OK Guys, we know what happened in the Libertarian Convention, what are we going to do?

Iamvoting4RonPaul: Let me make one thing clear. I’m not living in Chile by convenience. I didn’t choose to leave the U.S. I was 11 when I left with my family in ’96 and had to leave everything I had: my friends, my childhood, my country, my beautiful state of Florida and my beautiful city of Tampa. I’ve never ever been on top of the world. I, like most other people, can say I know what life’s about and I’m only 23. My mother got sick in ’96 by getting paranoia schizophrenia and we couldn’t (and still can’t) find a cure for her sickness. I’m a fighter. Do you want to know what keeps me going every day? The Revolution. I’m a college student, entering into my 2nd year (after 1 year in which I had a bad case of depression and had to see a shrink), I’m literally stuck. How do I maintain my mother and my family? Nobody’s business. But most of the money we get is for her and her sickness. I don’t wish this on anyone. I pray for all of you who are able to spread the message every day of your lives. If I had finished college, I’d be there with you guys 100%. I voted for Dr. Paul in the FL primary as well as my dad. If I do well in my job (which doesn’t pay well), and my mother shows signs of improvement, I’ll save every cent to try to make it. I’m very proud of what you’ve been doing but you should understand that some of us want to be there in a bad way but have personal problems or economic problems (both cases applied to me). I’ve proposed several ideas like the idea of a worldwide freedom march before. I pray for you, for the other Revolutionaries and especially Americans (who haven’t voted for Dr. Paul) to wake up and smell the coffee for once and for all. Peace to all and thanks for what you’ve done.

As of today, I have officially given up on the libertarian party and I am now a Ron Paul Republican. I was going to vote Libertarian in the general but I've changed my mind.

Advancing a free society is our common goal.

Ron Paul remains far and away the most popular candidate for the freedom movement. But even Ron admits, despite great efforts to sway delegates our way, that he won't win and further, he doesn't even expect to get a speaking role at the GOP convention. He has ruled out a third party or independent run so his supporters should accept that and stop wasting time encouraging him to do so. If we are Ron Paul supporters we should do as he requests - keep working to advance the cause - but don't expect him to be our standard bearer. So how to advance the cause with respect to this presidential election?

1. Some want to write in Ron Paul - those who are clear they will vote for no one other than Ron. This may make a small statement but will lead nowhere.

2. Vote Baldwin or Barr. Both have their baggage. Lots of Ron Paul supporters and libertarians won't accept the Constitution Party's religious nature. Lots of Ron Paul voters and libertarians won't accept Barr as he is seen as an opportunistic carpetbagger lacking libertarian principle. Even with Ron out of the race, these two will just split the vote of those Ron Paul voters who would even be willing to consider voting for someone other than Ron Paul. Nor are they likely to bring in many new voters to the movement beyond what Ron Paul has already done. Neither will make a meaningful impact.

3. Vote McHillama. Yeah, right. Maybe a handful of Ron Paul voters would consider voting for Obama.

4. Abstain from voting. Although maybe the honorable thing to do when faced with nothing but bad choices it amounts to giving up the fight.

These are the only choices I see - and I don't like any of them. Beyond this election the only hope is to keep slogging away in the Republican Party. By 2012, if the country hasn't completely fallen apart by then, we'll see if we're making enough headway within the Republican Party to really focus public attention in a positive way to our freedom message. But if the entrenched old boy network in the GOP continues to effectively deny our efforts to manifest the Ron Paul Revolution it will probably be too late for political solutions.

marlow

I've got four choices, none of them good, but some of them are very interesting to me:

1. I'm a resident of Oregon and I can write in Ron Paul on my general election ballot and have the write-in counted -- but unless those numbers are high enough to warrant a name check by the elections division, Ron Paul's name will never see the light of day. But McCain won't get my vote. That will make me happy.

2. I can couple this strategy above with a concerted NONE OF THE ABOVE campaign and maybe pull in many other people who can't stand their choices but won't agree with me enough to vote for Ron Paul. Why does this NONE OF THE ABOVE option seem so unattractive to people? It's actually a positive statement. If enough of us do this, the powers that be are increasingly disenfranchised as we move forward with infiltrating the party structure and seek changes in legislation to make NOTA a valid option.

3. I can vote for Bob Barr. I have looked at the numbers of independent voters in my state. The statistics are, literally, laughable.

4. I can vote for Chuck Baldwin. I have looked at the numbers of independent voters in my state. The statistics are, literally, laughable.

P.S. Chuck and Bob are splitting the revolutionary vote.

Vote for the guy who is on the ballot and have those numbers show up in MSM reports (yeah, right . . . like that will be seen anywhere as anything more than a footnote).

here's what I'm going to do:

Continue supporting Ron Paul and the message. Hopefully something will happen and we'll get Ron the nomination. But I'm convinced he will not run 3rd party... and really, that's ok... because I'm fine with voting for Bob Barr... He's a good plan B, and WAY better than McCain and Obama/Hillary.

I know his record isn't as good as Ron's, but I believe he's telling the truth... and I've heard good arguments for why he voted the way he did in the past. Plus, his efforts in working against the things he once supported prove to me that he is sincere. I wouldn't call myself a Barr supporter... however, he is another voice for the message, and he'll be on the ballot, so I don't mind giving him my meaningless vote.

Even if the allegations that Barr is in fact a neocon were true, it wouldn't matter... he's not likely to win, so we wouldn't need to worry...

those of us who aren't full libertarians can thus use Barr to our Republican advantage. If we throw our support behind him as a protest vote, it'll be a good weapon/threat to use in getting our way in the party. And if Barr does win, I'm sure he'll be better for the movement/opening up the party system to others, etc.

I know there's Chuck Baldwin, but he's a little too conspiracy theory/something of a nobody for me... Bob Barr at least as recognition... I've already seen reports on him winning the nomination and the Libertarian Convention on CNN. I think we all know that nobody else (except for Ron) would have gotten that.

Ron can't run.... he'd be thrown out of the party. We need him in Congress, an we need him in his position where people will listen... maybe (I hope) he'll run in 2012.

I think Barr could get 5 million votes. And, even though I'm not keen on him, if Root is serious with his claims to support from 12 million poker players and 20 million small business owners, then that with the disgruntled Republicans/Conservatives and us, will be a nice audience for the message, and all on a national stage. I can see Barr being in the debates and winning as much as 20%.

Vote for Chuck Baldwin, unless Ron Paul is on a ticket in the Fall.

Barr is unacceptable.

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