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****Viguerie Calls on Top GOP Establishment to Resign!****

Richard Viguerie says the GOP establishment has betrayed the conservative movement, possibly setting conservatives back 10-20yrs. He says all leadership, including Bush/Cheney, need to resign immediately. He forgot to include the liberal Democrat RINO McCain. http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5990



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here is the solution to two

here is the solution to two party system.

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/49275

invigorating read

Stepping down would be the nice thing to do, because if I had it my way, I'd bring back some punishment tactics for tyrannious characters, circa 1400 mid-evil Europe. Kind of always wanted to see a Guilotine in action.

Actually the guillotine was

Actually the guillotine was invented in the late Eighteenth Century.

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regardless

A chopping block would suffice. You get the jist.

Here is Viguerie's web-site

I wrote him and I told him where to find a real conservative. Also, there is a petition that will be sent to over 300 leaders in the conservative movement, asking them to join in our efforts to declare independence from the Republican Party and instead establish conservatives as a third force in American politics.
Go sign it here:
http://conservativehq.com/active-petitions/third-force/

Mathew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

I'm having trouble with that

I'm having trouble with that website. None of the pages are downloading.

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hmm

not sure why that would be. But I'll bump for info...

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Mathew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

Viguerie has been on point

Real conservatives need to continue to step up.

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Gotta learn to count past 2....

The problem is that the "two party system" is already really a single party one, with two wings that play "good cop, bad cop" with a polarized electorate, each seeming better to voters at one pole. This allows them to jointly achieve an authoritarian, totalitarian agenda by each seeking openly to control the either social or economic (respectively) aspect of life, and only pretending to defend the other one.

This system is made possible by using plurality voting with only two major party options. Plurality voting is the worst option out of many others for achieving results that satisfy voters -- and the best at maintaining an elite in power. Surprised?

Google "range voting" and "approval voting" for two much better voting systems.

it's scary though

It seems that even three parties could be infiltrated and corrupted.

"The wicked flee when no man pursueth, but the righteous are as bold as a lion."

"Endless money forms the sinews of war." - Cicero, www.freedomshift.blogspot.com

So can our movement, and I

So can our movement, and I think it has been. I also think people who are not in our movement directly can attempt smear-by-association, like the "I'm for Ron Paul" racists you'll find on Youtube.com.

The solution to all that is to have a clear vision. I don't think we have one right now.

For example--and this post reminds me of that--we still don't know whether we are libertarians or Republicans. I think we should make up our minds one way or the other.

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Arrest Them All

JM
I don't know if the U.S. Marshall has the power, but I'd like for him to arrest all the Representatives in congress, all of the people in the Bush Administration, and anyone on Capitol Hill that has in any way committed treason against the Constitution Of The United States and the people of America. I don't think we'll be seeing too much action from our judicial system though, as it is corrupt to the bone! We all know what needs to be done, but there is no one representing us, the people. Our only hope, as I see it, is to give our total support to Ron Paul, as he is the only true patriot we have to vote for. Hope for America,,Ron Paul

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Well, we can rein them in by

Well, we can rein them in by restoring clean elections.

Obviously you can't sic the US Marshal on the Commander in Chief and the Congress, but if we can take back the ballot box, firmly, we can clean them out in fairly short order.

To do that we have to ban the Diebold machines and most other cheat devices.

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Do we really want to destroy the GOP?

I vote NO. We need two parties, unless you all want a one party system and the GOP to be a lame duck for another 8 years. The GOP leadership ain't gonna resign and pushing an article calling for their resignation is just going to make the GOP appear weak to the nation.

The people who control the politicians (with money, etc.) are pushing the leaders of the GOP into becoming liberal. The democrats have been socialist for quite some time. This shadow government is pushing for a socialistic state where everyone is overtaxed. Our burden is to make a strong GOP who sticks to its principles rather than its money. If we were to drag down the leaders of the GOP without pushing forward our principled candidates then all we do is leave a BIG hole for democrats to fill with more candidates.

This is a rebuilding and organizing year. Most of us are new to this process and we're just learning its our duty to participate in politics. We need to push forward our candidates rather than drag down the corrupted leaders of the party.

On a side note Viguerie is a known shill who collects then sells personal information and has promoted candidates who wanted more war in Iraq. I wouldn't go along with anything he had to say.

We already have a one party

We already have a one party system, don't we..?

As far as destruction, they are destroying their own party. Doing a damn good job of it too. When IL BUSHE took office, the Democratic Party was a shambles, severely on the decline, despite a lucky decade of economy under Clinton. In eight short years, the neo-cons and the White House have completely reversed that, and turned the GOP upside down.

This is the sort of dog-and-pony show, limited to two dominant parties only, that the elites like. It allows them to continue to keep and maintain a tug of war that is largely rhetorical.

I would not call Viguerie a shill; he's less of a shill than 90% of the so-called "conservatives" in the Republican establishment--which you want to protect and keep..?

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two parties

It looks like the differ only in one party being more socialist and the other being more fascist. There is truly a huge vacuum opening that requires a third party because the others are so extreme. I hope and pray we can get America back on track. I was just reading an article about that woman that went on myspace and a girl who killed herself. I have to say that 90% of the comments amount to "myspace should be abolished", "that woman should get life" or "the internet needs to be regulated". I was literally tearing my hair out. Everyone continually demands the government step in. I am at the end of my rope.

"The wicked flee when no man pursueth, but the righteous are as bold as a lion."

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Not everyone. Lots of people

Not everyone. Lots of people are disgusted with government and want less, and Dr. Paul is rallying them with his campaign and his book.

We do need a Third Party though--I think we CAN easily take over the Constitution or Libertarian parties, which is a pragmatic goal. We cannot take over the GOP--it's a pipe dream--and I think we should help speed their demise instead.

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Viguerie's a good man--and

Viguerie's a good man--and he's spot on!

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