dennis' video of the Convention shows the end result of our work in Nevada; work that Jeff is partly responsible for.

We really shouldn't be focusing on personality conflicts. They drain us of our energy and distract us from the true enemy. I think anyone who would want to direct us inward at each other instead of outward at the work to be done is suspect.

We wanted Jeff to come on

Submitted by SGP on Tue, 05/13/2008 - 13:38.

We wanted Jeff to come on the show and tell his side but he has not retured the request.

He has also been asked to come on before and declined.

Our shows are fair and not MSM tactics and we only tryING to get to the truth out so people can make good decisions.

Why is everyone assuming this is a smear tactic? Dennis Grover is a very nice and very smart man and Jeff's comments yesterday made it seem as if Dennis was out to get him and this is not the case.

Dr. Steve Parent

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Dr. Steve Parent

Not so...

Submitted by kedinger on Tue, 05/13/2008 - 14:09.

Your comments were the only ones I read as intending to smear Jeff. I saw truthseeker4freedom, who is a friend of Dennis', say that Jeff and Dennis had worked out their misunderstanding. As I am a friend of Dennis and truthseeker4freedom and someone who organizes a Meetup and volunteers for the campaign (working with both JG and Jay W [who was mentioned in another thread]) and is privy to discussions happening between county organizers and the campaign, I can safely say that your continued statements that Dennis is going to dish dirt on JG are probably false.

Even JG will admit he's hard to work with from time to time, but who isn't?

Having seen many of your posts attacking various members of the campaign, I can't say I blame anyone for choosing to not be interviewed by you. I'm not sure why you think he has to justify his efforts to you, either.

I never said any such thing

Submitted by SGP on Tue, 05/13/2008 - 14:51.

I never said any such thing about a smear campaign.

Dennis never made any claim either although you might want to listen to the show at 4:20 when dennis comes on and see what is said.

If they are working together great that is exactly what i want and i would like everyone to work together but that seems less possible every day.

This has become a personal ego campaign to see who is the greatest Ron Paul supporter and i take must of the back last for it.

I did not even want to be in this position and am moving on to positive things to take back congress as well as working to obtain the nomination for Dr. Paul in Septmeber.

Where have i ever attacked the campaign? I have defended the official campaign many times when people attacked it. People came to me because they were not working well with Jeff or vice versa . Who cares who works with who as long as the job is done the right way.

If we can't find some way to unify we will fail and that is what i am trying to work towards.

I am not in this to make politics my full time job for i only want to get our country back to where it should be.

Dr. Steve Parent

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Dr. Steve Parent

this is odd... where's Laurie?

Submitted by NH_Patriot on Mon, 05/12/2008 - 23:25.

SGP never gets to make a post without her being right behind him to post all kinds of criticism... perhaps she's taking the day off? (no doubt all that bitching must be very exhausting :)

Please email me Jeff Dr.

Submitted by SGP on Mon, 05/12/2008 - 22:37.

Please email me Jeff

Dr. Steve Parent

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Dr. Steve Parent

Jeff is Brilliant!

Submitted by truthseeker4ronpaul on Mon, 05/12/2008 - 19:57.

Truthseeker
After concerns over Jeff's motives, actions and personality, I have come to several conclusions:
1) you have to work your butt off
2) you have to stay focused on the goal
3) you have to be more like a Paulite than a "CAINITE"
4) you have to believe in miracles and you will get them

And most important--Jeff Greenspan is BRILLIANT follow him and his direction and your state can win....don't and you loose and so does Dr. Paul. It really is that simple but you have got to be committed and do your 100% and miracles happen.

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Truthseeker

Jeff you can contact me at

Submitted by SGP on Mon, 05/12/2008 - 19:15.

Jeff you can contact me at newspaper4paul@hotmail.com

Dr. Steve Parent

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Dr. Steve Parent

What standards?

Submitted by jg on Mon, 05/12/2008 - 17:20.

Will Mr. Greenspan be held guilty until proven innocent based on innuendo and unsubstantiated accusations?

Will Mr. Greenspan be able to face his accusers?

No?

Wow, what excellent support of the constitution, constitutional principles and the principles Ron Paul supports!

Its plain to see jg is a

Submitted by RobertJ on Mon, 05/12/2008 - 17:30.

Its plain to see jg is a plant sent here to cause trouble.

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Ron Paul 2012

jg is jeff greenspan

Submitted by SGP on Mon, 05/12/2008 - 17:40.

jg is jeff greenspan Robert

Dr. Steve Parent

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Dr. Steve Parent

.... and that's supposed to

Submitted by justjenmi on Mon, 05/12/2008 - 17:48.

.... and that's supposed to mean something because ..... ???

I answered his question. Is

Submitted by SGP on Mon, 05/12/2008 - 18:29.

I answered his question. Is there a point to your comment?

I am confused

Dr. Steve Parent

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Dr. Steve Parent

My bad

Submitted by justjenmi on Mon, 05/12/2008 - 18:31.

I didn't realize you addressed your comment specifically to Robert. I guess I'm the confused one.

Having said that, however, seriously .. who is this person? Is he a troll or something?

You're not the only confused one

Submitted by Gil on Mon, 05/12/2008 - 19:17.

In the thread "RON PAUL EFFORTS IN NEVADA", a woman named Barbara ripped on a guy named Jeff Greenspan regarding some not-fully-detailed activities involving RP delegates and GOP officials in NV. From what I gather, Jeff Greenspan (jg) is a paid political staffer with the RP campaign. There's obviously bad blood between Barbara and Jeff, Jeff and "Dr." you-know-who, and probably others. Barbara, who was a delegate, asked Jeff to tell us why she wasn't at the NV convention. Jeff did not, and neither did Barbara. As someone who is a delegate to my state convention, I'd like to know what to expect from the RP campaign with respect to coordination, organization and general support. If not for that, I really could not care less about all the personal drama and soap opera bullshit. There's way too much of that going around these days.

Ageed on the drama issue Dr.

Submitted by SGP on Tue, 05/13/2008 - 09:42.

Ageed on the drama issue

Dr. Steve Parent

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http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48798

Dr. Steve Parent

JG is Jeff Greenspan the

Submitted by SGP on Mon, 05/12/2008 - 19:07.

JG is Jeff Greenspan the person being refered to in a few articles and the person that Dennis Grover is going to talk about tommorow on this entire situation.

You can find the original post here on how this all started.

Dr. Steve Parent

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Dr. Steve Parent

Ohhhhh ...

Submitted by justjenmi on Mon, 05/12/2008 - 19:16.

I think he was the individual I happened to get into it with because he claimed it would cost $5k to get to St. Paul. He did no research before posting that theory either, as I was able to find both airfare and lodging for extremely reasonable rates during convention time. Ha!

Yes that is the same person

Submitted by SGP on Mon, 05/12/2008 - 20:05.

Yes that is the same person

I went nuts when i received 80 phone calls a day on that issue.

Jeff also sent out an email the night of the fiasco in NV to all the delegates that said soething to the effect of.

There is a rumor that we will reconvene tomorrow at 8am if this is an inconvenience to show up tomorrow DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.

Don't worry about it?

Dr. Steve Parent

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