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2 very pressing issues

The November 5th money bomb is only big news to us right now. When it gets pulled off it will be a huge headache for all the “top tier” candidates and MSM! I believe we have two big problems right now however. If you can address one or both please do.

1. While the Internet Ron Paul supporters are “on line” with the 5th of Nov. the common supporter is almost unaware of what’s being planned. One of my fellow Meetup members in rapid city SD was completely unaware of the money bomb on the 5th! Also an overwhelming number of supporters at the Rally with Ron Paul in Cheyenne WY (check out our Meetup 553 site pics) were also ignorant of the upcoming event. I am not dreaming this up, I think regardless of what we the online faithful think common supporters are clueless of what’s coming. So the question becomes, since the “official” campaign will not get the word out for whatever reason, what can you or I do to tell all Ron Paul supporters, traditional and tech Savoy, about the upcoming Nov. 5th money bomb? Ideas?

2. Second, Ron Paul is still at 2,439,346.50 the campaign set a goal of 4 million! We all have different opinions if that was a good goal or idea, but that is beside the point. The MSM knows about the goal, and reported on it. They know (the MSM that is) that officials have a 4 million dollar expectation this month, and if Ron Paul does not hit it, they will report that I bet! So I personally think we have a very pressing problem/opportunity, the goal needs to be met. After the tonight show we will most likely see a sharp rise in hits on the website and those hits will see our donations, and also that the goal is not met. It matters not IF they know about Nov. 5th the new viewers must see Ron Paul reaching a goal he has set. If you can, save the 100.00 for Nov. 5th. But please! If you plan on donating 500.00 or 2300.00 on that day, anything-above 100.00 send it today. The news will report it, the new viewers from Jay Leno will see it, and we will feel the elation form meeting a goal set! I am NOT trying to discourage anyone I AM trying to encourage everyone. Thoughts? .

Finally I must address this subject. I am not, and never have been, a Troll.
1. I can be found on our local meet up 553 Rapid City SD look at my pictures.
2. My user name is sisterwood2000 on YouTube. Look.
3. I donate! I only wish my laptop could have taken a screenshot (it would not work!) of my donations to Ron Paul. But here is a letter.
Mr. Aaron Knudson, Thank you very much for your donation to the Ron Paul 2008 Presidential Campaign. Your donation will allow us to expand and grow our campaign. We depend on donors like you to help us spread the message of freedom, peace and prosperity through Ron Paul’s candidacy. Thanks for being a part of the campaign! Your confirmation number:
T46063-93519447
4. And lastly, I actually use my real name for my user name on this site - Aaron Knudson. If you disagree with my comments just do that, disagree and give some additional information why. Maybe I am wrong. Telling me why and persuading me is much more effective than to ridicule me saying, “Troll.”
(Only one user said that, but hey I was pissed!)




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The goal (as stated) is actually $3 million

The official site says $4mil, but Ron's fundraising director said in a very recent interview that it was actually $3mil, $4mil, $5mil over the next 3 months.

Regardless, he's now raised almost 1/2 of his entire Q3 funds in 1 month. That's impressive, and incredible for a guy who gets almost ZERO attention from the MSM. Plus, if everyone who pledged for Nov. 5th actually donates, he'll raise over $1.1 million that DAY alone.

Regardless, I think that the original poster is right in asking that if you have more than $100 you're planning to give on Nov. 5th, give the extra now and then donate $100 as planned on the 5th.

I feel pretty confident that as Ron's support grows in the run to the primaries, he'll hit the $12 million target he set. And if he doesn't, so what. As long as he has as much money as he needs to get his name out there that is all that matters.

Would have been nice if that

Would have been nice if that Nov 5th money bomb was actually scheduled for today... could have made the goal for the month and would have been brought up on Leno for sure.

Except, it would miss the

Except, it would miss the point of doing on November 5th, which is part of its "niftiness" (yes, niftiness).

I think it would benefit us

I think it would benefit us much more if we made the monthly goal and it was televised to millions of people versus being associated with some dumb movie. Just my opinion though.

Nov. 5th

Perhaps some are right, but if November 5th is to be a true success we must give more than 100.00. Because sadly, the people have not disappointed me in the facts of fundraisers, they don’t do what they say! How many of us who organize a Meetup see a good number RSVP to come, and don’t? Same thing. Now on a second note, I agree “I” don’t need to worry about the MSM, but the mainstream voter will be paying attention to what is said on TV. I cannot emphasize enough how many people can hardly tell me two candidates names on the republican side. I may be WAY off base but I believe Ron Paul should call Rudy out! The most exposure we ever received is when the MSM supported Rudy on the 9/11-attack debate point, and had to eat crow after researching what the truth is. Dr. Paul gave Rudy a reading list, and now we need to ad the constitution to that list! Ron Paul said Sunday he wants to talk to Jay Leno about this.....

Recently, on NBC's The Tonight Show, Host Jay Leno quipped, "They keep talking about drafting a Constitution for Iraq. Why don't we just give them ours? It was written by a lot of really smart guys, it's worked for over 200 years, and [heck], we're not using it anymore."

The poster has a point.

The poster has a point. Regardless of what we believe the MSM will do with the October fundraising goals, we are about to have a flood of new interest on the campaign site, and we don't want them seeing anything that might create the appearance of a weak candidate. Perhaps the best thing to do is for the campaign to temporarily move their widget to another page, or to put up another temporary widget in its place that tracks fundraising in a different context (like they did with the 430k meter not long ago).

You shouldn't worry about the MSM

The fundraising for the 3rd quarter was useful to establish his credibility, but at this point it is simply needed for the normal purpose of funding the outrageous cost of ads.

If the MSM were to cover the campaign again because of what they chose to portray as a fundraising problem, it will be more coverage from the MSM: Yippee! Then they'll cover the next burst. Then the next slowing. And so on. They've announced the death of McCain once every month, but I'm sure he's grateful that they've continued to mention him.

The behavior of the MSM couldn't prevent the development of the campaign to this point. We should keep making contributions as we can without forgetting that we're doing it to help Paul get out the message and NOT because we've let the MSM scare us into thinking we need to make money to give to them for ads in order to keep their love. I think our emails will prevent them from ever ignoring us.

That said, you're right that we should remember the important role of contributions, and I think we should try to do something on every Money Bomb day (such as today), even if it is small. There will be one every week, and I've already committed at ronpaulmoneybomb.com to add at least $25 during every weekly bomb (and $100 on November 5, both by me and by my wife).

Hi Aaron

Hi Aaron. It is my belief that the November 5th money bomb should be as big as we can make it no matter the goal for October. The campaign has repeatedly stated they expect about 3 million for October and then 4 million for November and then 5 million for December. I would be very surprised if we do not reach the quarterly goal of 12 million. This October target is not very important and will soon be forgotten. Not so the effect and accomplishment of what we can do on November the 5th. A bomb has one purpose. The bigger it is the better it is. Its increasing effect is exponential. The bigger it is the greater the increased effect.

For instance 2 million is great but 3 million is way better than great plus one half. This is because it occurs within a 24 hour period and the maximum display of unity and strength is what this is all about. Let's not dilute our display of unity. I myself am forking out more than I normally would simply because of the exponential potential. We'll get more bang for our dollar on November 5th than on ANY day between now and the general election.

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"So the question becomes,

"So the question becomes, since the “official” campaign will not get the word out for whatever reason, what can you or I do to tell all Ron Paul supporters, traditional and tech Savoy, about the upcoming Nov. 5th money bomb? Ideas?"

Well, the official campaign has distanced itself for obvious reasons. There are folks out there who have forwarded the email / made aware to their meet up groups about the date, with the rest of their family's / extended too. That'd be a start. As for trying to inform Ron Paul supporters about it, which is your goal, just go where they go.. RP Forums / Vids etc.. Personally I think time would be better spent converting those who do not know about him, its up to you.

As for the comments about the trolling. As from a collective group's opinion here [a view have been criticized eg. When cole was criticized, but have been wrong - other members have then vouched for that person*], so you won't get called one [collectively], unless you ARE one.. really.

Reasons why

What do you think the reasons are the campaign will not support the effort openly? With the email list alone it could reach thousands more than we can ever hope to. November 5th would be much more successful with their help don’t you agree? If not why?

Power of Grassroots Initiative

I believe November 5th is way more powerful as an independent, grassroots movement. If it appeared to be organized by the campaign, it would be like every other candidate's fundraising letters. By standing back and waiting for the explosion, it is truly a 'movement'! The Media can't diminish the power of the message. Everybody knows that when a candidate sends out a letter, donations spike---like the radio ad request. This is completely separate which is POWERFUL! It would be easier if the campaign were involved but this is better. It is also more difficult. We have to mobilize the troops, make sure every meetup group knows not just the internet freaks! What about spreading the word to other related groups that may not have a meetup? Maybe chiropractors or other alternative medicine types---that Health Freedom is powerful! Think outside the box--we have a week to get numbers----it is all numbers---stay focussed!

Because there is no need for

Because there is no need for them too. This is a grass roots movement. -- This isn't Huckbee's campaign [ where are his supporters at the debates? why aren't I seeing any of them? why is it they have to come here to voice their opinions? don't they have an active forum? why's Huckabee's site remarkably resemble Ron Paul's?]

As I said, this is a grass roots movement, and thats the beauty of it. I'm sure the media would LOVE to SPIN this money bomb; and I know Fox News or O'Reilly would have an opinion piece about the 5th of November being violent, calling for a rebellion etc. etc. all the bs that it is NOT. The main campaign can't be tied to the story, by any leap of the imagination. It's a proven method of success, BECAUSE - they have NOTHING NEGATIVE on Ron PAUL - so they naturally go after the supporters. The campaign cannot control all the supporters, no one can [Rudy's supporter for asking for $9.11donations - anyone?], nor should they have too - so they are therefore they are NOT responsible for anything that the supporters OR WOULD BE supporters [RonPaul4life & others] do...

TROLL!

Just playing. We've all be accused of being trolls.

1. There's nothing we can do except spread the word as best we can. I'm a member of my school's Federalist Society which is comprised entirely of Paul supporters so I'll shoot them an e-mail.

2. I don't want to be the defeatist again but I really don't think we have a chance at $4 million. And if that's the case, I'd rather save my money for the 5th and donate over $100.

TROLL!

In this case the shoe fits. Kind of late for a school night, Beaver.

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