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Write-in's will not be counted and are worthless

A write-in vote is not worthless in States that do not have a Sore Loser Law, 14 I believe. All the loosing primary candidate has to do is file their intent to run as a write-in with the state election division for their votes to count. Check your state election laws and if a write-in is allowed contact the RP campaign to have the good Dr. file his intent to run as a write-in if he does'nt recieve the Republican nomination. Each state has it's own rules for write-in votes to count. Do your homework and then contact the campaign. For a write-in vote to count in the states that allow it, you have to follow their rules to the letter.

You have your assignment now Get er Done.

A properly done write-in can have a profound effect on the outcome of the election and send a strong message to the party leaders. Write-in RON PAUL. That was'nt hard now was it?

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So, have you been a poll-watcher?

I have, and guess what-they tallied the write in votes, even mickey mouse and donald duck. If you've been a poll watcher, did you wait after the polls closed to oversee the judge of elections counting the votes? You have to do that to see the votes counted.

if the law allows, complete

if the law allows, complete an absantee ballot and drive over the border for the day. again, I say if the law in your state allows.

define worthless

Voting my conscience is priceless to me. I like to sleep at night.

That's an excellent

That's an excellent comeback!

I'll be voting Constitution Party, but I respect people voting write-in Ron Paul. Those who vote their conscience rarely win elections...but voting against your conscience is a foolish act.

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RP has already said he won't run third party

He has a long history of doing what he says he will do and not going back on his word. He isn't going to run, he isn't going to file an intent to run, why is this so hard to grasp.

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a write-in vote is...

not a third-party. a third-party run would mean his name is on the ballot.

it's the same thing

we're just arguing semantics.

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Do Write-Ins or "Regular" Votes Even Matter?

TxRedneck touched on this in the comments down below...

Just as the primaries were essentially "beauty contests" and the actual voting was accomplished by delegates, are the November elections similar, in that it really depends on the Electoral College vote?

I know there have been close counts where either the "popular" vote or the Electoral College vote edged out the other...and I think it all pretty much hinged on what the Electoral College voted for.

So I'm guessing, just as we're flooding delegates with RP information now, we need to flood Electoral College members with Revolution thinking as well, even if RP is not officially in the running this fall. They need to know where the people stand, and that the mood of the country is definitely changing to no longer put up with neo-con and liberal chicanery.

Regardless, I'll keep my vote pledged for the good doctor, as I can pledge to no other in good conscience.

Dr. Paul has already said he will not file as a write in

Don't beg the guy. Obviously he wants you to vote for someone else.

Write-in

I was not aware that he made that statement. Can you verify that please. I know that Dr. Paul has stated that he has no plans to run as an Independent or a Third Party candidate. As a write-in his votes would be counted on the Republican column as a Republican vote.

Voluntary Association + Mutual Cooperation + 110% Personal Responsibility = 100% Individual Liberty

Voluntary Association + Mutual Cooperation + 110% Personal Responsibility = 100% Individual Liberty

No, SillyBee

He wants you to vote for HIM at the Convention.

We're not talking about the nomination

We're talking about the general election, after McCain is nominated.

Move Out of Country and Freely Vote!

Actually, if you move out of the country, then you can vote for whomever you want. The candidate does not even need to file with any state. Isn't that strange? Isn't that backwards?

By living in one of the United States, most people are restricted on whom they can vote for. But if you are a citizen living outside of the country or if you are in the military or uniformed services or a family member thereof and living anywhere in the world, including any of the United States, you can write in whomever you want - states rules don't matter.

Maybe everyone should move to Mexico and Canada right before the election to get the right to be free to vote for whomever they want.

We are no longer free.

Just another sign the US is a massively oversized bureaucracy full of endless, impossible laws to follow.

Until an actual plan B

Until an actual plan B becomes available all these speculative ideas are just a protest vote and all you can really do is debate which protest vote is the best. It one think to take the write-in posture and quite another to actually carry it out. Here is a list of states who will NOT be participating in your write-in campaign for there are far better protest vote choices.

ARKANSAS
The Land Of Opportunity
Write-ins are not allowed.
There will be no alternatives on the ballot.
HAWAII
The Aloha State
Write-ins are not allowed.
INDIANA
The Hoosier State
Write-ins are not allowed.
NEVADA
The Sagebrush State
Write-ins are not allowed.
NEW MEXICO
The Land of Enchantment
(Governor Bill Richardson being the exception)
Write-ins are not allowed for candidates who lost the primary.
OHIO
The Buckeye State
Write-ins are not allowed for candidates who lost the primary.
OKLAHOMA
The Sooner State
Write-ins are not allowed.
WASHINGTON
The Evergreen State
Write-ins are not allowed for candidates who lost the primary.

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Until an actual plan B

Adding Missouri to the eight states you have listed that still leaves 41 states where a write-in would be effective, although I think the number is closer to 14 states. 36 states is more than where the Constitutional Party has ballot status or the 28 states that the Libertarian Party has ballot status. Idaho gave Ron Paul 24% and "None fo the Above" 6%, 30% of Idaho's Republican Primary Voters rejected McInsane. Pennsylvania gave Ron Paul 16% of the vote. If a write-in vote gave Ron Paul 10 to 15% of the vote, or higher, it would have a devastating effect on the Republican Party. Which is not a bad thing. Paybacks are a bitch.

As stated in the following reply, absentee ballots are counted separate and all votes are totaled even if they are not counted for a candidate, they will show up as counted write-ins. Individuals in states that do not allow write-ins should be encouraged to vote absentee. Write-in votes for a candidate in states that allow it plus write-ins that are not counted for a candidate and the "None of the Above" votes where they are allowed may reach as high as 20 to 25% or higher. That would give a clear indication of the dissatisfaction with the MSM anointed candidates.

Voting for Barr or Baldwin will only delute the message that Dr. Paul has been articulating for the past 30 years.

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list incomplete

I can not speak for the other 40 states not listed, as I do not live in them, but as far as Pennsylvania goes, write in votes for President can not be counted.

Proof, four years old but still applies, :

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_262039.html

Indeed paybacks are a bitch

Indeed paybacks are a bitch and if the republican party completely implodes who do you suppose would fill the void?

IMO there should be no less that 5 parties and no more than 7 and also, not 6.

Or

No parties at all.

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"But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it."

from a meetup in florida

RON PAUL – RESTORE THE CONSTITUTION!
A Four Step campaign to be passed on to all RON PAUL and CONSTITUTIONAL supporters right down to every registered voter..

RON PAUL's lifelong support and defense of The Constitution cannot be permitted to falter in spite of the media's selective and deliberate omission of his Presidential Candidacy. Because special interests and socialists are the known enemies WE, THE PEOPLE, must use strategies that are legal and no nonsense..

Goal:

Institute a National RON PAUL WRITE-IN Campaign coupled with a very loud and very clear RESTORE THE CONSTITUTION DEMAND. Each unto itself has its benefits; combined, they have POWER! And WE, THE PEOPLE, had better act while we still can.

Here's the HOW-TO:

Step 1:

WRITE-IN RON PAUL in the Presidential Choice portion of any ballot! Simple, right?

WRONG! Unless there is a special provision within the polling district there aren't any write-in capabilities on electronic voting machines, even those that use PAPER ballots and immediately inserted into an electronic reader. Those readers simply will not accept a ballot with even a smudge or smear outside the designated vote area. WRITING-IN RON PAUL at the Polls, even Early Voting, just will not work..

Then how?

APPLY FOR AN ABSENTEE BALLOT! Call the County Clerk's Elections Office and request AN ABSENTEE BALLOT, simple as that. They are PAPER ballots, they are LEGAL ballots, and they MUST be counted and retained ensuring a PAPER TRAIL should a re-count become necessary, and THAT is a decided advantage toward our strategy. Any 'error' here or there DOES NOT invalidate the rest of the ballot - regardless of outright lies to the contrary - the remainder IS VALID AND MUST BE COUNTED. Repeat - Even a soiled ABSENTEE BALLOT has to be counted as a valid vote in the election..

Step 2:

WRITE-IN RON PAUL in the Presidential Selection area whether there is a space for it or not and you will have made your point loud and clear. All ABSENTEE BALLOTS must be placed inside special ballot/voting envelopes - which are put inside the voter identification envelope - and then inside the return envelope. Investing your Presidential vote in RON PAUL is a far greater investment in the Nation, because even though it will not count FOR him, it will count AGAINST the other choices. All the other candidates and their parties will get your message in no uncertain terms, and your vote will not be among the other taken-for-granted millions. Why and How are explained below..

In most states ABSENTEE BALLOTS cannot even be opened nor can counting begin until the Polls close. ABSENTEE BALLOTS must be HAND counted if rejected by the Election Center's electronic readers! Then they have to be HAND-opened (the first view, usually by teams representing BOTH/ALL parties). THAT is the main reason for those massive delays in getting a final count. Often ABSENTEE BALLOTS change the outcome of an election..

If the electronic reader glitches - and they will as result of your RON PAUL WRITE-IN - those ballots will then have to be HAND-counted (second view, by teams representing BOTH/ALL parties) and HAND-recounted (third view, again by teams representing BOTH/ALL parties) for verification. And all under the observation of those on-scene as representatives sent by political parties, campaigns and candidates. Election Central is the bottom line as the final count is everything. Sometimes it takes DAYS to do all the tabulations and that makes news, especially when there's an upset or a reported impropriety. Those long hours - and the reason for it: RON PAUL WRITE-INs - will make excellent gossip and news coverage..

If ignored by media again, a lot of politically active people have had to READ those ABSENTEE BALLOTS (lots of views by BOTH/ALL parties) and the RON PAUL and RESTORE THE CONSTITUTION messages (see Step 4:, below) cannot be missed nor misinterpreted! The revelation of RON PAUL WRITE-INs cannot but send a very powerful message to any and all parties and candidates, especially those who actually win: that they DO NOT have a mandate to continue the socialist destruction of our Constitution and Nation; that WE, THE PEOPLE, are not going to go away; and that RON PAUL and his principles are going to remain longer than the Rock of Gibraltar!

Step 3:

Call the County Clerk's Election Office and VOLUNTEER to work the Polls, vote counting or Canvassing Boards representing whatever party you're registered as, and take any position they offer. They always need people and will TRAIN you in all the processes and procedures. AND YOU GET PAID! Minimum wage, to be sure, and the hours are long, but that puts YOU - a RON PAUL and RESTORE THE CONSTITUTION supporter on the scene to ensure a FAIR and HONEST election and/or vote count. We desperately need both..

Step 4:

Including anything other than the ballot into the ABSENTEE BALLOT return envelope VIOLATES Postal Regulations and Federal Law. However, your own First Class Postage does not. When you do your RON PAUL WRITE-IN, on a separate piece of paper and in a separate envelope - write/print the words in huge letters "RESTORE THE CONSTITUTION! ALL OF IT! NOW!" and stamp and send it to the same mailing address as the ABSENTEE BALLOT return envelope. Why? We want that message into the eyes of party regulars who are usually political appointees to run the elections and do the counting..

This part of the Campaign will start one hell of a fire-storm that nobody - including media - can do anything about. All County Clerks are required BY LAW to log and maintain any and all letters REGARDLESS of source or content. The County Records expense alone will get a lot of official attention and THE MESSAGE will not be lost on any of them. You don't need to add your name or address if you don't want to, the MESSAGE will BE the MESSAGE and especially if the Election's Office gets flooded with NON-IDENTICAL letters..

Don't print and mail a batch that are all printed alike to the same recipient. Same message: YES; same layout, color, et cetera, NO! It's junk mail and presents the perception that we're too few in number to amount to anything. Making enough copies to send to each of your local, state and federal officials, candidates and incumbents, is a second hammer-blow none dare ignore. The more voters we have do this, the better..

Effect:

The sudden surge for ABSENTEE BALLOTS will potentially be subject to a lot of news coverage and speculation. Excellent, we need coverage. The revelation; RON PAUL WRITE-INs; is going to cause a lot of headlines and message-sending to political parties, incumbents, media and future candidates alike. Especially John McCain who isn't on all that great paper with many party conservatives, and it will absolutely devastate Marxist Hillary and all-mouth-and-no-do Barack..

This Campaign ensures our DEMANDS to RESTORE THE CONSTITUTION cannot be ignored without great political peril; an infinitely strong message that
WE, THE PEOPLE, DEMAND OUR CONSTITUTION AND OUR NATION BACK! ALL OF IT! Not little pusswilly 'provisions' here, 'permits' there or empowering some socialist-agenda 'agency' (Homeland Security) to handle our CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS 'on our behalf'.

ALL OF IT! NOW! Not a slew of 'promises' for the next election, NOW! While they're still in office! REPEAT - ALL OF IT! NOW!

WE, THE PEOPLE, are charged with the responsibility of holding our elected officials and their appointees to their Oath of Office - "to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies both foreign and domestic" - and to call them into IMMEDIATE ACCOUNT at the slightest impropriety..

2010 is not that far over the horizon, and this Campaign will make our point very clear right along with the political consequences for any Elected or Appointed official who refuses or fails..

We cannot leave RON PAUL and our Nation any greater legacy..

Colonel Robert F.

Cunningham

This needs its own thread!

Please put this up so all can read, It's the way to go!

Missouri

No candidate who files for nomination to an office and is not nominated at a primary election may file a declaration of intent to be a write-in candidate for the same office at the general election.

http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/c100-199/1150000453.htm

The Supreme Court has

The Supreme Court has already ruled that the People have the Right to Petition for Redress of Grievence, BUT the Government has no Constitutional obligation to respond to such petitions. Likewise...

The People have the right to Vote, but the Government has no Constitutional obligation to count the votes.

The Constitution only obligates the counting of the Electoral College vote.

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Unless we can get Ron Paul

Unless we can get Ron Paul Republicans elected to offices then nothing will ever change. The Constitution says if the government ever comes to not being representative of the people, the people have the right to abolish said government and start it anew. I guess what that means is we have to go take it by force from the communists that have control over it right now.

BTW, did you hear that a few days ago California repealed the anti-communist laws for their state? Guess the communists have something planned that needs to be done out there and needed to keep their zionist agents from getting thrown out of their offices.

Ron Paul 2012

Exactly

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"The body is but a vessel for the soul,
A puppet which bends to the soul's tyranny.
And lo, the body is not eternal,
For it must feed on the flesh of others,
Lest it return to the dust whence it came.
Therefore the soul deceives and despises."

"Unless we can get Ron Paul

"Unless we can get Ron Paul Republicans elected". This is a statement of giving up one's soveriegnty. Under the Jurisprudence of our Founders, the INDIVIDUAL is the Soveriegn. Soveriegn, the HIGHEST authority. You seek to elect a HIGHER soveriegn to REPRESENT YOU, thereby giving up your own soviengty unto that representitive. We must reestablish OUR OWN SOVERIEGNTY with in the Common Law if we are ever to reestablish Constittutional Law. Electing someone else to REPRESENT you accomplishes the continuance of giving away the soverienty of the INDIVIDUAL.

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