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Lisbon Treaty - Ireland decides

I'm a Ron Paul supporter currently in Ireland, and I'm not sure if we should vote yes or no for the Lisbon Treaty. My gut reaction is to vote no because big government is always bad, but i have not come to a definite conclusion, partly due to the incoherent nature of the treaty.

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Vote No

Having grown up in Ireland (Drogheda) I can tell you I have seen Ireland grow and prosper - from the days of socialism when RTE owned all media, to today with Capitalism and prosperity. The Lisbon Treaty will be a step back in the direction of socialism and lead to a loss of freedom and prosperity. Keep the Irish tradition alive and fight for freedom.

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Propaganda

Terrible propaganda in the paper today, the Irish Independent. "Unemployment is way up! The dole queue's are rising! And many fear a No vote will make this worse". I didn't spend a lot of time reading it so I can't really say for sure but it seemed all pushing for the Yes vote in that paper. And a big advertisement for a Yes vote.

Punjabimuda is right. It is incoherent. I think it is probably designed that way.....

"What does conservatism today stand for? It stands for war. It stands for power. It stands for spying, jailing without trial, torture, counterfeiting without limit, and lying from morning to night."

Lew Rockwell

Does Ireland

feel their voting system is reliable; I hope so, unlike our electronic machines here that can be hacked and no paper trail. From article " Irish votes likely to sink EU treaty per polls ". "Ireland, uniquely in the Eupopean Union, is constitutionally bound to stage referendums on EU treaties, meaning that less thn 1% of EU population of more then 450 million has the power to determine the fate of the European treaties" Vote against it while you still have the right to vote. We will be rooting for you guys. What does it have to do with us? The NWO has to do with us all that is why the word world is in it.

Come on Irish! My roots are

Come on Irish! My roots are from there and I pray that you make the wise decision. Don't let the French or any other EU super power come and threaten you, don't disappoint yourselves. I'm not surprised that the left-wing parties are supporting "Yes" because they want to try and kill capitalism so they see it as an anti-capitalist vote. Please show that freedom doesn't have a specific place on the political spectrum and there are Freedom Fighters on the left, right and in the middle. And if it gets dirty, fight clean and tough, don't be afraid to stand up to them. I'm proud to have Irish blood and you have my 100% support because you'll need every ounce of enthusiasm. Outscore Yes big time tomorrow!!!

You and your fellow Irish

You and your fellow Irish Patriots should stand true to your proud history of fighting against tyranny! Tell all you countrymen we support them in saying no to this fascist treaty because that's what it is despite the pretty dress and lipstick they try to put on it!

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This is a very crucial vote

that could have a major impact on the NWO plans. You guys are being browbeaten to vote yes to something that is hard to read and understand for a reason. It is a linchpin for further erosion of sovereignty for all of you over there. Please keep us informed of any new developments before the vote takes place. Please tell everyone you can how important the NO,NO, NO vote is.

When is the vote?!!!??

how long now? :|

In two days we will know the results

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Posted June 6th, 2008 by Pieter

PLEASE TELL THEM HERE TO VOTE NO!

http://www.irish-friends-vote-no-for-me.org/

I am in Ireland now

And I heard on Sunday that the No vote had risen 6 points to 34 or 36 while the Yes is still on 42. Also, on Sunday there was a plane flying round Dublin with "Don't score an own goal (don't score a point against yourself), Vote Yes". And I had two people try to give me "vote Yes" leaflets. I wonder who is paying for that? If the EU 'pays'?

The Yes signs outnumber the No signs by about 2:1 although I saw more No signs had been put up yesterday (they are everywhere on the streetlight poles) and several had been ripped off (No signs only) and were on the ground or just torn. Those were the paper ones, the thicker cardboard ones were still up, although some had been folded in half, trying to hide it. Dirty tricks! I saw one Yes sign that had been written on.

The socialist and labour parties are encouraging a Yes vote and Sinn Fein (political part of the IRA or maybe less closely associated than that, I don't really know) are encouraging a No vote. And the other No signs don't seem to have names on them. One says 'People died for your freedom'.

I did see some people yesterday holding No signs and signs about Raytheon and the massacre at Qana in Lebanon in 1996. What this has to do with the EU is beyond me.

"What does conservatism today stand for? It stands for war. It stands for power. It stands for spying, jailing without trial, torture, counterfeiting without limit, and lying from morning to night."

Lew Rockwell

Vote NO, hon...

The freedom lovers of the world must help one another out, stick together and stay strong...

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Think of it as a contract

Would you sign a contract that you didn't understand or seemed to be less than clear to you on purpose? This is how they have been able to enslave us with catch phrases that sound wonderful but before you sign up you better read the proposal even the fine print. Peace

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Hilarious: Even the Irish Comissioner hasn't read the Treaty!

"There is just one area in which those in favor of the EU Constitution have failed just as completely as their opponents: no one has managed to make clear to the Irish people what is actually in the controversial document. At best 250 of Ireland’s 4.2 million citizens have read the complete text, estimates Ireland’s European Commissioner Charlie McCreevy. Even he himself made do with a summary."

http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,558893,00....

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Vote no pls.

Save us from the socialistic EU.

How Ireland can once more save Europe from the Dark Ages

http://www.sbpost.ie/post/pages/p/story.aspx-qqqt=TOM+MCGURK...
(great article)

Closing papragraphs:
The arrogance and dishonesty of the Yes campaign, too, have been deeply depressing, as if somehow the need for workers’ rights, charters of fundamental rights, an end to cross-border sex trafficking, climate change and global warming somehow cannot be dealt with except in the context of Lisbon. Such nonsense is mere camouflage for the fundamental structural change between citizen and state that Lisbon is creating.

Over and beyond all of this, there is the growing tyranny of Europe’s obsession with environmental and gender politics, its secularisation and multicultural agendas, its interference with national immigration policies and, above all, its failure to combat the relentless transformation of our society into a mere marketplace. Imagine a future in a Euro superstate almost entirely at the mercy of free market forces.

Come to think of it, if we defeat this referendum, it won’t be the first time that the Irish rescued Europe from the Dark Ages. I am pro-European, but I also want to remain primarily an Irish citizen, not a mere statistic in a European superstate. Therefore, I am voting No.

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"The essence of freedom is the proper limitation of government". ~ Founding Fathers

no

Paul Gallagher, Attorney General of Ireland - with Ireland now set to anull the Treaty of Lisbon with a No vote, will Gallagher be asked to somehow find a legal way to change the vote from No to Yes (if he is that way inclined)?
this was taken from the prisonplanet.com site

Funny,

he is with the Bilderbergers this week-end.

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Great news

GO IRELAND! You rock. Let freedom ring. They want a global government. I say we give them a global "we the people". Don't give away your peoples freedom. You will regret is forever. Stay true to "YOUR" country. You are SOVERIEGN! stay that way. Don't be turned into just one of the 6 billion world sheep with no identity. You are "THE PEOPLE OF IRELAND" stand proud.

good news

THE LISBON Treaty could face a shock rejection with the No side now in the lead, according to the findings of the latest Irish Times /TNS mrbi poll.

It will take an unprecedented swing in the last week of the campaign for the treaty to be carried.

The poll shows the number of people intending to vote No has almost doubled to 35 per cent (up 17 points) since the last poll three weeks ago, while the number of the Yes side has declined to 30 per cent (down 5 points).

The number of undecided voters is still a significant 28 per cent (down 12 points) while 7 per cent won't vote.

source: http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/frontpage/2008/0606/1212696...

Also visit http://boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1069. It is widely discussed there.

Go with your gut....It's 98%

Go with your gut....It's 98% right all the time.

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No joke! Read this article: http://www.thenewamerican.com/node/7930

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Oceania,

here we come!

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Yep

it was

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Vote NO

Please keep Ireland free from tyranny. Irishmen and women are natural born fighters of freedom. Please, think of your children's futures!

Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

The EU crap must be tossed

The EU crap must be tossed into the garbage pile.

come on ireland....

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