Return of the Chemtrails
Submitted by declarationofre... on Wed, 06/11/2008 - 18:16
They've been abscent for several weeks ever since our thread heated up and many people on here were discussing them. I thought they finally stopped the program altogether, but then I parted my blinds this afternoon and looked up at the sky....
The dreaded X-pattern was there, practically right over my head, and a few other trails surrounding it. They remained there for several hours...
Aerosol Crimes - 1 of 9 - "Chemtrails" (best doc I've found)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9maRJOqtH4
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They are out again today. Two days in a row, after weeks of abscence...
"The body is but a vessel for the soul,
A puppet which bends to the soul's tyranny.
And lo, the body is not eternal,
For it must feed on the flesh of others,
Lest it return to the dust whence it came.
Therefore the soul deceives and despises."
Scientific Explanation?
I certainly can't prove any "truths' about the chemtrails...however I do know from personal observations (of being a sky watcher) that something has changed significantly since the 1950's, 60's, and 70's in the sky. Now all the naysayers chalk it up to either
(1) changes in the weather or (2) large increase of daily planes in the sky
I don't think the weather has changed since the 50's and 60's...but the contrails have. If it (the weather) has changed that much (to fill the sky with chemtrails) then we certainly have an issue with which to be concerned. If it is that we simply have more planes then we should simply see more, not DIFFERENT, contrails. If the number of plane flights have become so numberous that the large numbers are actually creating some type of atmospherice reaction, then we again have an issue with which to be concerned.
My biggest puzzle is that chemtrails are so inconsistent on a day to day basis. If that is again explained by reason #1 (changes in the weather) then if the naysayers would please explain why they may appear, or not appear, on days with similar weather. Perhaps the "scientific" ones could describe the conditions necessary to produce a sky full of chemtrails (ie temperature, humidity,winds, barometric pressure, and normal heights of plane flights, etc) so that concerned citizens could simply check the conditions to explain why they are seeing chemtrails-and what types of chemtrails would be appearing- for a described day....thus eliminating unnecessary fears. Certainly such a scientfic explanation couldn't be that difficult to provide for people?
And I don't mean an explanation of "how contrails/chemtrails are made" but what specific weather conditions and flight conditions a person could quickly check to verify the validity of their seeing an exhorbant number of chemtrails on a given day.......it sure would put a lot of worried minds...and "theories" to rest.
Any scientific naysayers able to provide a reasonable brief list or description of conditions to watch for so people will know when to expect chemtrails and when they probably won't be seen.......???????
The answer to the question is really not that hard.
I am sure there are people with private jets/airplanes that would be interested in trying, and are capable of rigging up something on their plane to obtain a "sample" from within one of these "Chemtrails." A feat like this would not be all that difficult.
There are also many planes and scientists studying atmospheric conditions by scientists that are not affiliated with a government. I would bet that many of the past 30 years of all the tests run, have been in, or near these trails at some point. These scientists, if they were independent of the military and or government, would likely have gone massively public with the issue at some point if it were found to be something sinister, such as biological or chemical agents..
As much as it seems odd that some trails dissipate and some linger, I just don't see anything unusual about this. Humidity and temperature conditions are layered through the atmosphere and vary from layer to layer. Winds also vary through different layers. So when I see a 2 dimensional video, with an evaporating trail, and a stationary trail that appear to be next to each other, the first question I would ask is what altitude is each individual trail at. It cannot be discerned easily from a video with no reference points. In fact unless you see both planes at the same time in the sky and can tell that they are at exactly the same altitude, nothing would appear unusual. In order to correctly judge the altitude of both planes you would have to be looking at them from the side. Even going by plane size from the ground is inaccurate. A 747 at 30000 feet would likely look the same size as a 727 at say, 20000 feet. As much as I believe our leaders have engaged in some underhanded activities, I just can't find any definitive proof of this theory.
The only way
would be to determine the altitude of the INITIAL "chemtrail", as it initially formed. Then send up a commercial jet, or three, to that same altitude and area to see what happens. If they create the same trail then we would all kill the issue once and for all.
"The body is but a vessel for the soul,
A puppet which bends to the soul's tyranny.
And lo, the body is not eternal,
For it must feed on the flesh of others,
Lest it return to the dust whence it came.
Therefore the soul deceives and despises."
That might work
That might work as quite an interesting experiment, but one variable that would have to be controlled would be any differences in the aircraft fuel. I am unfortunately not an aviation engineer, but I would guess it likely that there are different grades of jet fuel for various types and sizes of engines. The molecular structures of the exhaust being different or water/moisture/condensation content of fuel purchased from different facilities, possibly could create a different trail in the same altitude.
"QUICK! SOMEONE CALL ADAM AND JAMIE -MYTHBUSTERS!"
Naaa, nevermind. There is no reason to blow anything up in an experiment like this, so they probably wouldn't take it. Heh heh
The Scientific method
I like your thinking.
Crazy
I remember first reading about chemtrails on DP. I was very skeptical at first but I tried to keep an open mind. Then, the very next day, I saw one in the skies over Iowa. It was definitely different than a normal airplane contrail. Chemtrails were noticeable quite a bit over the next 2 week period.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBh2SD67aeo
Recently, Iowa has seen record setting flooding throughout the state. Coincidence? I've also noticed these chemtrails in the last several days in between the days of raining. Strange?
Call us crazy ... but we'll just keep sharing the truth anyway!
Those are chemtrails
That is exactly what I say over my home in Indianapolis, and they remained there for several hours. How come we never see these things out in rural, sparsely populated areas? I've only seen them in the city....
BTW, this may be of interest:
(NWO at work) The Great Global Warming Swindle-1of 8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snLIJ6SwQSc&feature=email
Could the spraying be connected to "global warming"?
"The body is but a vessel for the soul,
A puppet which bends to the soul's tyranny.
And lo, the body is not eternal,
For it must feed on the flesh of others,
Lest it return to the dust whence it came.
Therefore the soul deceives and despises."
Saw an X pattern today
On route 1 near Kennett Square, PA and Longwood Gardens.
http://killfiat.blogspot.com/
Forgot to mention
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A few hours after the spraying, a hazey cloud appeared over the park.
Granted I am close to a huge storm in Iowa (worst rain i have ever drivin in).
I live in the midwest and I can honestly
say I have never seen so many tornadoes in our area in over 40 years of living here.
We have been having a outbreak it seems like every couple days.
The weather is just crazy...it really makes you wonder.
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Wow what a coincidence!
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I'm on my anual roadtrip to go to amusement parks right now. Currently I am in Kansas City, Missouri for Worlds of Fun. Around 4 or 5PM, I happened to look up at the sky and noticed the "X". Here is a video of my pictures: http://youtube.com/watch?v=CW6wnPLcalc
Maybe put that in the main post?
They are real!
and those of you that poo poo it.....
The truth will come out in the very near future.
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There are some conspiracies...
I believe in. Like the banksters and politicians fleecing our country. It may or may not be a "smokey room" conspiracy, but they are definitely conspiring to do it.
I used to think the chemtrail people were crazy too... til I saw them with my own eyes. I'm no dummy, and these were not normal contrails. I've only seen them a couple of times, but where I live there is not that much air traffic, at least not that you can see at any given time, but a couple of days there have been 8-10 trails in parallel lines going across our skies. They were there in just a couple of hours, and then once they had blanketed our skies they stopped coming. Then they slowly dissipated into a thick haze.
Not contrails... no way. I can tell by the trail itself, and the amount and pattern. Remember, I thought these people were crazy too. If I could explain it away, I would.
I'm in favor of chemtrails.
The government is going a great job and I hope they continue.
I don't doubt it! I haven't
I don't doubt it! I haven't seen any evidence in your posts that you are anti-state, or in any way suspicious of big government and its motives.
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What the hell is this:
the Chemtrail Investigation and Cessation Act (HR8416)??? http://www.rallycongress.com/congress/letter/45988/ That's got to be a joke.
Wait, there's a thread from DailyPaul about it: http://209.85.215.104/search?q=cache:u50b_A3tHuMJ:www.dailyp...
It says Dr. Paul sponsored it. LOL! It better be a joke, otherwise the Dr. has lost his mind.
Dennis Kucinich Thinks they're real
Check out HR 2977.
Yea
He also believes 3 or 4 little green men can fly 8000+ years at the speed of light and carry enough food and supplies in a 1600 sq. ft. space craft to survive the journey, let alone live the 8000+ years it takes to arrive here traveling at that speed and miraculously never encounter a direct contact with a rogue meteoroid along the entire distance while traveling at the speed of light which would present a major rapid maneuverability problem to boot...
ouch
my feelings. can you please show your source of this information. It is pretty interesting.
Lol
Here it is. Please forgive my "sarcastic skepticism play" on the scientific likelyhood of true "extraterrestrial" UFO's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuCIsROwwtQ
thats ok
you know most scientists (not the ones Bush employs) will tell you it is naive to think we are the only creatures in the universe. So its ok that he saw UFO's...it doesn't really change that chemtrails are likely real after all our wonderful government allows us to eat poisonous food(GMOs, processed food out the ying yang, diseased meat), requires us to be injected with poisonous substances, encourages sunscreen use (what a great idea lets bake chemicals into our skin!!) puts flouride in our water, encourages poison err I mean prescription drug use so why wouldn't they poison the air we breathe? They already have our food and water the only logical thing for an evil mind is the air. The weather in the midwest has been horrible. I work outside and I have been sick (headaches and feeling like I have the flu) every day so far for the last few weeks and I think its a combo of two things the chinese playing with the weather for the olympics and chemtrails. I thought the Federal Reserve was ok until I watched freedom to facism....anywhoo thanks for the source. I do appreciate it! I know my sentence structure and grammar is not applaudable please do not rip me a new one because of it. I am working on it.
Lol
No doubt it is naive to think we are the only life in the universe, but I think it is safe to say that it is unlikely something lived for even 1000 years, let alone 8000 years and travelled at the speed of light in a little tiny spaceship just to fly here and scope us out. Where did they put all the food? Where did they refuel? Who will be left on their planet when they get back, to report their experience to 16000 years later? No fuel lasts 8000 years. Even if you required only three molecules of food a day, 4 or 5 beings worth, to last 8000 years, would fill a supertanker. Just a thought.
ok
I agree with your logic....I can keep giving you other sides of various coins but I agree with you for the most part so we'll just leave it as it is. :) Thank you for not being mean.
Check this Vid out
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=4x8-2TAHXfU
Those aren't chemtrails
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"The body is but a vessel for the soul,
A puppet which bends to the soul's tyranny.
And lo, the body is not eternal,
For it must feed on the flesh of others,
Lest it return to the dust whence it came.
Therefore the soul deceives and despises."
Nobody is spending billions
Nobody is spending billions of dollars to spray death onto the very people that supply the government with all of their money. Get a life, quit using meth, it makes you paranoid.