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The Constitution Party FO's Ron Paul UPDATED WITH BALDWINS ACTUAL WORDS

Just a little reminder for all of you that forgot. It was the day after the Texas Primary when the Constitution Party Fu#%ed over Ron Paul.

Yes they proclaimed Ron Paul had quit the race for President, and to come join the CP.

I will never vote for any candidate from the CP.

Screw the CP and the horse they rode in on.

I have added the Chuck Baldwin statement below about Ron Paul's ending his campaign - also at that time I and other received stuff from the CP saying "Now that Dr. Paul has ended his campaign"

Here is the wording - "The recent Presidential candidacies of Duncan Hunter, Tom Tancredo, Alan Keyes, and Ron Paul make this abundantly clear. "

Trying to Capitalize on the Ron Paul Revolution way back on Feb 15the -

A Two-Party Death Grip!
by Chuck Baldwin
February 15, 2008

It is time to say it: the two major parties hold a death grip on the American people. Instead of representing the people, both the Republican and Democrat parties are bought and paid for by special interest groups and multinational corporations. Neither party pays any attention to the U.S. Constitution but both are largely marching in lockstep toward bigger and bigger government. Both Republicans and Democrats eagerly sacrifice what's good for the country for what's good for the party. As they now exist, neither major party deserves the support of patriotic Americans.

Furthermore, blind allegiance to the two major parties has created a "lesser of two evils" mindset that has warped the thinking and perverted the values of otherwise good people. What people would never accept in any other venue of society, they gladly and willingly accept from their chosen party's candidates.

People expect honesty and integrity from clergymen, bankers, doctors, businessmen, realtors, journalists, and even used car salesmen. Those same people, however, quickly tolerate and even excuse dishonesty and chicanery from their chosen political party.

Ever since George W. Bush became President of these United States, I have watched in disbelief as my fellow Christian conservatives have not only looked the other way as Bush repeatedly betrayed conservative/constitutional principles, but have willingly and enthusiastically supported his apostasy. Many of them are continuing to do the same thing by supporting the Big-Government, pro-amnesty, pro-gun control, pro-100-year war, grubby candidacy of John McCain. Good grief! Pat Robertson even endorsed the soiled candidacy of the liberal cross-dresser, Rudy Giuliani.

It is clear, therefore, that conservatives are more than willing to support and defend someone they know to be unfaithful to both their oath of office and to bedrock conservative principles. In other words, it does not matter a whit to them whether their candidate tells the truth, obeys the Constitution, or even demonstrates fidelity to the fundamental principles of liberty. If he has an "R" behind his name, conservatives will support him.

However, the same people who will justify dishonesty in the lives of their favored party's politicians would never accept such conduct from anyone else. Furthermore, many of these conservatives actually call themselves Christians; many are preachers. They preach and teach the virtues of honesty and integrity from the pulpit. They teach boys and girls to be honest and virtuous: to put the principles of right above personal wealth or benefit. Then, they turn around and support these lying politicians, many of whom are fornicating, greedy, arrogant reprobates. What is even more amazing is that they find no inconsistency with what they are doing.

In his Farewell Address, our first and greatest President, George Washington, eloquently lobbied the American people to guard against over-infatuation with political parties. Anyone reading his warnings today will be impressed with his insight and wisdom. Virtually everything he predicted has come to pass. Blind loyalty to political parties has corrupted our public institutions, blinded the hearts and minds of the American people, and opened wide the door to undue foreign influence.

If everyone who believes and teaches honesty and accountability would put it into practice when they walk into the voting booth, we could put a stop to this pathetic practice of electing dishonest and despicable people to high public office. Instead of hiding their own character and integrity under the bushel basket of party partisanship, voters could be proud of the fact that they are actually helping to set the ship of state aright by electing men and women of honesty and character.

Although I do not share this opinion, many people believe Abraham Lincoln to be one of America's greatest presidents (I think he was one of the worst). Personal opinion aside, it is a fact that Lincoln's election and subsequent influence upon this country was huge. Therefore, it is more than significant to realize that Lincoln was first elected from a four-person race with only 39% of the popular vote. Even more significant is the fact that at that time the Republican Party was a minor party, having been formed only a few years earlier. So much for the argument that a minor party cannot win a major election.

In practically every Presidential election, there are candidates from a variety of independent or "third" parties on the ballot. To ignore them merely because they are not Republicans or Democrats is absurd. Furthermore, it is more than obvious that the GOP will not tolerate principled candidates running for President. The recent Presidential candidacies of Duncan Hunter, Tom Tancredo, Alan Keyes, and Ron Paul make this abundantly clear.

While it may still be appropriate to support state and local Republican candidates, at the Presidential level, it is waste of time--and a wasted vote--to support the establishment Republican candidates. They are all Big-Government liberals. Yes, that includes Mike Huckabee.

I recommend that people seriously consider voting for a Third Party candidate this November. Start by taking a close look at the Constitution Party. http://www.constitutionparty.com/

The Constitution Party (the third largest political party in America) has a proven track record of fidelity to pro-life, conservative principles and to constitutional government. I further believe it is time for principled columnists and journalists such as Charley Reese to start encouraging voters to support principled, independent candidates.

The same goes for leaders of the Religious Right such as Tony Perkins, James Dobson, and Phyllis Schlafly. For them to continue to ignore good, independent candidates only serves to strengthen and augment the two-party death grip.

It is more than interesting that more people are currently registered as Independents than either Republican or Democrat. But it is not enough to register as an Independent, we must start voting Independent. Remember, the object is to elect honest and honorable leaders for our country, not to promote and protect the private agendas of the fat cats who control the two major parties.

It increasingly appears that the two major parties will force the American people to choose between the fascistic John McCain or the Marxist Barack Obama. Is that really the kind of choice we are willing to accept? Are we really content to continue to vote the "party line," no matter what damage results?

Let's face it, folks: the two major parties are strangling the life out of this country. It is indeed a death grip. Something drastic must be done, and it must be done NOW! Since it does not appear that either major party is salvageable (at the national level), it is up to "We the people" to take matters into our own hands.

This means bypassing the mainstream press and relying more on the Internet for our news and information. And it means bypassing the two major parties and voting for Independent candidates for President.

If Michael Bloomberg throws his hat in the Presidential ring, it will already be a three-man race. A strong independent conservative contender would make it a viable four-man race (just like 1860). At that point, anything could happen. But first, we must awaken to the reality of the two-party death grip, and then decide to do something about it. I am ready. How about you?

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You totally misread that sentence.

He was saying that the Republicans marginalized the campaigns of Ron Paul, Duncan Hunter, Tom Tancredo, and Alan Keyes. He didn't say they were out of the race.

Actually this is a great

Actually this is a great article by Baldwin! I missed this 1 thanks for posting it!

as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD

I think bedr1 needs a case

I think bedr1 needs a case of exlax! he has one huge turd cought crosswise.. thats for sure!

as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD

There's nothing there. How

There's nothing there. How is it that Baldwin "FO's" Ron Paul? By mentioning his name?

You're a cheap propagandist, Bedr.

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Support the Constitution of the United States

SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep. He'll

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep. He'll just slink off and assume a new identity and come back again. This will go on and on until the election, but there are those patriots amongst us who are vigilant in casting these frauds into the light of their own deceit.

Hey there Bedr1. I see that

Hey there Bedr1. I see that you chose to delete out the initial crass remarks you made about Baldwin and the CP. However, I found it prudent to copy those words just in case you decided to do such a thing hoping newcomers to the thread wouldn't realize what it is you had said. So here, for everyone to see that bedr1 is just a shill for CIA Barr, is his ORIGINAL post:

Just a little reminder for all of you that forgot. It was the day after the Texas Primary when the Constitution Party Fu#%ed over Ron Paul.

Yes they proclaimed Ron Paul had quit the race for President, and to come join the CP.

I will never vote for any candidate from the CP.

Screw the CP and the horse they rode in on.

AND just in case mr.bedr1 tries to say that I made that post up and that there isn't any real proof that he said those things.....here is a printscreen of the ORIGINAL unedited, CIA barr shilling, Baldwin smearing thread:

http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/6236/bustedkl9.jpg

and NOW i see that you have re-updated your thread :) Busted again guy. Here is a print screen of your *new* post before you went back and edited it to try and make it look like you DIDN'T take out your initial smearing after I busted ya the first time.

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5563/busted2ma8.jpg

Also, you are ignoring the rules the owner of this site politely asked you to follow over the course of the last couple days about posting entire articles instead of just providing the link. Please have the common courtesy to follow the rules and edit your thread immediately.

Lastly, your point isn't even valid. The vast majority of the Revolution was in disarray after Ron Paul put the video out shortly after the Texas primary. Nobody knew for sure that the campaign was over or still going or what. I view Baldwin's remarks as much less of an obvious attempt at stealing the Revolution's gusto than Barr's remarks evidenced here:
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/05/former-georgia.html

"I think there would be a natural inclination on the part of (Texas Republican congressman) Ron Paul supporters to support my candidacy," says Barr in an interview. "Ron is not really an active candidate right now."

hrmmmm sounds like CIA Barr is the one trying to f**k over Ron Paul.

let's see the Ron Paul endorsement

by Bob Barr. We have seen it from Baldwin.

But the CT party is only in 35 states. I don't see voting CT as a viable thing to do.

We have to get Ron Paul nominated. That is all that is going to work. That is the only thing that will save this country. Is Ron Paul "eager" to be president in spite of the pressure from the elite? Is he willing, ready and eager to take back our country. Is he eager to face all the trouble he will find when he gets in.

Baldwin would be likely to drop out and endorse Paul..

should Paul receive the Republican nomination- would Barr?

Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Ha ha ha - the Constitution Party lackeys come out in force

Here your go GUYS IN CHUCK BALDWIN'S OWN WORDS - "The recent Presidential candidacies of Duncan Hunter, Tom Tancredo, Alan Keyes, and Ron Paul make this abundantly clear."

This was sent out on Feb 15th - talk about trying to take advantage of the Ron Paul Revolution.

A Two-Party Death Grip!
by Chuck Baldwin
February 15, 2008

It is time to say it: the two major parties hold a death grip on the American people. Instead of representing the people, both the Republican and Democrat parties are bought and paid for by special interest groups and multinational corporations. Neither party pays any attention to the U.S. Constitution but both are largely marching in lockstep toward bigger and bigger government. Both Republicans and Democrats eagerly sacrifice what's good for the country for what's good for the party. As they now exist, neither major party deserves the support of patriotic Americans.

Furthermore, blind allegiance to the two major parties has created a "lesser of two evils" mindset that has warped the thinking and perverted the values of otherwise good people. What people would never accept in any other venue of society, they gladly and willingly accept from their chosen party's candidates.

People expect honesty and integrity from clergymen, bankers, doctors, businessmen, realtors, journalists, and even used car salesmen. Those same people, however, quickly tolerate and even excuse dishonesty and chicanery from their chosen political party.

Ever since George W. Bush became President of these United States, I have watched in disbelief as my fellow Christian conservatives have not only looked the other way as Bush repeatedly betrayed conservative/constitutional principles, but have willingly and enthusiastically supported his apostasy. Many of them are continuing to do the same thing by supporting the Big-Government, pro-amnesty, pro-gun control, pro-100-year war, grubby candidacy of John McCain. Good grief! Pat Robertson even endorsed the soiled candidacy of the liberal cross-dresser, Rudy Giuliani.

It is clear, therefore, that conservatives are more than willing to support and defend someone they know to be unfaithful to both their oath of office and to bedrock conservative principles. In other words, it does not matter a whit to them whether their candidate tells the truth, obeys the Constitution, or even demonstrates fidelity to the fundamental principles of liberty. If he has an "R" behind his name, conservatives will support him.

However, the same people who will justify dishonesty in the lives of their favored party's politicians would never accept such conduct from anyone else. Furthermore, many of these conservatives actually call themselves Christians; many are preachers. They preach and teach the virtues of honesty and integrity from the pulpit. They teach boys and girls to be honest and virtuous: to put the principles of right above personal wealth or benefit. Then, they turn around and support these lying politicians, many of whom are fornicating, greedy, arrogant reprobates. What is even more amazing is that they find no inconsistency with what they are doing.

In his Farewell Address, our first and greatest President, George Washington, eloquently lobbied the American people to guard against over-infatuation with political parties. Anyone reading his warnings today will be impressed with his insight and wisdom. Virtually everything he predicted has come to pass. Blind loyalty to political parties has corrupted our public institutions, blinded the hearts and minds of the American people, and opened wide the door to undue foreign influence.

If everyone who believes and teaches honesty and accountability would put it into practice when they walk into the voting booth, we could put a stop to this pathetic practice of electing dishonest and despicable people to high public office. Instead of hiding their own character and integrity under the bushel basket of party partisanship, voters could be proud of the fact that they are actually helping to set the ship of state aright by electing men and women of honesty and character.

Although I do not share this opinion, many people believe Abraham Lincoln to be one of America's greatest presidents (I think he was one of the worst). Personal opinion aside, it is a fact that Lincoln's election and subsequent influence upon this country was huge. Therefore, it is more than significant to realize that Lincoln was first elected from a four-person race with only 39% of the popular vote. Even more significant is the fact that at that time the Republican Party was a minor party, having been formed only a few years earlier. So much for the argument that a minor party cannot win a major election.

In practically every Presidential election, there are candidates from a variety of independent or "third" parties on the ballot. To ignore them merely because they are not Republicans or Democrats is absurd. Furthermore, it is more than obvious that the GOP will not tolerate principled candidates running for President. The recent Presidential candidacies of Duncan Hunter, Tom Tancredo, Alan Keyes, and Ron Paul make this abundantly clear.

While it may still be appropriate to support state and local Republican candidates, at the Presidential level, it is waste of time--and a wasted vote--to support the establishment Republican candidates. They are all Big-Government liberals. Yes, that includes Mike Huckabee.

I recommend that people seriously consider voting for a Third Party candidate this November. Start by taking a close look at the Constitution Party. http://www.constitutionparty.com/

The Constitution Party (the third largest political party in America) has a proven track record of fidelity to pro-life, conservative principles and to constitutional government. I further believe it is time for principled columnists and journalists such as Charley Reese to start encouraging voters to support principled, independent candidates.

The same goes for leaders of the Religious Right such as Tony Perkins, James Dobson, and Phyllis Schlafly. For them to continue to ignore good, independent candidates only serves to strengthen and augment the two-party death grip.

It is more than interesting that more people are currently registered as Independents than either Republican or Democrat. But it is not enough to register as an Independent, we must start voting Independent. Remember, the object is to elect honest and honorable leaders for our country, not to promote and protect the private agendas of the fat cats who control the two major parties.

It increasingly appears that the two major parties will force the American people to choose between the fascistic John McCain or the Marxist Barack Obama. Is that really the kind of choice we are willing to accept? Are we really content to continue to vote the "party line," no matter what damage results?

Let's face it, folks: the two major parties are strangling the life out of this country. It is indeed a death grip. Something drastic must be done, and it must be done NOW! Since it does not appear that either major party is salvageable (at the national level), it is up to "We the people" to take matters into our own hands.

This means bypassing the mainstream press and relying more on the Internet for our news and information. And it means bypassing the two major parties and voting for Independent candidates for President.

If Michael Bloomberg throws his hat in the Presidential ring, it will already be a three-man race. A strong independent conservative contender would make it a viable four-man race (just like 1860). At that point, anything could happen. But first, we must awaken to the reality of the two-party death grip, and then decide to do something about it. I am ready. How about you?

*If you enjoyed this column and want to help me distribute these editorial opinions to an ever-growing audience, donations may now be made by credit card, check, or Money Order. Use this link:
http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/donate.php
© Chuck Baldwin

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I see nothing here opposing Ron Paul..

sounds more like he's addressing the problems of the two party system. The two parties don't care about principles anymore, that's why they tried to marginalize Ron Paul. If anyone did damage to Ron Paul, it was the members of his own party who marginalized him - like Guiliani and McCain.

Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

What do you mean

You mean someone came here from the party and invited us there? Or do you mean a formal statement from the party was written in an article?? Also remember there was major confusion during that time about whether he had quit or not. MSM was misreporting and statements were made by him and hq that had to be interpreted.

Obvious

This is a blatantly obvious attempt at marginalizing/smearing the one true 3rd party candidate that most closely resembles Ron Paul and the platform of the Revolution, and that is Chuck Baldwin. This thread is coming from the guy (bedr1) that FLOODED the dailypaul with dozens of Bob Barr promoting threads here over the last few weeks, enough to piss quite a few folks off.

Please don't fall for this trickery and shilling. If there is ever a 3rd party candidate that the Revolution can, with a good conscience, get behind, Chuck Baldwin is that person. I still advocate taking over the GOP and who knows, perhaps Chuck will run Republican next time. Just whatever you do, don't fall for the whole CIA Barr bs. Barr is like the McCain of the LP and it shows.

The Libertarians are no better-

they let the "Conservative wing" anoint someone who voted for the Patriot Act- And don't tell me he voted for it so he could weaken it. That's no excuse for obliterating the Bill of Rights.

Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Don't Even Try

to make it seem like the Constitution Party is trying to dis
the RP Freedom Movement - in your lame attempts to try to promote
Barr - while it is still too early (until Sept) to fully support a candidate...
other than RP - I would guess that the vast majority of RP supporters
may vote for Baldwin. So to you I say screw the LP and the ass they
are riding.

everyone is on to you and your little cronies - I would never vote for anyone
you are promoting.

Couldn't have said it better

Couldn't have said it better myself. There is a huge push all across the net to go with Barr and to ignore Baldwin because he doesn't have *name recognition*. Obama has the most name recognition so should we vote for him? NO. We vote based on principle and integrity, neither of which Barr has. They are scared that Baldwin will gain momentum as he almost directly correlates to Ron Paul and the platforms of the Revolution. He wants out of the UN, end the Federal Reserve, medical marijuana is a states rights issue, a NON interventionist foreign policy, and the list goes on and on. If there ever was a 3rd party that the Revolution could get behind it would be the Constitution Party.

Thank you for saying so eloquently

what I would have liked to express so well.
.
Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

http://blog.wired.com/27b...

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/05/former-georgia.html

"I think there would be a natural inclination on the part of (Texas Republican congressman) Ron Paul supporters to support my candidacy," says Barr in an interview. "Ron is not really an active candidate right now."

hrmmmm sounds like CIA Barr is the one trying to f**k over Ron Paul.

Ha Ha Neoconned nice try - But this post is from May

Barr never said Ron quit, and it wasn't on Feb 15th like Baldwin and the CP

At least Neoconned showed his proof... You however didn' produce

any for your statement . Should we still be awaiting yours? So that we are able to measure your proof?

Did you see it Katie

There it is at the top

Well MyThought adjustment

didn't need to change after all. I am a republican of 30 yrs, but KNOW that this neocon so called GOP ISNOT in anyway "Conservative" and should not in any way be thought of in this manner. We The People here at the Daily Paul know this to be truth. Our chosen leader Ron Paul KNOWS this to be true and has advocated that We take BACK the GOP party, NOT that We take over the GOP party. There IS a difference as there was a reason for Ron Paul running on the GOP ticket. Sadly in our country today there are only 2 parties that get any serious attention. While I will state that I havenot heard very much of Bob Barr, I have read only strong support for Ron Paul come from Chuck Baldwin. Being a Ron Paul supporter I am always open for other peoples views and do enjoy hearing others views, therefore I am able to measure not what one says, but what one does to adhere to the American citizens voice.

Any Links that you might have for any proof

to your statement?. I am open to valid thought adjustment.

will get you one from my email

stand by will have to sort through them

I believe there is a thread

I believe there is a thread for the various 3rd parties and posts pertaining to them. Please post there so we can keep the Daily Paul nice and tidy.

I am with you

except for that horse thing, I like animals ;)
The Libertarians are no better in my opinion. Both groups displayed the worst attributes of party politics when a unified front would have been so useful.

Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.

CP all over the dailypaul pushing thier party

I am a Republican not a third party member, I still believe we can take the party back in 4 years. I an concerned about a plan B if Dr Paul does not win at the convention

I have actually seen more

I have actually seen more Barr postings here than CP to be honest. Most of them coming from you bedr1. In the future, could you please adhere to posting things about 3rd parties in their respective threads so as to keep the Daily Paul forums nice and tidy.

Neoconned, it wasn't my idea to post about 3rd parties

You were among the few that wanted a single post about Barr, this is not a post about Barr - I never said anything about 3rd parties. In addition, I am not going to single post to Barr when noone else is - it was clearly stated that if if everyone would push to a common thread and I agreed out of respect for the DailyPaul, but obviously as you can see no one else respects that idea of a single thread as they are not posting on the single thread.