ALL "protest" votes lead to Democratic win in November.

""RP, himself, will cost the Republicans several million votes.""

Thats a f--ken lie.. RP is taking away 0 votes from McCain, ZEROOOO!

No-one would vote for that insane hasbin anyway, not RP people thats for sure.

He's already lost.

Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost. -

John Quincy Adams

I suggest Ron Paul continue to travel the country and raise the issues while reserving his blessing until the day before the election. We can use the anticipation to court the media... we can continue to plaster signs all over the country and even utilize the old signs...

"Who is Ron Paul? ...And WHO is he VOTING FOR?" I'm sure we could come up with many more creative signs as well. But the media wont be able to resist... because if we plaster as many signs around as we did before... everybody will be wondering if they can get Ron Paul's endorsement.

It will make the polls meaningless, it will corral the media and will give the Paulistas, Ron Paulians, the Revolution a huge amount of attention and potential... especially if we can go Congression seat by seat.

We can still make a huge impact on the 2008 election!

Mike
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the CFR and the one worlders win if McCain or any other mainstream Republican gets in the White House too. In the whole scheme of things, it really isn't gonna matter. Our grandchildren are screwed with about the same intensity either way. The two parties are just different sides of the same coin and it's been that way for a long long time. Excuse me. Make that the same counterfiet coin. The way I see it, with computerized voting, all this campaigning and rhetoric is really just for show, a meaningless presentation to play the voters and make them think they are meaningful to the process. McCain is not his own man, just like Obama, Hillary, Guiliani, Huckabee, Thompson and the rest, except for Dr. Paul and probably Kucunich and Gravel. They are bought and paid for. Others pull their strings and if people think Obama is gonna pull our boys out of the Mideast, think again. I'll bet you "circumstances" will come to light that make it imperative that our boys, and girls, need to stay the course there. Something along the lines of " I have been apprised of unknown threats, etc..." It's said that there is $ 2 trillion or more (borrowed money) to be made off the Mideast conflict in the future and those that are on the other end of the strings will not be denied their share of the loot. The Fed bankers, who contributed to all three of the front runners will reap profits, as will the military industrialists, and we will suffer more inflation. By the next election, maybe sooner, we're gonna be wishing we still had $4 gasoline.

I say don't compromise your convictions by being suckered into voting for the lesser of two evils and let the chips fall. That's been my attitude since I started voting in 1976 and I sleep like a baby every night.

See you at the convention and Good Luck to All.

We in the Ron Paul Revolution are STILL treated very badly.

They DO NOT WANT US.

Well then I say, so be it. Lets plan for the future. I think Obama will win hands down against McCain anyway. Disgruntled rank n file Republicans will come back to us, if for nothing but to complain about Socialist Obama. (never mind these same rank n file republicans said nothing about Bush's socialists measures).

In the meantime, here is a 4 year Strategy that we can TAKE.

Lets get to know the Obama people.

Each Ron Paul Meetup group should adopt an Obama meet up group.

The GOAL here is just to Win Friends..... Obama Friends. Get to know them personally. Your goal is not to Educate here. Your goal is not to teach them about YOU or RON PAUL. Your goal would only be to get to know them, know why they liked Obama. Know what their expectations where/are. Get to know each of them, but its not important that they get to know you. Sure, be honest and say you really liked Ron Paul, but end the talk there. Do not let them know more of your opinions, just LISTEN to theirs. Win friends, thats your goal.

Then we WAIT.

We wait for the day when President Obama starts to really disappoint the friends you have made. Listen again, LISTEN to thier disappontment with Obama. It will take a year of disappointment for them to start to consider anything without feeling disloyal or that Obama "had his chance" . Many already are thinkng, Obama has 16 months.

Then, when you see the time is right, PULL THEM ever so GENTLY over into the Ron Paul Revolution for REAL change. Just bring up that one issue that they care so much about. Perhaps its the war, or the poor, and then point out how RP Revolution could help, that we are for REAL fundamental Structural CHANGE.

I suspect that the first pledge Obama will break is his 16 month Pledge. So do MANY other Liberals. Already callers on Liberal Talk Radio are worried about this. Case in point, one caller started it off, calling Thom Hartman for Progessive Talk Radio...."How can I trust Obama? I mean we have Nancy Pelocie not pressing the Iraq Issue or even looking for Impeachment, and you know if the shoe was on the other foot, those Right Wingers would be all over it. Then there is the mousy Harry Reid. He cannot stand up to anybody. Then we have Congressman Rangle, who as chairman of his committee can end this Iraq War right now. So, why should I believe a word of what democrats or Obama is saying about getting us out of Iraq?" -----Thom Hartman says, "Well you know for sure that Hillary won't do it, so we are just going to have to put our trust in Obama".

Get that? I say we GROW this REVOLUTION with a little LOVE thrown towards getting to know the Obama faithful. WE must be there FOR THEM when Obama lets them down. And you KNOW this CFR socialist will do just that, for war is the greatest government program there is.

SO, may I propose to each Patriot, go out low key, JUST MAKE FRIENDS with Obama people...... Make it a 2 year committement.

Then by 2012, we should be able to GROW our Revolution at the Marginal loss of the Obama crowds who get disgusted that "Nothings changed"

That is a good strategy. By taking million or so Obama people with us, and the revitalized rank n file Republicans who hate Obama, we should have a very massive and strong R3VOLUTION come 2012.

Treg

Hopefully we stop bickering and realize that we are on the same side and want the same thing for the most part. The ones who are here to start shit will eventually expose themselves,or will be exposed, and we can move forward from there.
I did not come to raise a few eyebrows at the GOP. I did not come here to make friends with people that are part of a corrupt party that has pulled every trick in the book to marginalize RP and us.
I came here to see RP get a shot at the White House,be it President or Vice President.
Jesse Ventura is the only hope for that. RP and JV need to be brought together and run independent, The time could not be better for this. We do not have much time,and we could very well be screwed by 2012.
We must unify and give this a shot.IMHO.
At least we will have gone to bed having REALLY tried.
RP could do so much more in the WH than he can as a Congressman barking at Bernake, Condi,Petreus,or whoever. They will continue to roll their eyes and wait for the lunch bell as his words fall on deaf ears.
WE MUST DRAFT RP AND JV FOR A RUN FOR THE GRAND PRIZE,AND STOP THE BLEEDING. WE CAN NOT SETTLE FOR LESS.

Yeah...probably doesn't matter either way...the warfare state is creeping on the welfare state as far as my wallet is concerned...at least pissing my own money away for more giveaways doesn't make the world hate us.

I never thought I'd be asking for more welfare, but I fear we can't bear the cost of a war with Iran.

Hopefully...Obama's healthcare will only inflate costs and bring people back to the capitalist reality...we can't survive as a collectivist nation.

for copy and pasting a 5000 word worthless diatribe to this thread that ends in a self serving link to a website to get you money...i guess the next thing is to have this thread "disappear"

too bad, too...if people skip your nota nonsense below they can get to treg and many other worthwile posters discussing future strategy's of the movement...

would you mind making that nota diatribe go away...i mean, it shows up on every post on the DP that begins to make some sense and it only serves to confuse...is this your game?