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Possible constitutional amendments

We all know the Constitution isn't a perfect document so how can we make it more perfect.

I propose two amendments right off the bat.

1. Every law passed for these United States must include its justification against the constitution, each law must cite the constitution. Also, all law makers are require to read and stand under each law proposed.

--Ron Paul has proposed a bill that requires each law to cite the constitution as well as another bill which requires congress to read each law that is proposed before voting on it.

2. Any elected officials found in violation of the constitution will receive X punishment after being removed from office. Any Elected officials found guilty of fraud against the American people resulting in loss of American life, a tyrant, will result in their life being taken by hanging on the white house lawn, including but not limited to, the president of the united states.

Are these good amendments? Do you have a better one?



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How about these?

1. Expenditures for any fiscal year may not exceed 90% of the revenues of the previous fiscal year, with the remaining 10% used for debt reduction. should the debt be retired, that 10% shall be returned to the taxpayers in equal amounts.
2. Upon request by any member of Congress or the President, the Supreme Court shall consider and issue an advisory opinion on the constitutionality of any bill within 5 days.
3. The 17th Amendment is hereby repealed.
4. The 16th Amendment is hereby repealed.
5. The First Amendment is amended to read, "Congress shall make no law".
6. Congress shall make no law that infringes on the powers of the states or the rights and powers of the people. All such laws currently enacted are null and void.

New constitution ?

I like this constitution idea very much:

Texas Constitution 2000:
http://www.tcrf.com/constitution/English/declaration-English...

Texas should secede anyway.

Texas should secede anyway. The USA is pretty much done; stick a fork in her.

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amendment on accountability of Office

Resolution for accountability of Office:

This is to keep all people who work for the We the People of the this great country. It must be taken by all and all must have a copy of this with them if they are to go up to an individual and want questions answered, or if any one questions there ability to hold office. This oath must be taken by all those working here in North Dakota state. If they are a city counsel member, IRS agent, Judge, state or county employee, any one who works for the people. In fact I believe all should take a test to see if they understand the Constitution for the united States of America and after attaining office be given a copy of the Constitution.

To hold them to there accountability of Office they must take the Oath of office below.

All Public Office holders Oath

All Public office holders must take the following Oath or affirmation and if with in a state the Oath to uphold the Constitution for the _____________ state. This must be signed and recorded in the county of which they make there Oath. Before they can carry on any public office function.

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) I will protect We the People of these sovereign Republic states and their unalienable rights; that I will follow and defend the Constitution for the united States of America (and follow and defend the Constitution for the Republic of _________________ state); against all enemies, foreign and domestic; I will keep all treaties previously entered into; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter

Oath violation Rule:

If two or more charging affidavits are filed in a county on any one individual for violation of Oath of office. With the county clerk or county of commissioners. An inquest must happen within two weeks by a group of 12 individuals not holding or have held public office. If they determine that that violation seems very possible to have happened then a trial by Jury would be setup. The offender would then be placed on leave without pay. The charger and the defendant must appear in person without representation speaking for themselves. They may have council at there side but council may not speak for them.

This Jury would be 12 individuals that has not held or is not in public office now. The jury would be able to ask any questions from witnesses, defendant, prosecutor, judge, or any one they would determined needed to answer questions. Plus all jurors would have a copy of the Constitution for the united States of America and a copy of the Declaration of Independence and a copy of the state Constitution.
The defendant has a right to a fair and speedy trial, All parties must be given a 10 day verifiable notice of a trial date not just a letter sent in the mail.

IF the verdict of guiltily is reached then that individual would be barred forever from holding any public office again and could face damage charges by the ones filing the complaint. If the individual is found not guilty than that individual would be allowed back to work and compensated for his temporary loss of job plus verified court expenses.

Some violations included but not limited to:
Failure to veto or vote against any unconstitutional law, regulation, rule, etc.
Failure to allow unconstitutional laws to continue when they have been notified of unlawful laws. And take no action within 30 days to correct it.
For using force on an individual that is not Constitutionally protected

Some Violation not included but not limited to:
On temporary bills or laws that would be enacted before the vote of the people that can not exceed two years.

For laws or bills or rules of which they have not had 30days to take corrective action verifiably. That is they cannot just be told something in public or a letter written to them that is not verifiable that they have received it.

Extending the rules Should the office holder get so bottle up with a load all at once can send a verifiable letter asking to stating a time of which he will get to it but that time has to be within two years or if his term in office is less than before he is out of office.

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I pray that God may see that Ron Paul will not be hurt or wounded, that he may become our next full two term President of the united States of America!
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May GOD Bless each and everyone.
I pray that God may see that Ron Paul will not be hurt or wounded, that he may become our next full two term President of the united States of America!
Tim

Mandatory Trial

In ancient Greek and/or Roman culture (I forget whether it's one or the other or both), as soon as a politician's term was up, he would be immediately put on trial for his acts while in office, regardless of whether there was any known wrongdoing.

I wholeheartedly support implementing this idea. Bad politicians would be totally exposed and have to pay or perform some sort of restitution (community service, jail time; perhaps, in extreme cases, death?), and good politicians would be lauded for their efforts, thus ensuring their future re-election into office.

Such a law would make politicians think long and hard about running for office!

Interesting

I've never heard of that before. That, combined with a constitutional amendment against politicians who are held reprimanded for violating the constitution would be a powerful deterrent against tyranny.

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For what it’s worth…

Actuslly, having sound money in a free market would take care of all that stuff.

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Globalization

Has changed everything. With the onset of technology and other currencies around the world the US is at risk from the banksters using another country's military power and currency against us to again try to put us under repression.

It might not seem like much considering we're the most powerful country militarily, at least thats what they tell us, however, the same people who are trying to control our lives can easily gain access to all of the superior technology American's have paid to develop and bring it to another country. These are the people we really have to fear because they have access to nuclear weapons and are dam sure not afraid to use them.

Having a sound constitution is key, and educating the rest of the world about exactly how our almost perfect government is structured will also be key in letting them follow in our footsteps. The thought just occurred to me, true American patriots fighting this peaceful war to reattain our freedoms and set society on a path to full human potential are not just doing this for other Americans, but for the entire world to follow us.

We're the trailblazers.

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Two more possibilities.

No more FDA.

Free chocolate at every drug store. (I’m sorry. That was just wrong.)

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more amendments

1. Restore the right of secession as a check on federal power

2. Prohibit any law enacting a subsidy, price control, wage control, or discriminatory tariff

3. Prohibit foreign aid

4. Prohibit the issuance by government of any money other than gold, silver, or notes 100% redeemable in same.

5. Prohibit fractional reserve banking

6. Cap the government's borrowing power

Good thread.For starters:

Good thread.

For starters:

I. We need to reformat the Second Amendment and write it in boob-proof language...no more "a well-regulated militia.."--and firearms also should be made exempt from all tax laws, import and duty laws, and aviation laws.

II. The Federal Government, including the Executive Branch, should never be exempt from lawsuits and litigation.

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Here's my amendment:

No one who holds a public office should be allowed to be in a secret society (or at the very least, they must disclose their membership).

This is a huge part of the problem we have today with our elected officials.

They all take an oath to uphold the Constitution, but so many of them do not BECAUSE they have already taken an oath of allegiance to some other organization, which always seems to supercede their oath to uphold the Constitution.

Does this make sense?

I know the problem here, as alluded to by the poster below, is the fact that so many of them are in secret societies already, and are thoroughly corrupt, so it would be very difficult to get something like this passed.

However, I think it's a good idea...

Maybe at the very least, anyone who would vote against such an amendment would appear suspicious.

We're so Upside Down

We're so upside down that changes like that won't do any good until we replace every single one of the corrupt vermin in D.C. with liberty minded, Constituiton supporting, leaders with integrity. Laws are supposed to be agreed upon rules drawn up by the people to ensure their protection from various kinds of aggression and to establish a functional society. The way it is now, the political class operates 'above the law' and abuses their power to create laws to protect THEMSELVES from the people. See.... it's upside down. I actually had a dream last night about a revolt in America. The great part of it was that all of the neocons and war-mongering elitists were the ones who were rounded up and placed in the Halliburtion concentration camps. Oh well, we can always dream..

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There aren't many of them,

There aren't many of them, you know. By that I mean the leaders of the nation's elites? You could probably fit most of the important ones in one FEMA camp.

We already outnumber them in the extreme. The new bestselling book must be driving them crazy.

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Both good, but the 2nd suggesting it the better of the two

I think the greatest weakness of the present Constitution is the lack of punishment for those who violate it. The punishment should be harsher than for individual crimes because of the large number of people are affected by the destruction of freedom under the current system of plunder and control.

The real problem would be enforcing such a provision since you would be relying on politicians and bureaucrats. You would need some sort of provision for a sufficient number of citizens outside government to petition a tribunal outside of the present court system. The tribunal would need to have a number of randomly chosen citizens to sit in judgment with their decision being final and enforced immediately; none of this lawyer driven mumbo-jumbo with appeals dragging on for decades; a claim that the defendant relied on advice from lawyers in arriving at his conclusion could not be a defense, otherwise nobody would ever be convicted; citizens only can sit on the tribunal once in their lifetimes.

No system is going to work perfectly, but maybe at least these jerks who rule us might at least read the Constitution and the bills before they vote.

Maybe a little bit of Max Rosepierre (French Revolution fame) right here in the USA might be a good thing.

"Bend over and grab your ankles" should be etched in stone at the entrance to every government building and every government office.

Analysis

1) I like. (But that wouldn't be very nice to the Democrats!)

2) I think the victims of the unconstitutional activity should be able to get restitution from the politicians who passed the law.

Here's some of my own:
a) Repeal I.C.C.
b) abolish the US Postal system
c) remove the power of congress to coin and regulate the value of money.
d) remove the power of congress to regulate weights and measures (that power just reeks of totalitarianism!).

I totally disagree with C.

I totally disagree with C. The current problem is that congress is ignoring its constitutional duty as it relates to money. They've delegated their authority to privately owned banks, and they have completely ignored the requirement that gold and silver are the only forms of legal tender. The solution is to stop ignoring the Constitution.

C.

I'm really interested in C. It seems that only way that this country went into the hole was mainly because of currency issue. Had the currency been held in sound money there would have been no way for the banksters to really take control. When your in control of the money you don't really care who makes the laws.

Also. I'm thinking about removing the power to coin money from the congress directly and instead create another department, similar to the FED but under the supervision of the US treasury and Congress, only to make sure our currency stays sound and defends our currency against raids as what happened in 1913. Any laws that are proposed that pertain to the currency and the economy must also be approve by this currency protecting post, made up of a panel of renowned economics and "good" bankers.

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Whoa...no way dude!

Keep government as far away as one possibly can from money!

a)Money permeates the entire market
b) If there is a not a free-market when it comes to money supply, it isn't much of a leap to conclude that we wouldn't have a free market of any kind at all!
(paraphrased from Michael Nystrom).

No, you've gotten it

No, you've gotten it wrong.

The problem is that our money system is in PRIVATE hands. When it was in government hands with distinct laws the system worked very well. To a point we were adding 1 or 2 new states to the union every other year or so.

By adding another "agency" specifically chartered to protect our money system through unlawful reform passed by congress, like that of 1913, it could add another layer of security of our money being toyed with.

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Truly private?

It's mixture of government of private as I understand it (for example there is government granted legal tender laws).

From the perspective of the free-market economist, the problem lies with the government involvement.
So, I wish it were in private hands...that's where it needs to go.

Laws don't work...

People with integrity do. Remind every service member, veteran, law enforcement official and anyone else who takes the oath to "support and defend the Constitution" that all three branches of government are in violation of the Constitution. Then ask them, "What are you going to do about it?"

I agree. But I think one of

I agree. But I think one of the reason that politicians are able to violate the constitution is because of the lack of consequences. Getting paid off by the banksters they figured that the very worst thing that would happen is that they would get kicked out of office and not be reelected.

If we tied real consequences for violating the constitution, including at military and policing levels, especially at military and policing levels, the people would be much more protected because the enforcers themselves would be putting themselves at risk of the said consequences.

Another notion was to create or empower a select group of individuals with the power to walk into any office and arrest any government official. Not just based on evidence of a crime but also if it is the will of the people. I'm sure if someone mentioned the word citizen arrest to president bush he'd laugh in our face. I was thinking that each town in America should have their own sheriff's office which will enforce real law as well as watch over the local police to make sure they are not violating any civil laws. With so many Sheriff's it would be nearly impossible to buy all of them if their terms are only two years.

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Violation of the

Violation of the Constitution is Treason, and should be treated accordingly.

Sof for your suggestion of a small select group of individuals with the power to arrest officials on the will of the people, that is leaning far too close to democracy. Democracy leads to the will of the people overruling the rights of the minority. Think about FDLS - their children have been ripped away and the reason the CPS is getting away with it is because the majority of people are believe that they are all evil cultists. We do not want to entrust such action to the people. Instead, we should just focus on limiting government's powers not creating a secret police that is "serving" the people, it would take at very most a generation before they became corrupt.

Instead we should trust our sheriffs to do their jobs and worry about what's happening locally Federal Government should not affect the day to day lives of the people, that's what local and state government are for.

lack of

I think the problem is the lack of sheriffs as well as quality ones as well. I'm advicating that each town, or at least most larger towns, have a local sheriff. If enough sheriffs feel that their towns are unhappy with the elected government than the sheriffs should have the power to take the down by force with the will of the people.

I think the system may have some merit.

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Personally. I think this is

Personally. I think this is perfect. Once we have a decent congress and get laws like this passed, we would be able to relax our vigilance a little. This sort of thing MUST happen. I am proud of you for your thought and posts..