Barnes And Noble Suppresses Dr Ron Paul Revolution Manifesto
Submitted by mms on Tue, 05/13/2008 - 01:01
http://wonkette.com/389559/barnes--noble-suppresses-ron-paul...
A book can be #1 everywhere, INCLUDING at BN.com and they won't necessarily feature it on the bestseller shelf up front. There is not hard critera, either. Whatever IS selling or is projected to sell. READ: whichever publisher PAYS for the self space. It is FRAUD.
It should be the Barnes & Noble PICKS or FEATURES.
It doesn't take a constitutional lawyer to realize that this book placement is, indeed, Thomas Jefferson's very definition of "FRAUD."
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My BandN
was sold out with six on order. I told the lady that she had better order one thousand of them, and that it was going to be the best book ever. I reserved one for me and one for the person that I check out with at the counter. Hopefully the counter person will recommend it to other people shopping at the store.
Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must. like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.-Thomas Paine
The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!
I had to ask my local book
I had to ask my local book store to order them. I try to buy local as much as possible. When I went there a month ago she had no plans of ordering it. I suggested she should hinting on Ron Pauls's popularity and pre-ordered two to make it worth it, When I picked up my book she was unpacking a box of Paul's titles. I checked back and she sold most of them.
Spreading the message of freedom is a good habit.
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jeez...
is everything a freaking conspiracy? Now B&N are "hiding" the books. If you were to ask you B&N store manager they would tell you that there is not a "best seller" spot in which to display books...they are, however, in alphabetical order in their subject section. Just buy the damn thing already...
"...the most memorable concern of mankind
is the guts it takes to
face the sunlight again."-Charles Bukowski
You know what?
I think we're all getting a little too sensitive here. Not everything is a conspiracy theory. B & N's that don't stock enough copies in prominent places are probably ignorant, not malevolent.
Thank you Ruth.
I agree with your reasoning.
While sign waving and passing out Slim Jims, I had a man tell me that he wasn't from my "area". He thought Ron Paul was running for local office. I asked him, "You're American, aren't you?". He nodded. I gave him a Slim Jim.
The management and employees of B&N need to be educated just like everyone else.
Ron Paul "Sign Wave Across the USA" -- November 5th!
You know what else?
My neighborhood liquor store owner, who I've been acquainted with for years and who always strikes up a conversation, usually about ice hockey, asked me the other day who I was voting for. When I replied "Ron Paul" he said "Who? Never heard of him" even though I rarely go in there without gear on! That was an eye-opener for me. You're right, everyone needs to be educated, and I guess I really dropped the ball on that one.
Do what you can.
We are working against decades of public school and mass media indoctrination.
___________
Lisa C.
http://www.women4ronpaul.com/
Ron Paul "Sign Wave Across the USA" -- November 5th!
I'm back. They had 5 of
I'm back. They had 5 of them from what I saw. I bought 4 of them. I'm going to ship them off to Iraq per my plan in my other thread which I'll update soon. The conversation was interesting. Girl had pink hair. and said "Ron Paul, huh?" And I said well yeah, I have a lot of friends over in Iraq who have asked me to send them this book because they can't get it over there. So I'm sending these to Iraq. I said every month they have different basics they can't get like socks, toothpaste, flavoring for their water, so I'm sending them that stuff and this book as they have asked. (which I am doing, go to www.anysoldier.com or www.anymarine.com and have a look)
Anyhow, her demeanor completely changed. Overall a great success. Wonder if she is wondering why our troops want me to send them the Ron Paul book?
Bring This With You
Print this out, and bring it with you: http://www.dailypaul.com/files/nyt-bsl2.pdf
It's Dr. Paul at #1 on the NYT bestseller list. Then watch them try to explain why his book isn't at the front.
Just about to head there now
Just about to head there now to buy Robert's Rules of Order to prep myself for the state convention. I'll also ask about the book and lecture them if they don't have it about how unwise a decision it is to not carry the New York times #1 bestseller.
Walked Out of B&N
I couldn't find Dr. Paul's book anywhere in the B&N closest to my house, and there was nobody at the Customer Service desk. I ask the lady at checkout and she just referred me to the customer service desk without so much as blinking an eye. I walked back to customer service and it was still empty with one person standing there waiting. I decided that B&N just didn't want my business. I made sure to let the checkout lady know that there was still nobody at customer service and that I was taking my business elsewhere.
I'm buying the book on Amazon. It's cheaper, and there's no sales tax, so I'm not giving the government any more of my hard earned money.
I say, that if...
any bookstore doesn't have a copy of RP's book in a prominently displayed area where it's easy to find then MAKE THEM EARN THEIR DAILY BREAD by asking them to find it for you! And make sure that they work hard trying to find it.
If they don't want us to pay to buy a book, then make them pay for not having it!! Be sure to make them search all the nooks and crannies!
However, I believe that someone may have posted the opportunity to buy the book at a reduced rate if it were purchased in small bulk amounts so that individuals could promote the book and make a profit doing so. Does that sound familiar to anyone?? That would be one way to get it into to the hands of John & Joan Q. Public if, in fact, the book is intentionally being suppressed for any reason. Just a thought.
Don't wait for them
Along with asking them to find it, make sure you also remove the stack of Obama's old, crusty book sitting on the front table, and replace it with a fresh stack of Ron's new book, sitting idle on the back table.
Well, Look at the CEO, Founder Leonard Riggio
Neo-Lib -
Research and find out what he's about.
Article from Newsweek
http://www.businessweek.com/1998/26/b3584001.htm
...Constitution guarantees freedom of speech and not freedom to purchase rubber bands is that the health of culture depends on the availability and the diversity of ideas, not on the availability of rubber bands,'' says Todd Gitlin, a professor of culture at New York University. ''Leonard Riggio wields immense power over the long-term health of our culture.''
Indeed, a simple decision by the mighty chain to buy or not to buy, to display or not to display, can make or break a new book--particularly one by a little-known author. That terrifies many in the literary world who see Riggio as a number-crunching businessman ready to sacrifice literature to profit".
What do you expect!
Back before we knew that Rap...
was music (if indeed it is) it didn't become popular because it was being sold in the big music stores. It became popular because it was being sold out of the trunks of the cars that the rappers were driving. Look at the success it's enjoying today because they focused on another way around the resistance of the mainstream stores to sell it. Today that's all you see when you walk down the CD/DVD aisle of any big outlet.
Let's not forget, the big guys in the big stores are greedy little b@$tards. Can anyone remember where we can buy RP's books at wholesale so that we can sell them ourselves? Perhaps their salivary glands will go into overload when they realize all the sales they lost! Let the market place set the standard.
I had to order mine they had
none in stock. After I read it I bought 2 more at Amazon. I think I will buy some more. Peace
Prepare & Share the Message of Freedom through Positive-Peaceful-Activism.
B&N
We have a beautiful new B&N here in Hendersonville, TN.
Couldn't find it, had the girl look. They ordered a whopping 10 copies!
Of course..all gone. I suggested she order alot more than 10 because of its rising best seller status. She offered to order me 1.
The DP is proof that the grassroots support for Ron Paul and his peaceful message of individual liberty is large, real, and not going away!
KEEP BUYING, KEEP GIVING
#1 all year long!
"The body is but a vessel for the soul,
A puppet which bends to the soul's tyranny.
And lo, the body is not eternal,
For it must feed on the flesh of others,
Lest it return to the dust whence it came.
Therefore the soul deceives and despises."
Can anyone explain
my experience of them keeping only one copy on the shelf (even if it was hidden from most view angles) and THEN replacing it with another after that one was purchased by me? IOW, this doesn't add up. She knew where it was before she could see where it should be. She 'knew' it was out before she went to look. She obviously knew a lot about it's status but just happened to 'find' another one in the back right after my sale?
I don't think it's a top-down policy. What I really believe is that some of us have ran across people that are aware of RP and personally do that little bit they can to oppose him. It's probalby the same as me turning Obama's books around in WalMart every time we pass them. lol
I don't think it's a top down policy either
My local B & N has kept plenty of copies in prominently displayed places.
Not fraud
There is nothing fraudulent about Barnes and Nobles decisions to put Dr. Paul's book anywhere in their store they like...in fact, they can decide not to carry it for whatever reason they'd like.
The book is fairly new, so it hasn't made the best seller lists yet...those aren't updated daily.
Part of their revenue stream is selling prominant shelf space in their store to the highest bidder...just because Dr. Paul doesn't need to pay to get you to buy his book, it doesn't constitute fraud.
They are a free business, and should be free to run their business however they like. People always speak about personal freedoms, but freedom to run a business is as important if not more so.
What would you have done abou this? Do you want a federal cabinet level department to ensure fair and equal shelf space at all bookstores?
What do you think about the war on drugs?
How about Operation Wall Street?
Shout it today!
http://www.youshouts.com/index.php
checked for myself and your right
about B&N....
"...the most memorable concern of mankind
is the guts it takes to
face the sunlight again."-Charles Bukowski
by the way...
...apparently you had not heard that Ron Paul's book debuted at number seven (7) on the New York Times best sellers list or that it was #1 on Amazon.com's best sellers list.
"The book is fairly new, so it hasn't made the best seller lists yet..."
Perhaps you would like to revise your incorrect remarks and let all of your friends and family know that The Revolution: A Manifesto is #1 on the NY Times best sellers list (as of 5/18). Thanks.
"If we want to live in a free society, we need to break free from these artificial limitations on free debate and start asking serious questions once again." -Ron Paul
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"...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy
I know you consider yourself forward thinking
But the ability to see into the future is beyond me...5/18 hasn't happened yet.
What do you think about the war on drugs?
How about Operation Wall Street?
Shout it today!
http://www.youshouts.com/index.php
Why don't you just check before making a wisecrack?
Free and Brave
or Cradle to Grave
You can't have both
Free and Brave
or Cradle to Grave
You can't have both
No Need To See Into the Future
These lists are made public a week and a half prior to the posted date. That's why the Ron Paul campaign issued a press release celebrating the book's rise to #1.
from the source...
From the source (my emphasis):
"If we want to live in a free society, we need to break free from these artificial limitations on free debate and start asking serious questions once again." -Ron Paul
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"...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy
"You don't have a right to be given access to Paul's book."
"You don't have a right to be given access to Paul's book."
I'm assuming that you agree with that statement, eh "jzneff"?
The beauty of liberty and voluntary associations (like buying a book that is #1 on the NY Times best sellers list) is that we are free to express our opinions, seek redress, possibly disagree or even discontinue our voluntary associations.
You, on one hand, don't believe that the perceived poor placement and unavailability of Ron Paul's book at major book retailers constitutes fraud.
I, on the other hand, am dumfounded to not think that there is some form of deceit going on at the level of the book seller, distributor, or publisher when the #1 best seller is unavailable so often (as has been my experience as well as many others on this forum).
By the way, I am very thankful to all of you reporting on your observations as you attempt to enter into a voluntary association to buy Ron Paul's book.
Again, I submit that as many of us as possible attempt the investigation that I have proposed below--to identify the availability of the other books on the NY Times best sellers list at retailers where Ron Paul's book is out of stock or otherwise unavailable.
I am sure that the corporate entities of Borders or Barnes and "Noble" will not openly espouse prejudice toward Ron Paul or his book.
On the other hand, what could we say if it appears that the unavailability of Ron Paul's book at these retailers were anomalous compared to the other books that have been identified as best sellers in various publications?
At a minimum, to reiterate what I said before, I do not think that it's a good business model for a major book retailer chain to have the #1 non-fiction book on the NY Times best sellers list (or #7, or #2, or #10) unavailable or out of stock. But I guess that common sense does not always prevail in the corporate world.
"If we want to live in a free society, we need to break free from these artificial limitations on free debate and start asking serious questions once again." -Ron Paul
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"...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy
I absolutely agree with that statement
You do not have the right to access any product that the market hasn't delivered. If you believe B&N to be slighting Dr. Paul, then you have a market option to punish them for it (discontinue shopping there).
It may not be a good business model, but it is their absolute right to sell you what they want.
Perhaps their limited supply of this book is not outright deciet, but lack of planning. If it continues to sell, rest assured they will maintain a better stock.
You have every right to complain and call for boycotts of B&N if you like, but when you start calling it a crime to not sell a product, then you are running afoul of every free thinking bone in my body. This is not fraud.
What do you think about the war on drugs?
How about Operation Wall Street?
Shout it today!
http://www.youshouts.com/index.php
Wow
Excuse me, but the crime of fraud is not the same as the word fraud. Look it up.
So, according to your logic and that of other disinfo trolls, I do not "have a right to be given access to Paul's book" by Ron Paul himself or by a friend or by a book retailer that I might enter into a voluntary association with?
"You don't have a right to be given access to Paul's book."
You "absolutely agree with that statement"? Wow.
"If we want to live in a free society, we need to break free from these artificial limitations on free debate and start asking serious questions once again." -Ron Paul
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"...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy