Feingold and Dodd's FISA Hypocrisy: Lefties Are Not On Our Side

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I have an issue with the priorities that some libertarians are making although I agree with the need to stop the FISA vote from being yes.

1) Here they are saying that civil liberties should trump the fear of terrorists turning us to grease on the pavement.

2) Here they are saying that it is a civil liberty not to be passively listened to.

3) However nobody is complaining about the IMBRA law that takes away men's civil liberties in order to "protect foreign women" from even saying hello to a man who might beat her after he marries her. Now American men have to be background checked before they can use an internationally oriented online dating service and foreign women have to sign in writing, for each communication attempt, that she saw a man's background check, a process that takes time and thus directly interferes with two people communicating.

Becaue of the "written affidavit" clause, IMBRA makes it illegal for a a foreign woman to offer even her phone number for men to call (the website operator must not allow women to offer any chance that she might be contacted by a man before she signs in writing that she saw his background check). This is obviously worse than wiretapping. In cases where the woman may not read her email for several days or weeks, it often stops the conversation from happening at all.

So, given that they now know that laws exist that actively hamper phone conversations, why would a libertarian concentrate on stopping the government from simply passively listening into US-foreigner conversations?

The only answer would be that too many libertarians are really lefties in disguise who only protest passive government interference in international phone calls if it seems to come from a right-wing motivation to stop terrorists...but would never think of protesting active government interference in international phone calls if the feminists say it "might save one woman's life".

Apparently feminist concerns for the welfare of women can trump civil liberties of males (not to be background checked in order to say hello and not to have a communication attempt slowed down by government intervention)...and too many libertarians and lefties say NOTHING. Even some feminists are doing more to combat this than most libertarians who might still hold the delusion that feminist groups are fighting an "oppressive patriarchy":

http://www.ifeminists.net/introduction/editorials/2006/0111....

4) IMBRA directly hampers communication. There is nothing passive about it like wiretapping is. It does not involve the government just "listening in" on a conversation between a man and a foreign woman. It involves forcing her NOT to broadcast her contact information or say hello until after she fulfills a requirement of the US government to sign an affidavit saying she saw the American's background check. Foreigners no longer have the right to being called by a stranger on their secondary cell phone or via a post office box number.

Dodd and Feingold are HYPOCRITS to say that listening in is BAD but direct interference in Americans contacting foreigners is GOOD.

Let's see a little more perspective when we follow like sheep down one road to protest an eavesdropping law...but completely ignore that the Democrats like Dodd and Feingold have absolutely NO qualms about forcing you to be directly hampered in your communications with a foreigner if that foreigner is a woman.

If the NOW (National Organization of Women) wants all conversations between men and women to be regulated (not just those between Americans and foreign women), you can bet that not one Democrat or Republican will dare say a word against it. Nor can you be sure that freedom blogs like this will have more than one or two people like myself reminding you of what is really going on.

Here is another interesting article on the subject:

http://www.newswithviews.com/Roberts/carey193.htm

By all means, help stop the new FISA. But please show perspective and remember that the real lockdown of our rights is happening not because of the fear of terrorists, but because of the fear that American men might not be nice to foreign women: the Bush appointee Thomas Rose just said about IMBRA "There is no fundamental liberty interest in an American contacting a foreigner".

He said this to "protect the foreign women", not to protect us from terrorists. These government people will use whatever excuse it takes to get the same type of control.

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IMBRA, the International Marriage Broker Regulation Act,

[International Marriage Broker Regulation Act]
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"is a United States federal statute that requires background checks for those using international marriage agencies[1]. The impetus for its introduction was several high-profile cases (including the Susanna Blackwell case in 1995 and the Anastasia King case in 2000) in which women had been abused and/or murdered by men using these services. IMBRA was upheld by a federal judge in 2007[2]. However, it has been the subject of intense controversy ever since, because of free-speech and identity theft concerns. It also may increase the costs of or otherwise harm the mail order bride industry."

[ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMBRA ]

What you believe to be true, is true to you... "until you change your mind"

Wikipedia is guarded as well by those getting federal funding

In the fight against IMBRA, there was a terrible fight on Wikipedia just to stop lefties from lying and defining things on their terms.

For instance, if you go to the Tahirih Justice Center entry for Wikipedia, there is nothing but praise for the feminist organization that got the law passed...but if you go to the discussion section you will see that any attempt to bring in the truth was quashed by the moderator who turned out to be the son of the fundraiser for the organization.

When confronted with the fact that the son of the fundraiser was the main contributor to the article (and the main guard), other Wikipedia editors said "So what...he has not proven that he might be biased".

Look at the above Wiki definition: There is no such thing as a "mail order bride" industry. That is a derogatory term used to describe internationally-oriented dating sites. This will be the entire online dating industry if the law is upheld. The court said that "meeting someone is like buying a gun, both should require advance background checking".

Also, there are 10000 murdered wives per year in the US. The fact that 3 murders in 15 years happened to some foreign-born woman who was met on a dating website...is statistically significant only in terms of it being evidence that these are among the safest of relationships.

There are zero statistics that show any problem with the mostly upper income males who travel to date, especially compared to the stats of American men who, for instance, never leave a trailer park in their dating lives.

Either way, no government has a right to say "men in this subculture beat their wives more often so we will treat them like criminals and block their attempts to meet women". This is especially true when one considers that the Democrats would never regulate inner city black males in their dating pursuits regardless of any statistics that show that maybe they "should".

Do you think the Dems would require gay men on Gay.com to submit to HIV tests before being allowed to communicate with much younger adult gay males online?

With this, the Dems are going after an unprotected and politically naive and unprepared electorate: white upper income males.