Bob Barr A Poor Representative Of Liberty

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Lee Rogers
Rogue Government
June 1, 2008

Bob Barr

Barr simply can’t be trusted to fully represent the ideals of liberty and freedom even if on the surface it looks as if he is intending to do that.

The Libertarian Party recently nominated former Republican Congressman Bob Barr as their presidential nominee. This nomination represents a compromise of the principles that the Libertarian Party used to stand for. Party members decided that they were going to sell out the principles of their party in exchange for some coverage in the corporate controlled media. Is some coverage in the establishment media worth having a man at the front of the party with an incredibly dubious past pertaining to freedom and liberty? Although it is possible that Barr might have changed his ways and realized his mistakes for not abiding by the Constitution, his record speaks for itself. Barr voted in favor of the Patriot Act, worked for the CIA throughout the 1970s and supported the phony war on drugs for several years. The Patriot Act is one of the most tyrannical pieces of legislation ever passed in the history of the United States. The war on drugs is entirely against the principles of the Libertarian Party. Considering Barr’s record of supporting anti-freedom policies and legislation, he is not a suitable choice to vote for in the general election. If you want to vote for a candidate that believes in liberty and the Constitution, write in Ron Paul.

Barr won the nomination over Mary Ruwart who would have been a fine candidate to promote the Libertarian cause. Ruwart is an author who has supported the cause of individual freedom for many years. She is a long time member of the Libertarian party and had none of the baggage that Barr has. By selecting Barr as the presidential nominee, the Libertarian Party has selected a poor representative.

Below is a blurb from a Bloomberg report talking about how Barr has upset many Libertarians with his dubious past.

Barr has angered Libertarians by backing what they view as abuses of government, including efforts to crack down on drugs and his vote for the Patriot Act, which gave the government expanded powers, such as wiretapping, to fight terrorism. Civil libertarians condemn his co-sponsorship of the Defense of Marriage Act, which prohibits federal recognition of same-sex marriages, and his opposition to abortion.

Although Barr’s platform appears reasonable, his history of supporting anti-freedom positions is reason enough not to vote for him. The abortion issue is subject to debate since the New World Order is using abortion to support their depopulation agenda. However, the other positions Barr has held in the past are contrary to the ideals accepted by the majority of Libertarians and other freedom loving Americans. The war on drugs is a total fraud and used as an excuse to have a police state and generate profits for the drug traffickers that work for the CIA and the various criminals within the U.S. government. It also serves as a way to generate massive amounts of profits for the prison industrial complex. Barr was a major supporter of this phony drug war for many years and on top of that worked for the CIA which is involved heavily in the drug trade. Barr’s support of the Patriot Act deserves no further analysis. Members of Congress were not even allowed to read the Patriot Act before they voted on it, so what does that say about Barr’s judgment? He voted in favor of a bill without even reading it.

It is time that people vote for individuals and not parties. This is a perfect example of such a scenario. The Libertarian Party has in the past fielded good candidates like Harry Browne in 2000 and Ron Paul in 1988. This recent choice is a compromise of the party platform in exchange for media coverage that doesn’t mean anything if it means a watered down message. There is no difference between the Republican and Democrat parties already and if the Libertarian Party sends people like Barr to represent them, than pretty soon there will be no difference between any political parties including the big 3rd parties. Voting for the individual and not the party is the best way to go and that’s why writing in Dr. Paul is clearly the best choice. Barr simply can’t be trusted to fully represent the ideals of liberty and freedom even if on the surface it looks as if he is intending to do that. Even though that might not be fair, ask yourself which makes more sense. Should we support someone who has only embraced the liberty message for a couple of years versus someone like Dr. Paul who has been actively involved in this for decades? The answer should be obvious.

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Benton: Paul not steering the Revolution to Barr

"But without Mr. Paul on the ballot, many of his supporters may choose not to vote at all. And Mr. Paul, the Libertarian Party’s nominee in 1988, does not plan to steer his supporters to Mr. Barr, said Jesse Benton, a spokesman for Mr. Paul. “Bob and Ron are former colleagues and they’re friends,” Mr. Benton said carefully. “But that’s where the relationship ends."

New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/01/weekinreview/01bosman.html...

If I must choose between a

1) ProWar Liberal Moderate (McCain)
2) A Mildly Anti-War Liberal Progressive (Obama)
3) Two libertarian frauds, (Barr/Root)

I will choose number 2, Obama hands down. Why? One reason is he is at least open about what he is. No one is being tricked, as in McCain pretending to be a Conservative and Barr pretending to be a Libertarian. Sorry, honesty counts for something. But there is a much better strategic reason to support and vote for Obama.

I like the thought of opposing Obama's progressive policies FACE ON in the future. Here is why: I have found that with Bush, it was impossible to get rank n file Republicans upset about No Child Left Behind, making government workers out of Airport Security Workers, Prescription Drug Benefits, launching the Dept of Home Land Security (What's the dept of Defense for if not Home land security?", and even wars of Aggression). Yet had Bill Clinton done these things, each and every Republican would have come out against it. So the lesson I have learned is,

PICK your Enemies Well. Who champions the policies we are Against, is just as important as the policies themselves. For this reason alone, we should wish Obama well. If McCain the liberal moderate is president, he will get things pasts through congress and signed into law, THINGS we do Not wish to see past. But if Obama, the liberal progressive and even socialist tries to get things past, Republicans will dig their heels in and oppose the very same measures that, should McCain do it, they would support. We have seen this happen with Bush getting his Prescription Drug Benefit plan past through Congress, and you know that if Bill Clinton had tried that, it would have gotten nowhere with Republicans.

Another reason is Obama's supporters. They are a funny a political lot. I watched one video that asked them "What policies do you like about Obama?" Several said, he'd cut taxes. Ok, stop laughing. So that is my point, these fools know they want something to change. What happens when they notice nothing has changed, its all the same. Well a few at first will make excuses but with the REVOLUTION out there pushing for Our Policy Changes, and Obama and the Democrats blocking our push for REAL CHANGES, they will soon see us for what we are, a true Revolutionary call for changes in American Governance. By 2012 and after hearing our Revolution fight for Changes that an Obama administration DID not Do.... they will be prime voters to join our Revolution. No, they will always be a politically mixed up and sophmoric lot.... but they will believe in our brand of real change.

And Change is a real winning political brand. We saw Nixon use it to rid Johnson & his Vietnam war, then Ford to rid Nixon of his Watergate, then Carter to rid Ford for his pardon, then Reagan to rid Carter of his Iran rescue fiasco, the Clinton to rid GBush Sr for breaking his No New Taxes pledge, then Bush, to lead American on a more conservative direction with a "humble foreign policy".... Change as a brand works. Our call for change is Revolutionary. Its REAL CHANGE.

By choosing then opposing a president Obama, we put ourselves in the right position to fight and win 2012. Who will that champion be? I do not know. Will it be former governor of New Mexico Gary Johnson? Or will it be a new Revolutionary? Who knows. What we do know is that the Revolution will not stop. We have climbed up inside the Republican Party. We are now working on the Republican Platform. We are electing Ron Paul Congressmen to office. We will have through our weight behind Obama only so that we may know our enemy well.

Long live the Revolution.

In Peace & Liberty,
Treg

So Pick Obama, keep the Revolution Alive.

Treg

NewsWeek: Most of your

NewsWeek: Most of your supporters are libertarian. Why are you still a Republican?

RonPaul: It affords me opportunities to talk about the Constitution. If I had not been in one of the major parties, I wouldn't have been in the debates. If I hadn't been in the debates, no one would have ever heard of me.

EXACTLY. The LP party isn't going anywhere fast and if it does....that should be a red flag to the Revolution that something is amiss. Just keep on donating and voting for Ron Paul Republicans and we'll overtake the GOP in short order.

Dump Root or absolutely no

Dump Root or absolutely no consideration from the Revolution.

I just love how the Barr Bots keep on repeating the same

talking points over and over and over. Mix some lies with some truth with some assumptions. No matter how ridiculous
The sad truth is IT WORKS.
Fox News is the living proof. Im really confused. We also keep on repeating our talking points but it seems theyre so effective.
reminds me of steve parent on this website. He just keeps repeating his same ole same WITH THE CAPS ON & THE LONG TITLES. Many people were brave to stand up to him and at least ask him who he was at the beginning since the ghost was pimpin for CASH. But....... Now he has a cult following lol even those brave at first chickened out but I wont
and whats cute is that they call him Doctor bwaaahahahaaaa
okay I said enough

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I Support Barr

One of the best things about Paul is that he leads by example and tells his supporters to 'figure it out'. Paul says he will endorse McCain if McCain changes his opinion on foreign policy, campaign finance reform, monetary policy, immigration, and a myriad of other issues. Paul knows this is unlikely. Yet Paul consistently lets it be known that he would support McCain in this unlikely scenario. What is Ron Paul trying to tell us?

Barr is campaigning on a message consistent with Paul and will be on the ballot in at least 48 states.

It's called being facetious.

It's called being facetious. Not sure if you noticed but he laughs a little every time he says he would support McCain or laughs a little and says it's not probable that McCain would abandon his campaign points to endorse Ron Paul's. I thought those who were trying to use that excuse as some sort of bolstering for their support of Barrf were being facetious.....but now I realize that some are serious. LOL!!!!!!

What he's telling us is that

What he's telling us is that you have to use diplomacy on TV and in the media. He knows McCain would never change any of his positions in a pro-Liberty direction, but the nitwits in the Press keep trying to get him to commit to endorsing McCain. Hence, his answer, which is fudging a bit but still truth in the clinical sense.

I know Barr will not win, hence I choose to vote for a Third Party candidate who has principles---Chuck Baldwin. The number of states where he's on the ballot is irrelevant, unless you're in a state where he has no access.

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Dr. Paul says Barr is an ally and would do a very good job

Dr. Paul says Barr is an ally (http://www.newsweek.com/id/139448/page/1)
and would do "a very good job" as president (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5YaqKf-yTg).

I trust Dr. Paul's judgement more.

The writer also creates a false dilemma: "Should we support someone who has only embraced the liberty message for a couple of years versus someone like Dr. Paul who has been actively involved in this for decades?" Guess what bozo? Barr is not running against Dr. Paul in the general election. It's not an either/or situation. I support both - Dr. Paul in his pre-nomination run to get delegates, and I support Paul's ally, Barr, when Dr. Paul's run is over after McCain is nominated.

Barr supported Paul (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJH9aPh0KvU). He even tried to draft Paul to run in the Libertarian Party in his place. He chose to run only after Dr. Paul declined the invitation. He's not a clone of Dr. Paul, but that's ok. He's definitely part of the Revolution and is now on the side of liberty.

I will consider him an ally

I will consider him an ally only IF he gets rid of Wayne Allyn Root.

Even then, though, I wouldn't consider voting for Barr. He's not a part of the Ron Paul movement.

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I say youz is a BARR

ASS KISSER. You still arent getting paid enough to push BOB on this site you know. So stop.

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I was warned

by my mom that the Libertarian Party had been infiltrated in the last few years. I guess this proves she was right...

"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors."
- Plato

Interesting isn't it? Our

Interesting isn't it? Our Libertarian on the inside is Dr. Paul... Now who is going to reach the middle of the Death Star first?

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I don't know

But it looks like BillyDee is a senator palpatine wanna bee

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"Doctor Paul sounds almost

"Doctor Paul sounds almost apologetic to our enemies. He sounds much like the blame America first crowd."

--Wayne Allyn Root, Libertarian Party VP candidate

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Wayne is going to have to

Wayne is going to have to explain that one to me.

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You are 100% right on the

You are 100% right on the money.