How do we vote now?

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Currently I hope I still have two options:

(1) Write-in RON PAUL

(2) Write-in "NO Confidence"

I would like to hear what some others might do...

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Alternative Option

I think Ralph Nader is a fine alternative for Ron Paul supporters.

Paul speaks against BIG GOVERNMENT. And contrary to what news bites and propaganda would have you believe, Nader is also against big government. Consider the enormously bloated military budget which accounts for nearly half of the government's total operating budget. This is a tremendous waste of taxpayer money going to imperial wars based on lies.

And as part of this war, we have more BIG GOVERNMENT in the form of citizen surveillance. The PATRIOT Act (which Barr VOTED FOR) grants the government unprecedented powers to watch over American citizens without the need to prove probable cause in the court system.

Nader is against big government when it is fraudulent, wasteful or illegal. He calls for end to the intrusive PATRIOT Act and a massive reduction in the military budget. He wants to put an end to the excess of corporate welfare and put and end to the intrusive, failing drug war.

Nader is against maximizing government and sees its role as simply protecting the rights and interests of citizens and society as a whole.

Nader is for BIGGER government

Nader is for a government regulated economy,and a welfare state. That's exactly what big government is. Sure he wants to end corporate welfare, but then he wants the government to control the corporations for "public good." That's big government. Limited government is where the government does not interefere with the private sector at all. It only steps in when crime occurs.

Ron Paul is a free-market capitalist. Nader is a controlled market socialist. Totally incompatible.

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"My role in the revolution is to wake up the lemmings of this country, who sit back and accept the pablum the media feeds them"
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Sorry about my post being

Sorry about my post being reposted. My computer went down and was slow.

I already signed the

I already signed the petition to draft the Ventura/Paul ticket. Ignoranceisbliss, are there any states that we missed?

If the options are...

Mccain, Obama, Barr, and Baldwin: McCain and Obama are NOT an option under any circumstances. Baldwin I think will not get the 10% needed to even get into the debates so that is a wasted vote. That leaves Barr. While I am NOT enthusiastic about Barr he is already polling around 6%. We, the Paul supporters could help get him to 10% so that he will get in the debates. This would infuriate the GOP establishment and would be their worst nightmare come true. In a 3 way race with Barr in the debates I think he can get 34%, especially if the price of fuel continues to rise and the cost of food and everything else along with it....Dr. Paul seems to be hinting that Barr would be a reasonable option. Based on these factors, as we stand today, I would be in the "reluctant Barr" camp. Although, we are a long way fom Novemeber 5th and events could occur that we cannot forsee. I think that whatever we do, we should all stick together to get the most impact possible. Writing in Dr. paul at this time seems a wasted vote as well and I believe that is the message he is sending. Let's wait and see.

Get your CITY COUNCIL to vote

Get them just to vote Yes or No in support of the Patriot Act, the Real Id Act, the Military Commissions Act.

Just the getting them to vote up or down is good enough to get people thinking. Even if the City council says (yes or no) do I as a citizen agree?

I am working inside the GOP and I am hoping Obama smashes McCain in the General Election, then republicans will start sounding like conservatives again.

Meanwhile, Barr will get my vote (yes I know he is a fraud) but that vote is just to again, slap the GOP.

Come 2012, having Obama as President will unite the GOP and many rank n file republicans will be saying our views. Lets just remember these republicans are fairwether "friends, who once given power again, will transform into Big Govt Republicans."

In Peace & Liberty,

Treg

My vote is for the revolution

I want the establishment to see millions of votes for Ron Paul, I can't in my heart vote for their manchurian candidates. I'm writing him in, no other choice.

They won't see the votes

If Dr. Paul got millions of write-in votes, they wouldn't be counted or reported. No one would ever know. Dr. Paul would have to register as a write-in, in order for the votes to be counted, which he signaled that he's not going to do.

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I already began ACTIVELY supporting Barr/Root

I will continue to support the Ron Paul r3VOLution

and already began ACTIVELY supporting the Barr/Root campaign.

4 of us are already elected to non-partisan public offices in Lee County Florida and we are helping 4 more who will be on the November ballot.

http://JackTanner.net

Why did Root

have to force his way onto the Barr ticket? I hardly know him and I can't stand him. I don't think I can bring myself to get to know him well enough to vote for him. He gets on my nerves majorly big time. Then there are things about Barr that are very suspect.

I doubt he's going to be the permanent running mate

I don't see him even mentioned on the www.bobbarr2008.com website.

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Write-ins are not announced

Write-ins are not announced in PA, only the number of write-ins. For example, some people vote for their pet Fido, so that is not reported for obvious reasons.

As much as I want to write in Dr. Paul, I can't keep writing him in election after election. We are going to have to rally around someone who will profess to carry the torch for Dr. Paul and then hold his/her feet to the fire and make them keep their promises. No one would want to feel the wrath of an angry RP supporter : ). We will never find another RP, but I hope we can rally around someone soon.

psst. Jesse Ventura ,draft him,2 weeks left to act.

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"My role in the revolution is to wake up the lemmings of this country, who sit back and accept the pablum the media feeds them"
Jesse Ventura
Ventura/Paul 2008
http://www.gopetition.com/online/19815.html

*********************************************
The Second Amendment
The ORIGINAL Homeland Security

If Root was YANKED OUT and

If Root was YANKED OUT and replaced with Ventura, that might give Barr and the LP some badly-needed credibility..what do you think of that?

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NO THANK YOU!

Ventura is a Truther. If Ventura singed on with Barr, all the Truthers would come tagging along with their "inside job" signs and slogan and internet activity. They would hurt Barr's image as a sane person and cost him votes. The Truthers cost Dr. Paul a lot of votes and made him seem crazy in the public eye by association. Barr needs to turn Truthers away from his campaign at every opportunity.

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or this...

http://video.google.ca/videosearch?q=loose+cgange&hl=en&site...

????/???? or NOTA2008 - http://www.voters4ventura.com/
Voters for none of the above - http://nota.org/
National Ballot Access - http://www.directdemocracy.com/index.php?option=content&task...

"But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it."

I will defend the truthers.

I am so much wiser because of them. I discovered them through Dr. Paul.
Anyone takes the TIME to research 9-11 and Dr. Paul would come to the same conclusion they are telling the truth. Reopen 9-ll what is the harm in answering the questions other than they are afraid of the answers. Peace

Prepare & Share the Message of Freedom through Positive-Peaceful-Activism.

"My liberty depends on your liberty..."

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"But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it."

To me it is very important

to get a liberty minded third party candidate, Baldwin and/or Barr, in the upcoming debates. I've heard a polling of 15% will be necessary for this.
Baldwin is by far the Paulian purist. But the Constitution Party from what I understand never ends up on the ballot in all states and always polls less then the Liberterian Party.
Barr has his position problems but does have name recognition and a stronger political party to back him. The media will seek him out as the McCain spoiler while Baldwin will go totally unnoticed by the press. I think Barr will be the preferred candidate for defecting Republicans as evidenced by the announcement of Tom Delays wife who will be voting for Barr. Barr by far has a much better chance of making it into the debates.
Though he may not be perfect, Barr has my support and will get my vote.

Most people barely know who the Vice Prez is

How are they going to know who Barr is?
Draft Jesse Ventura. Two weeks left

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"My role in the revolution is to wake up the lemmings of this country, who sit back and accept the pablum the media feeds them"
Jesse Ventura
Ventura/Paul 2008
http://www.gopetition.com/online/19815.html

*********************************************
The Second Amendment
The ORIGINAL Homeland Security

I'm not sure Baldwin is a Paulian purist either

The Constitution Party platform has a some very non-Paulian things in it, such as advocacy of regulating speech for obscenity. Not sure of Baldwin is for that, but I would think he is because of religious background. The platform also looks down on gambling and calls for the government to regulate Indian casinos.

Vote Ron Paul

there is no other choice.

Voting for Ron Paul is not a choice

It's neglecting to make a choice. Paul is not a candidate.

Blasphemous logic how dare thee!!!lol

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Voters for none of the above - http://nota.org/
National Ballot Access - http://www.directdemocracy.com/index.php?option=content&task...

"But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it."

My question is this

My question is this; If Barr is so untrustworthy, why has Ron talked about him as a great collegue and friend? If we are so worried about his experience in the CIA, why do we love Michael Schuerer so much? If we are so concerned with spreading the message, why are we not supporting someone who can keep it in the national spotlight? I really don't get it folks. I don't really care who the man is, however, I do sense some sincerity in his speech. As for me, my friends, and my household, we will be supporting Barr financially and at the ballot box.

Just my two cents.

- kipload
idealogs.blogspot.com

Barr makes voting mistakes and then apologizes

Schuerer comes across as more dependable. Barr chose Root as his running mate. Why would he do that?

Someone dreamed up this whole story about why he voted for the Patriot act and he allowed it to be told, but he never agreed with it. That is weird.

All politics is local.

I think there is too much attention to the presidency. We need to go out and get involved in local politics as well. What good would it do to have Ron Paul as president or in the future to have a Ron Paul minded candidate as president if the mentality of the rest of the government remains the same. Sure to have the presidency would be a better way to spread the word, but there are over a million of us that voted for Ron Paul, I am sure many of you can run for local office and make a change, even if you have to become a Democrate or Republican to win. Get involved in the local parties and discuss and let the ideas be heard, they will stand on their own.
grant

A presidential candidacy is a pulpit.

It matters whose running for president, because he can get on the NATIONAL news and in debates to help influence public opinion. All Dr. Paul has been doing is trying to educate people about liberty and influence the debate in this country.

We need to try to get the polling numbers up of other presidential candidates that share Paul's general views so that they can get in the debates and in the news, to continue the goal of converting more Americans to a philosophy of limited government. The only two candidates that will broadcast those views are Barr and Baldwin, but Barr is the best bet to get into the news and debates.