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Please Stop Calling Everyone Trolls

Geeze guys whatever happened to accepting that other people may think differently than us? We went over to all the other Republican candidates forums when their candidates dropped out of the race because we thought they might like to hear about Ron Paul. How is this any different? So some people may think Barr is a good Ron Paul candidate. Why get mad at them? Is our own position so weak it can't withstand debate? You are all being closed minded. Let people talk about it if they want, it certainly is applicable to the revolution if Barr was affected by it enough to claim he's a Ron Paul sort of guy. We should be proud. Stick to your guns about Ron Paul if you want, I know I am. I just wrote to the LP and told them I'm never coming back because they nominated Barr, but that's my choice. Let's have it out and discuss Barr instead of alienating Paulites who want to talk about him. Calling EVERYONE a damn troll all the time doesn't solve anything. It's a fear tactic and name calling and it's the refuge of the weak. If you don't want to talk about Barr, then don't post or read the threads. Even by complaining about it you add to the cacophony.




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I agree. Debate is good, but not that.

It's necessary that we Paul supporters work out who is most rational to support for the general election, since Paul will not be a candidate.

Debate is one which presidential candidate it makes sense for us to support is good. But calling people trolls, threatening them, or hurling profanity at them because they're discussing this is absurd. It seems to be coming from little kids on the site. At least I hope it's not adults.

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Barr's GLOWING support and admiration of Paul: http://youtube.com/watch?v=lKt2s0LjUHY Dr. Paul says Barr is an ally (http://www.newsweek.com/id/139448/page/1)
and would do "a very good job" as president (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5YaqKf-y

I agree with the general sentiment

But I figure it is more like we all have days when we are the troll... - et us all strive to rise above our inner troll - lol!

Truth exists, and it deserves to be cherished.

Yes, we've all been trollish

Yes, we've all been trollish in the past. Forgive me my transgressions. :)

"The casualty of partisanship is objectivity."

shut up ya troll! as for me

shut up ya troll!

as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD

SIERRA, I am beginning to

SIERRA, I am beginning to believe you label anyone a troll who doesn't agree with you.

"The casualty of partisanship is objectivity."

it was joke you know

it was joke you know .....lol..... get it?

as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD

My bad. That is really funny

My bad. That is really funny actually. Sorry. :)

"The casualty of partisanship is objectivity."

here is just one of our events.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHco0jrT7yc

Its about waisting time Your thinking of it about Bob Barr I could care less but there are going to be cameras there and since when has the Revolution set back and missed a chance at being on the camera to promote freedom. I'm done talking to you about it set back and protest vote all you want this site is going to die anyways once Ron Paul doesn't win the nominations you can set back and make post about how you wish Ron Paul would have won and wait for the police to come take away your children like the FLDS people who you loath and do not care if every God given Right was stripped from them. Sorry nothing Ron Paul here anymore it doesn't matter what the name of the site is the spirit is gone. that pretty sad. I'm wondering really how many of you are even Ron Paul supporters I find nothing Ron Paul in you. The word troll would be a compliment in this case.

There is plenty Ron Paul

There is plenty Ron Paul here, true_believer. Sometimes we need to discuss it and fight for it to keep it. Don't stress about it, we need all the people we can get here.

"The casualty of partisanship is objectivity."

The funniest part is me and Bed1 are both delegates

we are both part of Ron Pauls precinct leaders program and both walked our precincts and other precincts We have been part of the nation paint the town Ron day we have done more parades and gun shows than I care to think about right now. we have stood out on street corners in freaking 0 degree weather in the snow holding Ron Paul signs we we are the ones to actually come up with the national Will work for freedom campaign. We put up 5 billbards in our city. jeez there is so much more its not even funny So no Me and him don't have to prove ourself to you weve already done that we are what Ron Paul is all about we know what he wants we've been here from the beginning. Its the people that are holding there positions of I won't budge from my cushy little chat room and make a move cause then I'll have to actually do something other than set here and chat all day. See this movement was never meant to get bogged down in a stail mate. You are worshiping the man and throwing away the message. You really think your all going to set here on daily paul and people are going to just come rolling in and say Hey I'm here please convert me. I don't think so this is nothing but political suicide and it doesn't help Ron Pauls movement it kills it.

I know the feeling.

When I'm not on the computer I am out spreading the word. Our meetup where I am from have taken measures to ensure that we get our county back in 2012.

Find out if you have a local militia - http://www.uaff.us/

Real Patriots for 9/11 truth -- http://patriotsquestion911.com/

ron paul says we will all

ron paul says we will all continue the revolution in different ways. I think the time to talk about it is probably after the republican convention, but I think your heart is is the right place.

So let me get this

So let me get this straight.
The media talks about bob barr and then naively guesses RP supporters are going to back him and we are not allowed to talk about it? One thread would be enough however...

:)

:)

"The casualty of partisanship is objectivity."

might I point your attention to this part of the rules

Therefore, don't trash other candidates, don't use bad words, etc. Keep your focus on the good and the positive and on hope.

aaahhhuumm Adam 1mc you might want to read the rules

before you take them out and use them like a sword here they are.

Feel free to post your comments, links and anything else you'd like the world to know about here. I ask that you follow these loose guidelines:
1) Even though this is an unofficial site, you are still representing Dr. Paul in the eyes of the public. Please don't write anything that Dr. Paul himself wouldn't say or wouldn't approve of, or that would reflect badly on Dr. Paul or the campaign. Therefore, don't trash other candidates, don't use bad words, etc. Keep your focus on the good and the positive and on hope.
2) ALWAYS spell check and grammar check your work before posting. The new Firefox has a built in spell checker. Misspelled words get a red underline, and if you right click on them, you get some options from a built-in dictionary.
3) Please do not post the text of entire articles on other sites. Feel free to post a short intro, and then a link to the original article. Unfortunately, YouTube videos cannot be embedded in the forum, but feel free to link to them. Just copy and paste the address, and it will turn into a link automatically.
4) I can and will delete inappropriate comments and ban disruptive users. This includes blatant commercials, excessive profanity, personal attacks on other users, multiple identical postings on different threads, EXCESSIVE USE OF CAPITAL LETTERS.
Please be nice and follow Dr. Paul's living example of kindness, respect and humility. Let me know if you have any questions.
I set this up to be an open forum for the honest discussion of ideas and the search for truth. In order for this to work, everyone must play by the rules and respect the community. While I don't want to get into the habit of banning people or deleting posts and / or comments, if you don't respect the community, then you are not welcome here.
Any of the following will be sure to get you banned without warning:
Engaging in flame wars or personal attacks on other members, racist remarks, posting material completely unrelated to the campaign or the presidential race, bumping your own thread to keep it on the front page, posting the same non-related comment on multiple threads to promote your website or event, blatant advertising. If you cannot consistently spell or check your grammar, you may also be banned. Sorry. Posting here is a privilege, not a right.
In the end, anything I decide that reflects poorly on Dr. Paul and/or sullies the good and peaceful name of Ron Paul supporters is not welcome here. At the end of the day, this is my house. I set it up to honor, respect and promote Ron Paul's bid for the Presidency. Play fair and you're welcome to stay. Do not abuse what is offered.
Welcome aboard a magical journey!
Best regards,
Michael Nystrom
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You break more of them than anyone here.
As for your smart ass comment to the maker of the thread which was not very Ron Paul like. which was:

You never answered the question. Do you respect the property rights of others?

I have one question back to you.
do you?

If you come into my home and started bossing everyone around I would throw you out. Thats not to respectful of my position as the owner of the property not to respectful to my guest either. before you whip out the rules and cast stones I recomend you become perfect and follow every one of them or it kind of loses its sting dontcha think?

Rules? That's funny.

Rules mean nothing if they are not enforced. Let's make another rule, you cannot ignore the rules. Yea, that will teach them.

seems as if bedr1 could

seems as if bedr1 could stand to read these.

My view is this

This is a Ron Paul website.

Coming on this site with a clear agenda, that is swarming, overt, and obvious(which it is) to attempt to swerve the Ron Paul people away to another candidate from another political party entirely, before the RNC convention, is BEYOND THE PALE.

Here's a word of advice to the Barr people.

You have your own website, and if we feel so inclined, we'll go over and visit it.

In case you haven't noticed, our thrust at this time is to promote Dr Paul, who is still running in primaries, and will be at the convention, where we hope to have considerable support from our members.
Attempts to steal members from this website prior to the convention shows utter contempt for this movement.

If you like Barr, go support him. Over there.
We have a candidate, and we'll support Ron Paul over here.
Maybe if things change after the convention, some people may have some other plans to change candidates, including a possible Ron Paul endorsement of sombody else at that time.
Jumping the gun right now to carve support off of Ron Paul to give to a substantially lesser-quality candidate like Barr is a non-starter.

And, regarding some of the claims I've seen from some, about being the "old guard" is laughable to me.
How many of you started into this movement in 1976, while having a conversation with a friend in a quiet corner of the Olympia restaurant in Washington DC, and being handed a copy of "None Dare Call It Conspiracy", under the table, and have been working virtually alone for the last 32 years? Yes, "pre-internet", small circle of influence method.
Well, I did, so spare me the "old guard" rhetoric.

I for one...

love to read your posts as they are always articulate, well thought out and informative. Your synopsis of elite's satanic beliefs was the best and most concise extemporaneous prose that I've seen here and I take this opportunity to tell you as I lost track of where it went.

Thanks again.

I for two

love your post as you are able to pull right back on the point of issue instead of the attempts made to spin what is going on.

Sailette44

Thank you for your nice comments, which are very gracious!

I'm happy if anything I write is well-received.

Hey T, Do You Have a Link To The Above Referenced Post ?

...or was it burned at the stake during the flagger's reign of terror.

I too enjoy your Old Guard insight

Ha ha interesting Big T sounds like you are biased

Everything against Barr, what about Baldwin?

But lets make it clear - From what I can tell most of the Barr people are old time Daily Paul people that have been here for along time. I am not saying all, but alot. I did not come here from anywhere, and I resent that you are trying to make that connection since I have been on the Daily Paul a hell of lot longer than you.

Obviously, you didn't read the original post, which not at all discussed or mentioned about taking support away from Ron Paul. The original Post simply asked for an alternative and to shadow campaign for that alternative if Ron Paul did not get the Republican Nomination, with full support for Ron Paul all the way through St. Paul.

bedr1

I simply consider this activity to be extremely poorly timed and counterproductive. It's not a Barr or Baldwin thing. I'm not wild about Barr, and I hardly have looked into Baldwin, because I think 3rd party candidacies are not the way to go. I like the RP Revolution because it attempts to make a change to the major party structure which commands most of the voting public to one side or the other. This is what needs to be done, to win. And yes, it's very hard, corrupted, and perilous. I think RP conveyed this to us by his stance, and I concur with his wisdom on the issue.

It's no secret that these other parties have their candidates. We all know it.
We also know that RP is not likely to receive the nomination from the GOP, and that he will probably issue some sort of endorsement when the time is correct.
At that time, people can make their moves, whether it be to "Plan B" or whatever.
The time for this discussion is then, IMO.
There is still alot to focus on between now and September.

If, the DP people want to move over to Barr, or whomever, at that time, it will likely happen at that time, and probably in a relatively mass action.
In the meantime, I think it would behoove the other candidates and their supporters to gain additional support from wherever else they can get it, so as to improve the overall final number, in expectation of some improved numbers if/when RP makes his endorsement.

I think Barr/Baldwin are going to have to stand on their own 2 feet between now and then. I wouldn't be expecting mass donations or support from Ron Paul Revolutionaries on a large scale unless and until one of them gets a nod from Ron Paul after the convention in September.

I must say BigT

You and your 9/11 kooks do more harm for freedom than the Bob Barr trolls.

Just an opinion.

We all have our roles.

Ahhhh, 9/11 kooks is it?

I guess you see yourself as the bastion of freedom...

Kook?

How does believing that 911 was an inside job make you a kook? Thats just a slur that it ooften directed towards people when you are losing an argument or dont have an substanitive facts to back up what you are saying.

I apologize for the slur.

I did not intend it to be.
I consider myself a kook.
A keeper of odd knowledge.

We all have our roles.

That was a nice spin,

It reminded me of this clip. >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-2c24qpri4 :-P

What you believe too be true, is true too you...

What you believe to be true, is true to you... "until you change your mind"