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"How to deal with HomeLand Security Check point"

(Papers please!!)....This guy does a great job in handling these border patrolmen and women....(LOL)Watch as this patrol women get frustrated and stumble on her words.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6uw7506xMw



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This is exactly why we need

This is exactly why we need The Enumerated Powers Act to become law.

As law it would require every law to cite the specific section of The Constitution that gives Congress the right to enact the law.

Then at times like this DHS could be asked under which law they are stopping the car. Then also ask which section of the Constitution authorized that law.

That would be quick and easy.

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Yeah But

Look at these http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msFEj-UBU9Q&NR=1
Border patrol supposable and the way these kids responded would me more like most patriots would respond.

Question:
Given a cocky border patrol agent who feels like he must flex some muscle, how should these kids have responded?

Detective Krum Investigates:
http://victory1project.wordpress.com/

Good video

Where's the rest of it? Did he get out of the car? Arrested?

May I suggest 1 other

May I suggest 1 other question? Did you as a law enforcement officer take an oath to uphold the constitution?
And speaking about the constitution, can someone tell me where the least expensive pocket constitutions can be purchased?

Formerly rprevolutionist

You can get 100 of them for $30.00 from

this place:

http://www.nccs.net/us_constitution.html

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These have a bit of religious overtone, but they are VERY nice.

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Thank you so much!!!

Thank you so much!!!

Formerly rprevolutionist

This is a very important

This is a very important video.

HomeLand Security

It may be that these check points were before HomeLand Security existed as such.

Weigh Stations (you know tractor-trailers mostly) have been checking for illegals and drugs "years" before the great HomeLand Security was put into place. Using the dogs to sniff this stuff out while you sit 'n wait to be weighed. Where at, Texas (one place), laugh, go figure.

They can pull you in at anytime and check your papers, log book.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwHXOwk3xNo

Understand.........

But this was an ilegal check point......They were stoping vehicles without reasonable suspicion a crime has not been committed, plus they were border patrol Guards and they are 40 miles from the border....

http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Find-Freedom.htm?At=033736

"Observe the masses,and do the opposite."

"Observe the masses,and do the opposite."

I didn't come to argue

I just don't know.

I know you didn't come to

I know you didn't come to argue....You miss understood my post, I was just trying to explain myself about the video,that all....sorry if you took it the wrong way ,(peace!! )

"Observe the masses,and do the opposite."

"Observe the masses,and do the opposite."

I have seen this video many

I have seen this video many times and enjoy it, but enjoyed the subsequent comments MUCH more. Whoever this guy is, he makes such great points with the "hecklers" he got. Calmly, strongly, educating them about the Constitution which they have all come to deny out of fear. I love this guy..wish he had a place to contact him so I could tell him so.

Check out his Web

https://www.checkpointusa.org

Click on The Philosophy of Liberty flash movie - it's worth watching, even more than the checkpoint videos themselves:

The Philosophy of Liberty

He does have a link for feedback at the site too.

Disagree

Sorry, we may be going to hell in a handbasket. We may have all kinds of governmental problems. This was not one of them.

How are we going to secure our borders without speaking to people.

Sorry, I consider this guy confrontational. The "woman" did a great job. Held her temper without saying a word about the lack of cooperation she received and all the photography going on. This guy was just begging for a little more trouble. Very obnoxious.

Sorry, I don't buy this as being wonderful at all. Maybe they have a further agenda, but it was not shown here. Great job by the officer and I appreciate her taking care of our borders. You can say that is not what she was doing. That she was getting us used to check points, etc. Not buying it YET. This is certainly not proof of anything. This was securing our borders, best they know how at the moment. May not be what some of us want on this site, but that is all it was.

You need to watch the

You need to watch the liberty video http://www.isil.org/resources/introduction.swf
Then ask yourself - "Do I own my own life, or does someone else?"

Great little video

Does nothing to change my mind about this particular incident.

Sorry...........

But that was no where near the border....And the women new she did not have consitutional rights to pull him over that far inland, that's why she didn't use force or had him pull out of his car....If she was at the border then I would understand but she was not.(Department of Home Land)

"Observe the masses,and do the opposite."

"Observe the masses,and do the opposite."

I don't consider 40 miles far from the border

It depends on what is on that stretch of road before the checkpoint. If there are no turn offs, 40 miles is not far. She was very polite. Only asked him one question. I don't see your point of view yet. But I am going to keep my mind open and see if I change my mind. So far, I have not. This guy could simply have said, "Ya know, I am really into my Constitutional rights and I am of the opinion that you are crossing them. I cannot answer your question on the grounds that this is Unconstitutional." He doesn't have to take pictures all over, and keep rudely repeating the same statement. I simply can never see Ron Paul acting like this. I would never act like this. She has a job to do, she isn't rude ot him. He is rude to her.

I agree..............

The women was being polite but may have not known she was doing anything wrong , but the man had every right to take pictures and and ask those question, specially if he felt his rights was being step on......I f you check out this link below (scrow down a little) there is an article of some of these same patrol gaurds that are suing there employers for this same reason ,it's called "Shotgunning" ...
which is a term for pulling people over for no reason ,no crime has been committed.....

http://freedomsphoenix.com/Standard-Page.htm?Page=00183

"Observe the masses,and do the opposite."

"Observe the masses,and do the opposite."

See: Bill of Rights, Amendment 4................

This is a very important that everyone needs to understand.

This IS the problem. You cannot bend the Constitution. Either it means what it says or we might just as well throw it out the window. We gotta stand up for it. If forty miles isn't that much of a stretch, how about 100, 300, etc. Hey its all subjective.......... Just put em anywhere. Sobriety check points, should they be legal................. Hell NO!

Hey we need to start check points for _______________ (fill in the blank). What next?

P.S. The guy handled it perfectly. The less words the better.

If they would just close the

If they would just close the damn border we wouldn't have this problem. Do you really think the illegals are travelling in a car on a main highway?
Fine the companies that employee illegals and stop giving the illegals free food and medical! I was born here and I have no medical benefits. I pay between $95 and $120 for an office call to see a doctor. Meanwhile illegals are getting free medical and a multitude of other benefits. SCUSE me.... where the hell are my rights????

Formerly rprevolutionist

The Constitution IS The highest LAW of the land............

A law is a fixed riged principal. If we start bending it is no longer a law. We MUST hold it firmly to ensure its enforced or we lose it by forfieting our responsibility and obligation to it.

This is already what's taken place in this country and the Ron Paul movement intends to correct it.

You missed an important point.....................

This was 40 miles from the border!

Bump

It is apparent that this girl clearly knows shes in the wrong. Although I want to support our police / border patrol we can't support em when their doin unconstitutional crap like this.

Meaning..................

Keep the border cops at the border.

Exactly!...............

These people were 40 miles in-land from the border.

"Observe the masses,and do the opposite."

"Observe the masses,and do the opposite."

That girl is

obviously too stupid to know what she is doing. Why wouldn't she give her name? Are they told not to? Do you people actually believe our government gives a rat's butt or a tick turd about the illegal fiasco? They WANT it that way. They want to reduce this country down to nothing, that's the plan. They give us a few paultry border patrol agents then they imprision them when they do thier jobs. This country is sinking fast. I can feel it in my bones. I walked outside today and watched the wind blow and looked at the fields and the grass blowing in the wind and it just didn't feel right. I can feel it coming.

Question

What part of the country, SW?

Detective Krum Investigates:
http://victory1project.wordpress.com/

Southern Arizona State route

Southern Arizona State route 86 near mile post 146.

( Here is a website dedicated to this check point)

https://www.checkpointusa.org/blog/index.php/2008/01/09/p79
"Observe the masses,and do the opposite."

"Observe the masses,and do the opposite."