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Sex Pistols support or pick-on Ron Paul on the Tonight Show?

Submitted by enjoiskaterguy on Wed, 10/31/2007 - 03:35
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I noticed as Johnney Rotten (John Lyden) who is the singer of the Sex Pistols was in between lyrics he said a couple of things to Ron Paul. The first was I think was...

"Hello Mr. Paul"

and the second...

"So when are you planning to get out of Iraq"

I can't really tell if the Sex Pistols were applauding Dr. Paul or just shuving it to him because he is a politician.....I mean come on, Ron Paul is the closest thing to an Anarchist presidential candidate out there being a libertarianistic Constitutionalist. Plus his views on ending the war on drugs and guns rights I'm sure is something all anarchists agree on.

If you think just because the Sex Pistols were singing a song about Anarchy doesn't reflect their views, then think again. Mr. Johnney Rotten, I would say, has had a pretty consistant background on anarchy. He(with the rest of the band) even publicly denied the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame award...while bashing the industry within their statement.

So...your thoughts on what happened?

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Johnny Rotten endorsed Ron Paul

Submitted by gingerpartington on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 10:42.

He said,"When are we getting out of Iraq?"

This was greeted by much enthusiasm from the audience. Johnny also greeted "Mr. Paul" and shook his hand at the end of the set.

Just in case this wasn't clear to you.

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Sex Pistols endorsement? Sounds like it!

Submitted by photoshopwiz on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 10:41.

This just in...2 hour ago :

Never mind the polls, Paul may have Sex Pistols endorsement

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Ron_Paul_get_shoutout_from_Sex...

"But what made the broadcast magic — and Leno himself noted it was fitting — was the Sex Pistols singing 'Anarchy in the UK' right after the Paul interview, with Johnny Rotten, after singing 'I want to be in anarchy,' adding a characteristically menacing but implicitly supportive 'Hello, Mr. Paul.'

Has to be somewhere in the forum archives...

Submitted by photoshopwiz on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 11:03.

Just now I searched in vain for a previous separate forum that did a most EXCELLENT job in explaining how Johnny was truly showing him respect.
It went into all this really great detail about gestures, etc.

Dern...I really wish I could have found this for you!

Johnny Rotten is an American Citizen

Submitted by FlyingComic on Wed, 10/31/2007 - 14:40.

I haven't seen this commented upon yet (maybe I missed it), but during the taping of the promos, Johnny Rotten mentioned that he is now an American citizen.

it's the alternative generation...

Submitted by kass on Wed, 10/31/2007 - 13:16.

i used to be a HUGE fan of the sex pistols, and other bands like the dead kennedys...

and with that i've always thought A LOT of the punk bands back in the 80's had A LOT of political views that were different than the mainstream...

with that said i've always thought of jello biafra as in the same leagues as johnny rotten...

and with that said they've since they do come out of the same generation, that the two above mentioned probably share A LOT of the same politcal views...

so dunno if u all know that mr. biafra ran for govenor of california against arnie back in 2004...

and here's a youtube clip of one of his rally's...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mBU2IjiNg0

doncha think that it closely resemebles our dr. pauls message???

which makes me believe even more that johnny, once exposed to dr. pauls message, would have no other option but to support him.

You're dead on about Johnny and Biafra

Submitted by mikeinatlanta on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 04:56.

funny how the "nerds" are Pistol and DK fans;)

Bands for Ron Paul

Submitted by 11thHour on Wed, 10/31/2007 - 11:30.

If you love music and Ron Paul, you have to go to myspace and check out "bands for Ron Paul" Alot of big names on there!

Diversity

Submitted by Ron_is_Real on Wed, 10/31/2007 - 11:19.

Ron Paul is at the hub of so many dirverse types of people who all want and need the same thing - FREEDOM to be THEMSELVES. Many people in this are long time Republicans who have finally found somebody who will actually uphold their hopes because Ron Paul LIVES this stuff. The comments I am seeing here reflect a lack of understanding of left wing sentiment from the position of right wing linear thought. Simply put, the song they sang last night was the biggest honor they could share with Ron Paul because his agenda will tear down the things this song is against. Mr. Johnney Rotten hailed Ron paul last night as Mr. President back stage. I am just wondering when Neil Young will get behind this whole thing. THAT would bring in MILLIONS of people and a mass of energy!!!!

Sorry I am an old punk rocker myself

Submitted by TimC on Wed, 10/31/2007 - 10:23.

I love PIL and Jonny Lydion.. I am no Anarchist but love the music.. JL is awesome..witty also.. anyway I see no negitive conotations...

Lew Rockwell mentioned that

Submitted by Brian Bailey on Wed, 10/31/2007 - 09:56.

Lew Rockwell mentioned that behind the scenes Rotten referred to the good doctor as "President Paul".

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Personally, I thought it was great!

Submitted by JeffnDallas on Wed, 10/31/2007 - 09:39.

I didn't see ANY negative connotations with JR's comments or gestures to Ron during the song. I think the cordial handshake between the two at the very end of the show said it all :-)

I must confess, my gut

Submitted by phoobaar on Wed, 10/31/2007 - 10:09.

I must confess, my gut reaction was that Lydon was mocking Paul. I'm aware of Lydon's politics, so it seemed odd to me, but you can never put anything past "Johnny Rotten." He is notoriously hard to peg; I just figured he was in one of his "all politicians are lying scum" moods and was "taking the piss."

Either way, it hardly matters. It's not as though the Sex Pistols have a nationwide following of sheep looking to them for voting cues, like an Oprah Winfrey does.

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ditto

Submitted by Prof de la Paz on Wed, 10/31/2007 - 10:15.

I had the same reaction. Probably because Johnny's public personum is that of a jerk. I also didn't care for the performance either, but so what? De gustibus non disputandum. The Sex Pistols seem to like money and they aren't stealing it. It's a successful act and I suppose many of them are perfectly nice folks.

My guess, based on anecdotal history, was that Johnny was being sincerely supportive of The Good Doctor, public personum notwithstanding.

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Video ?

Submitted by beelzebush66 on Wed, 10/31/2007 - 09:20.

Does anyone have a link for the Sex Pistols part of the show ?

Thank You

Submitted by beelzebush66 on Wed, 10/31/2007 - 09:49.

heres one of the revolution at the Dem debate ...http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2452873209367959824&q=ron+paul&total=13158&start=0&num=10&so=1&type=search&plindex=7

FYI

Submitted by Politeia on Wed, 10/31/2007 - 14:44.

You don't need that whole huge long URL, just this will do it:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2452873209367959824

Funny, that's a Google Video URL, but it goes to a YouTube page; the actual original URL is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fWkz9yM5vA

When you see an "&" in middle of the URL after a long number (as in the Google address) or a YouTube alphanumeric, it's generally safe to assume that the & and everything following is unnecessary to get to the page.

I really don't care for

Submitted by Politeia on Wed, 10/31/2007 - 07:44.

garbage like the "Sex Pistols", but from reading the article linked below (thanks, Babyhuey, thought I'd move your link up to the top where it'll be seen) it seems clear that "Johnny Rotten" is smarter than he lets on, as apparently he was at the 2000 LP nominating convention:

http://www.dailybruin.ucla.edu/archives/id/788/

Among those attending the convention was former Sex Pistols lead singer John Lydon – also known as Johnny Rotten. One of the band’s most famous songs is “Anarchy in the U.K,” which might explain Lydon’s attraction to the Libertarian Party’s ideals.

Entertaining a small crowd gathered around him, Lydon said the Libertarian Party offers a “viable alternative” to America’s two-party system.

So I'd say he was, in his own charming fashion, supporting Ron Paul. And Dr. Paul handled it perfectly, smiling and shaking hands.

I saw him there in Anaheim

Submitted by Stinger44 on Wed, 10/31/2007 - 12:03.

I attended the 2000 LP Convention and was walking through the lobby of the Anaheim Convention Center when I saw Johnny just standing there watching all the goings-on. Being someone who was really into the Punk genre some 25 yrs ago, I did a real double take. "Holy cow, that's Johhny Rotten!" I said to my brother who was with me.

I'm sure that Johnny is in full support of RP's campaign.

a prediction?

Submitted by bradleyq on Wed, 10/31/2007 - 05:50.

Hello Mr.Paul? So when are you planning on getting out of Iraq? Sounds like a prediction or wishful thinking to me. How many times have we referred to Ron Paul as the next president?
It will be interesting to see how this pans out.
I am not an anarchist. I did not like what I saw of them at the WTO fiasco in Seattle. Not my style.
I understand that an anarchy (absence of the crown) is the opposite of a monarchy . I support them in that sense. But I am not sure what they are in support of other than breaking windows etc.
I have not seen the video as of yet but am looking forward to it.
Maybe the tonight show was trying to tie Ron Paul with anarchy. I dunno. But the truth will come out as it always does. And Ron Paul will shine as usual due to the lack of blood on his hands.
Ciao.

Go Ron Paul!

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many anarchists...

Submitted by Evan42 on Wed, 10/31/2007 - 08:16.

....technically, those of us who consider ourselves "anarchists" are "anarcho-capitalists". It's basically a strict adherence to the non aggression principle - and the demand that any gov't follow it as well. Read Murray Rothbard for a better description.

Anyone who would break windows that don't belong to them is breaking the non aggression principle and not an anarcho-capitalist.

Wouldn't that require more regard for legality?

Submitted by RonPauler on Wed, 10/31/2007 - 08:55.

For the government to practise restraint would require the highest regard for legality. After all, they have more guns as far as I know.

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Correct

Submitted by sarcasmo on Wed, 10/31/2007 - 08:25.

It's a good idea to be suspicious if the "mainstream" news media uses that term. It's not like they've demonstrated honesty in the past...

Anarchists I know are universally peaceful people who want to be left alone. What a concept.
JMR

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Submitted by Bootoil on Wed, 10/31/2007 - 05:02.

unless you are blind you can't help but see where that came from. johnny rotten, sex pistols- anarchy in the U.K, fuck the Queen, etc- was serving only one master when he called out RP on the tonight show- do you fool.s not realize it! tha whole damn thing was a set up to make him look fooliosh!! have you not figured out yet who and what you are dealing with? they seek to defeat you by making a mockery of you!!

Ron Paul set up?

Submitted by enjoiskaterguy on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 03:51.

Be sure to clarify on whom you speak of. If you like the Sex Pistols or not, that doesn't matter. To think that the network set up Ron Paul, Tom Cruise, and the Sex Pistols. I do know the curruption the media has on our society but I don't know if I would say that the Jay Leno show was "set up" so to speak.

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Give it a rest

Submitted by marlow on Wed, 10/31/2007 - 07:43.

You've already got your own thread pushing this BS. I dig conspiracies too but this interview was dynamite. Jay was cool. You're wrong. Take a lude dude.

marlow

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Submitted by bedr1 on Wed, 10/31/2007 - 06:52.

I consider myself politcally savvy and I didn't see that, and If I didn't see, I surely don't think the Leno audience saw it. If they were going to make a mockery, it would have been in plain sight and easy to understand. And if there was one person who would not go along with the establishment it would have been Rotten - so there is no way he was doing that for anyone.