We Need A Union Like The EU
Submitted by Raymond on Sat, 05/17/2008 - 14:36
Most people have been comparing the EU to the coming NAU. But in reality we should already have a union like the EU. It is called the United States. Under the EU constitution each of the members still retain some degree of autonomy and maintain local control over local matters. France cannot force Poland to do things France's way.
There used to be a day when we lived in such a union where the individual states had control over local state issues. Those were the days...........
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wow....... O___O
Your totally right, because we don't need states rights or petition of government. Dude, seriously,.......we are not afraid of another country telling us what to do, we are the United States........that is not gonna happen......we are the policy makers.
But with that all aside, Globalism is not cool and I don't want to be poor.
I don't want to be subjugated to a one world government, there is no need for it, no gain for the public and individuals, just for corporations! Come on now!
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CHANGE the subject PLEASE!!
Raymond, CHANGE the subject PLEASE!! Make it" What is going on in The EU" . This EU is really awful and forced up the people in much secrecy!
EU not USA
Hope it never will be. The EU is rotten to the core.
Taomaster
As I Asked Above
Isn't the "Common Market, European Union" actually the "Old Roman Empire"?
oh please let it die..
Raymond please educate and EDIT this thread !
Edit at least topic. Please, it really hurts.
(my eyes! my eyes!)
You know Raymond I'm from Poland and
OF COURSE *they* can force Poland !
And not France but Brussel... *They* do this all the time...
Start educate here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVeMBNB0cII
Please change this absurd subject.
Nice to get confirmation
Nice to get confirmation from one who lives there! Even though Raymond's topic is not to most of our liking I'm glad he posted it and you replied. We are being educated.
EU is totalitarism
Imagine this: you have your OWN cow and you produce milk.
And this cow has her own passport (p a s s p o r t) and number.
And you have limit on the amount of milk you can produce.
And they have negotiations in Brussel how much each country (or "country") can produce! So if you produce and sell more you have to pay penalty.
And this is not a joke.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=39ZRhcDrYzk
And the carrot is fruit (by the low) and they decide what you can name 'vodka'. In Poland we can not produce wine becouse our polititians forgot to negotiate "quotes" of wine. You can not open you own shop on "holidays". You can not have private school unless you guarantee the goverment program will be teached there. Ofc we have IDs. And we have public medicare, public trains, public univerities, public social security witch everyone pay and it is 45% of your salary. VAT is 22%. Galon of gasoline costs ~7,6$ becouse price includes tax.
And we have 5 a.m. now :)
I better stop befor I go completly mad about this all good we have from EU.
We (freedom-lovers in Europe) just LOVE you all for your hard work.
You really give me hope. I have no idea how ppl in EU can be woke up.
Cheers.
absolutely
Watch Nigel Farage videos on YouTube. (one of the 758 members of the EU Parliament. He calls it exactly right.) The Lisbon Treaty Ireland will vote on is a joke. It is just like when the Congress tried to sell us on the immigration bill last year. "SOS," NO VOICE OF THE PEOPLE! They use different terms, new bills or treaties that twist the language of all the old bills and they will do anything to bulldoze anything and anyone to get their agenda taken care of.
Numbersusa.org did a fantastic job, along with the aid of some talk radio folks who SHUT DOWN the phones in Washington just one year ago. The 14 minute video they created in the Ross Perot style of educating folks was phenomenal. We need a Fire Washington campaign. Set up chip ins to pay for a site so people can automatically send faxes everyday, by the tens of thousands, telling all of them they are fired if they don't start representing the PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY, our security, our borders, our interests and our monetary system. Bumper stickers, signs, buttons, a one stop shopping site for Congress: You're Fired. It's their jobs they are trying to hold on to, but they don't ever hear from us, not in the manner they did last year. Only the lobbyists show up at their doors. They have no idea what they vote for anymore. While the rest of the world watches McCain, Obama, and Clinton, we should be developing a MAJOR "Congress: You're Fired" campaign . Hey who knows, maybe Trump will join us. :-)
This is a very interesting video....watch all 7! I couldn't walk away. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2bXCq0JhwE The music is a little techie for me, but turn the sound down if you don't like it. It helps.
The EU is fighting the same battle folks! It's a little out there, but pretty fascinating when you think of how they pull it all together. What's the commercial song go like? We're all in this together!
Be the Miracle!
The EU has now taken complete dictatorial
power over the EU countries. You can not even buy vitamins or herbs there anymore without a prescription.
First there will be these unions. Like the EU the african union, the North American Union, Central American Union, South American Union and finally they will be put under the authority of the new World Government, THE UNITED NATIONS.
We will then have no rights left and we will be chattel, our children wards of the state etc..
WAKE UP !!!
Gotta go sometime
I'm ready for the Lord to come back. What a mess evil + humankind has made of this world.
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It's not yet that bad,
(actually you can buy vitamins or herbs without prescription, at least in Germany), but the overall tendency is right.
Sovereign states are seen by the global elite as something pesky, if they don't behave like the "international community" wants them to do. They like big arcane organisations where specialists purport to take care of the people. So they want to establish EU-like entitys all over the world. Yet I am not sure of the United Nations (as it is). There they have to compromise with the Chinese and Russians whose elite do not yet have the same agenda. That's why they often have to bypass the UN (like f.i. in Yugoslavia), trying to make it obselete. The UN is a rather weak organisation.
Dr. Paul cured my apathy
Ron Paul was right
You want some organization
You want some organization outside of our control to be controlling monetary issues that affect the U.S.? Last I hear, the US is a sovereign nation. What will you ask for next? That we allow the United Nations to run our entire country?
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Read the fucking post
BEFORE you overreact. OK bud? Hopefully you don't act that way when discussing Dr. Paul's views with other's.
chillywilly youre very uncivilised and your the one overreacting
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You are offensive
That is no way to carry on a discussion, low life.
Pffwaaaaaaaa LOL LMAO
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You cannot compare the USA to the EU,
though the whole political dynamic to strengthen central "big" goverment is actually the same. That's why Europeans who are unhappy with this development hope, a success for Ron Paul will help us to overcome it.
I see your good intentions, but if you wish the state rights to be restored, the best way seems to go back to the ideas of your constitution.
Dr. Paul cured my apathy
Ron Paul was right
THE REAL FACE OF THE EUROPEAN UNION
http://tinyurl.com/5r8avn
Watch this and see if you still feel the same.
Thanks you Feebs. It is
Thanks you Feebs. It is really terrible.
Screw Sovereignty Screw Ron Paul I support Raymond
and I support the NAU.
join www.johnmccainforum.com where everyone supports the NAU and 1 World Order were we can all be free and prosperous and bring freedom to the world one NUKE at a time
welcome brother
Say no to dilusional Conspiracy theories
We support 1 World Govt.
*Sarcasm*
*Sigh*
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"let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our freedoms & wealth are in jeoprady"
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The EU was conceived on the
The EU was conceived on the principle of 'Free Trade' within a 'Common Market'. It is being turned into a clone of your new style federal government!
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Common Market
Isn't the "Common Market, European Union" actually the "Old Roman Empire"?
Yes
The Lisbon Treaty is another step towards federalism
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OMG it's hard to believe
All over the world the lying politician's have banded together to usurp the power of the people. It is a huge trend like that which began in 1776 with our revolution, creating democratically elected governments. Now the pendulum swings back to tyranny by an elite aristocracy. We must stand now before the situation is as far gone as it is in Europe. How can those elected leaders sell out their own countries?
Wow, good one, had not seen this
We need to contact those people and join forces with them. We need a united front against communism. We are all being sucked into the same hole. The sooner we rise above it, the easier it will be.
Thanks for posting it, Khan
Even in Europe people are unaware of this passionate resistance in the EU parliament.
Dr. Paul cured my apathy
Ron Paul was right
My brother has lived in
My brother has lived in Holland for 30 yrs and while he despises Bush and seems to understand and accept the nefarious nature of our US policies. Yet he seems to be in la la land about the EU and socialism. He's 53 yrs old, been a plumber for 28yrs makes approx $ 35K a yr. Pays $150 a month for free healthcare ,pays $75 a month + books for high school equivalent education for his 2 kids, and they do not own a car because they in no way can they afford one. Although their public transportation is awesome. When I listen to what they are required to do because of rules and laws I am NOT impressed.
Wow I''ve been so focused on
Wow I''ve been so focused on our own national battle I don't take a lot of time to study Europe. That was poignant and concise. Pleas post these from time to time. We have EU brothers and sisters that take the time to be here on DP and I realize they are fighting their own r3volution. Thanks Kahn today you are my mentor perhaps tomorrow I'll be yours.
Yes, I am from Europe. Here
Yes, I am from Europe. Here it is really getting worse. When we had a referendum some time ago, the people voted against the European constitution. Now it is being stuffed in our throats by dumb brainwashed politicians who cannot explain the benefits as to why we should have this EU government etc.. The government is deceiving, calling it an agreement now or something like that instead of a constitution. In fact it is the same. The people hardly know what is happening. Really crazy phenomena!
If Ron Paul wins, or/and his message gets out massively, he would be an enormous example and would have much influence on world politics. As a result We The People of the world will all be better off.