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Barr & Root think they'll get the Revolution & $30 million

Barr & Root watched us in the Revolution raise over $30 million for Dr. Ron Paul. They noted that he was principled libertarian, who had a principled disagreement with the LP over abortion and the immigration issue (sort of, he never mentioned the Blue Card solution).

These two think that the Revolution will now come their way. Why? They reason that we have no where else to go.

My question to you is..... Is that true?

It seems to me that we in the Revolution have made a choice. I am now a Republican Delegate, working on the inside. It is kind of funny, we have Barr & Root two hard core conservatives working the inside of the LP while this long time libertarian works inside the Republican Party.

Nevertheless, I do not think or feel that we in the Revolution are going to get behind Barr & Root. I may be wrong on this,..... so let me know your thoughts.

Also, I was happy to see liberal Mike Gravel join the LP. I hope other liberals and progressives join the libertarian party and the movement. The more who are exposed to the principles of Life Liberty & Property and try to consistently apply them, the better.

Here is the ticket I wish to see....and perhaps we in the Revolution should just FORCE the issue. Make a money bomb for it, videos for it, posters, bumper stickers, banners...etc. Call it Monkey Wrenching the voters Paul/Ventura 2008

Think about it. It kicks butt! Ron Paul / Jesse Ventura 2008

Paul/Ventura beats hands down Obama/Hillary
Paul/Ventura beats hands down McCain/Lieberman
Paul/Ventura beats hands down Barr/Root

The down to earth integrity of both Paul & Ventura will win any General Election. We could even set up a INTERNET VOTE for the General Election. A virtual Race.... we could have all sorts of fun running with this...

You run with it too... Treg

Treg



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Barr's picture scares me. I

Barr's picture scares me. I have no desire to google his name. And his VP gave to Liebermann? yuck.

Jesse has a distinct chance to WIN a Senate seat in MN

I don't disagree that a Ron Paul Jesse Ventura ticket wouldn't be a WINNER but once again as Jesse says... it's a ballot access problem. In addition with the corrupt voting systems we need to have a movement... not just a few people... we need an army of people in key positions... like election supervisors for example.

We are currently beginning to expose the corrupt practices of the powers that be in the Republican party and we need do the same with the Democrats...

We have allot to do... to continue to get the world out, develop our network of communicating the truth to the average American, discrediting the corporate media, moving people into the system and continuing to raise the important issues one person at a time if necessary. We've got to continue to let people know there is another way... and they have to participate... 50 million people voted in the primaries... but theres another 200 million that didn't vote that could have!!!! We need to get those people fired up!

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Barr Never donated to Ron Paul in HIS LIFE. Heres his records

Bob Barr NEVER EVER DONATED TO Dr. Ron Paul in HIS LIFE

Check out the donation records.
after you see it try Chuck Baldwin in Florida and youll see he donated on December 16th Tea Party Day. Ofcourse not counting all the money he spent to for expenses to fly and travel accross the US to campaign for the Good Doc

Heres Barr's Donation record since 1996 till date

http://opensecrets.org/indivs/search.php?name=Barr%2C+Bob&st...

Since I made so many threads about Bob Barr I encourage someone else to write about this crap
Oh yeah and btw Barr's VP donated to Joe Lieberman and endorsed a McCain-Lieberman Ticket for POTUS
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Thanks NotOver

Real great freind and supporter. What do they think they are dealing with here a bunch of kids. No one is going to pull anything over on us and there aren't going to be any rocks left unturned. I will be away for a couple of days but keep up the good fight. Good find.

no thnk you fellow Conservative. you and most others stood up

for whats right when it was time to stand up for what's right. Well miss you victory. Have fun this weekend. No well leave no rocks unturned and no one will fool us again. United we stand Divided we fall. For that we also wont let anyone divide us
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"let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our freedoms & wealth are in jeoprady"
Ron Paul

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Freedom. Watch this video
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Pls donate here Ron Paul can still win
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I don't think even Ron Paul could raise another $30 Million...

Not without reaching out to a LOT of new folks.

There are a LOT of Ron Paul supporters who feel they were "burned" (ripped off? suckered? defrauded? bamboozled? or just disappointed?) by the way the campaign squandered money, AND the way that they continue to hold MILLIONS ($1 of nearly every $6 raised) and NOT campaign with it.

Certainly not everyone feels that way -- but a LOT of people do.

So I sincerely doubt that the people who DO feel that way will be donating to ANY candidates any time soon -- and even if they do donate, it will be with less money (if only because the economy is tightening up so much).

I doubt Barr & Root will be able to raise 1/10 the amount that Ron Paul did -- unless they resort to going after "deep pocket" donors and other shenanigans (purportedly Barr's own "leadership PAC" has a million or so sitting around).

If

I could I would donate even more to the Ron Paul campaign. luckily I didn't max out. A good thing for it allowed me to purchase great gear for the March on D.C. I see B&R getting money from their old buddies from the CIA and Neocon's hell bent on stopping this movement.

Not going to happen.

Barr will not get one WORTHLESS dollar of mine. RP knows we will research everyone who wants our support and make the correct decision if we decide to not write in Ron Paul.

I think Sabrin/Ventura would be a great idea for 2012. RP too, but I'm not sure if he'll be up for it then.

Only one problem

Dr. Paul says he won't leave the Republican party to run on a third party ticket. Jesse has stated it's too late for him to consider a presidential run. Back to the drawing board.

What I would LOVE to see is the LP and Constitutional parties working together behind a single set of candidates. Still, I doubt RP would endorse anyone outside the Republican Party and, that's unfortunate.

The only way your scenario can work is if RP were to accept either the LP or Constitutional Party nomination which have already been decided.

RP's unwillingness to run third party has eliminated some very interesting possibilities.

That could have happened if

That could have happened if they'd chosen better candidates for the Libertarian Party, but that opportunity is lost, as the Libertarian Party is in ideological meltdown.

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What part of the ideology

does he not agree with, since his conversion?

Or is it your position that his conversion to libertarianism is not sincere? If so, do you have evidence for the lack of sincerity?

write in ron paul

forget barr.

DO NOT WRITE IN PAUL!You

DO NOT WRITE IN PAUL!

You people just don't get it do you?

In almost every state you have to file as a candidate for your write-in votes even to be counted.

Ron Paul has flat out said HE WILL NOT run as an Indp., so please get over yourselves an accecpt that no matter how hard you want Ron to be on the ballot in November- HE WILL NOT BE ON THE BALLOT!

This gives you 2 options:

1- Sulk all the way to the polls, write in Ron Paul- and watch as McCain or Obama become our next President- without the Revolution getting any support.
2- Vote Barr/Root and see just what the Revolution can do. Sure Barr/Root is not the greatest ticket- but it is the best chance for Liberty we have.

You people may think that I am a "Troll", but I can guarntee that the 3 months before the election here in Ohio- I worked harder than half the people opn here to elect Ron.

I am only 17 years old- plese help the Revolution grow- support Barr/Root 2008......

Hey, kid. Have you heard of

Hey, kid.

Have you heard of the Patriot Act?

Have you heard of neoconservatives?

This ticket is tainted by BOTH.

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Hey, Kev. Have you ever

Hey, Kev.

Have you ever heard of change?

Maybe he made a bad choice. I refuse to use that agasint him, he is running on a Liberty platform NOW. He must have really had a change of heart because he had it pretty good in the Rpublican party.

You are one of those people who think this is only a Ron Paul Revolution when in reality iot is a freedom Revolution.

You have Blinders on right now, can you not see what we can do by supporting Barr/Root?

He is not that well known- what people will see of him, and what people will vote for him on is a pro- freedom agenda?

Is he worse than John McCain? I think not..........

Hey, Hen

If he has changed so much has he ever talked about repealing that bad choice he made? Haven't heard that come up yet. How many of you guys does he have over here working this site? You seem to be popping up all over the place.

HAHA

Your an idiot

I am a High School Junior from Central Ohio- I don't work for anyone. Do you think that Bob Barr hires little people to invade the daily paul? you are just so stuck on Dr. Paul, even when he has said it is time to MOVE ON! So please get off of your high horse and support liberty, the movement- not a specific person!

youre a naughty junior who deserves a spanking by his mom

Learn how to respect your elders kid.

Bob Barr is scum why the Hell would I donate to someone who never donated to Ron Paul in his life or even endorsed Ron Paul?
Dont tell me the intro for the CPAC speech. This scum bag never officially endorsed the Good Doctor
If you trust his conversion why not Trust Obama
For the sake of it even McCain is now promising to return the troops by 2013
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"let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our freedoms & wealth are in jeoprady"
Ron Paul

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Freedom. Watch this video
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Pls donate here Ron Paul can still win
http://www.dvds4delegates.com/

What?

B&R are recruiting high schoolers. What is he paying you in cigarettes? Booze? This is getting out of hand. I feel insulted that they expect us to roll over for a bunch of insolent high school whelps. Ron Paul welcomes you in from the cold hand of B&R if you desire. BTW Obama was here, he's looking for some kids who want to jump on his change bandwagon.

Hey, Kev. Have you ever

Hey, Kev.

Have you ever heard of change?

Maybe he made a bad choice. I refuse to use that agasint him, he is running on a Liberty platform NOW. He must have really had a change of heart because he had it pretty good in the Rpublican party.

You are one of those people who think this is only a Ron Paul Revolution when in reality iot is a freedom Revolution.

You have Blinders on right now, can you not see what we can do by supporting Barr/Root?

He is not that well known- what people will see of him, and what people will vote for him on is a pro- freedom agenda?

Is he worse than John McCain? I think not..........

Barr

If Barr understood anything about the Constitution he would have never voted yes on the Iraq war.

Being true to the Constitution means that no lies can fool you into ignoring it.

He is a plant by the elite to diffuse the movement. We will see more of them.

The "30 million" they are after is now flowing to Congressional races. And they will continue to flow in the years to come.

While many see the Presidency as the holy grail of this movement, we need to understand that the reason America is in the pickle it's in is because Congress has failed to uphold their oath of office.

The unitary Executive, preemptive war, the nanny state, civil liberties, all these things can be fixed with a Constitutionally honoring Congress.

Congress is supposed to be the "people's voice" in government, and the people have been derelict in their duty to monitor them. So Congress has been hijacked by Corporations and elitists.

It's time to take Congress back. Educate your neighbors, your friends that Congress belongs to them, and THEY are responsible for it's actions.

Im sorry NJforRP

But the Barr supporters will tell you Barr voted for the Patriot act and the war to stop them.
Do you see the logic?
Its a complex thing but nearly a million Iraqis and 4000 American soldiers had to die because of Barr and people like him. But no those people had to die to stop the war. Privacy for Americans and warantless searches and seizures because of Barr were only a means to stop them. Nice logic. I wonder if Bush and Rove supporters have the same logic?

Join a gang of bank robbers and once youre caught tell the judge I joined to stop them and talk sanity into them. See where that will get you
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"let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our freedoms & wealth are in jeoprady"
Ron Paul

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Freedom. Watch this video
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mhmbzE1TR0s
Pls donate here Ron Paul can still win
http://www.dvds4delegates.com/

Most importantly, the

Most importantly, the Patriot Act was enacted with Barr's help, and it is still doing our republic GREAT HARM! Barr's ineffectual "sunset provision" probably helped sell the concept to the small minority of Congressmen who have read more than 27 words of the Bill of Rights.

So Barr has betrayed us. Period. I'm tired of hearing his apologists spin his act of constitution betrayal.

As for Root, he's a bloody neo-con who donated to Joe Lieberman's campaign (and not to Ron Paul's, as many of us have).

So you have a traitor and a neo-con.

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thnks Kevin Exactly

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"let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our freedoms & wealth are in jeoprady"
Ron Paul

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Freedom. Watch this video
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mhmbzE1TR0s
Pls donate here Ron Paul can still win
http://www.dvds4delegates.com/

Bah

If I wanted to vote for Bar or Root I would have switched to the Libertarian Party. I did watch the LP convention on CSpan and was amazed at how American it felt until I saw Root talking. That guy is a snake in the grass just like all the other politicians we are trying to get away from. When I watched him speak I thought to myself different name same personality. That guy is no more for the cause of liberty than Kissinger. The LP will not get my support as much as I want to give it to them. They did have my support for about 30 minutes as I was amazed by the proceedings and transparency of the vote. They lost it as soon as I saw Root talking like a used car salesman.

How about NO MORE BARR

How about NO MORE BARR threads for them to post on!

i second that!!!! IM VOTING

i second that!!!!
IM VOTING RON PAUL DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will

Third that. I am voting for..well.. take a guess. Hint its Ron Paul.

Fourth that. I'm voting absentee and writing-in Ron Paul.

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