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I can't even convince my family of what is going on...

I just spent the afternoon at a July 4th party at my dad's house. A few days ago, I sent my brothers and sisters an e-mail linking to Ron Paul's "Something Big is Going On" message, plus a message from Peter Schiff about the "Worst-Case Scenario." I also sent my dad RP's Manifesto book last month. My dad (76), an intelligent Penn graduate, pulled me aside and talked to me for 30 minutes, showing me his investment plan (stocks and bonds). He said I worried too much and I shouldn't have taken my 401K money out of the stock market. He said the market is cyclical and I shouldn't try to time it. I said I wasn't trying to time it, I just wanted out during this turmoil. And I said that I agreed the the market is cyclical, but this is a megacycle event coming up. The bear market of the 1970s lasted a long time, and I expect this one to last even longer. (Maybe more like the 30s, but I didn't say that because I knew what his reaction would have been.)

He told me that he read a book in the early 80s called "Crisis Investing" by Douglas Casey (which he just gave me) in which the author cried, "The sky is falling," just before the largest run-up of the stock market in recent memory. I told him that the conditions are a lot different (worse) than they were back then. My dad is afraid that if I keep my money on the sidelines, I will miss the next upward burst in the market. He is correct that these bursts are swift and unexpected (just like the downturns); I just don't see any upward bursts coming for several years.

Anyway, I think my family now sees me as a bit wacky with this RP stuff, even though I've been known as a calm, level-headed, somewhat boring guy all my life. I have failed to convince any of them of Ron Paul's wisdom, or even to consider parts of his message. I wanted them to protect their assets from the coming storm, and eventually to support the defense of the constitution. I admit that I have never been much of a salesman, but I can see why those of us promoting Ron Paul's message have a hard time converting a majority of Americans. I can't even convince my family.

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Americans have been asleep for a long time.

And it started in 1789 when the unconstitutional Constitution was created. Not only do we have the right to secede, but we also have the right to be represented directly.



unconstitutional Constitution is an oxymoron

Your father

is more intelligent than most, so the difficulty there is convincing him that something very unusual is happening, the destruction of the currency.

But for many sheeple (one of the managers who works for me is a typical nice, hard-working politically clueless person), a broader tactic is called for.

I just put this together, the first of 3 to come. It's meant to pique interest.


10-15 million more voters need to believe in non-interventionism (liberty) at home and abroad to change America. Minds changed on Syria. Minds changing on privacy. "Printing money" is part of the dialogue. Win minds through focus, strategy.

You should put out a companion video of..........


....a tour of the photos which are standing behind you of your family, etc.

We want to know who all those people are.

But great video. However, you failed to mention that the strikes after 9/11 should have been done on the guilty parties here in America - not overseas.


Polk County, Florida



Thank you..

This is the type of information we need to educate the masses,

You are a True Patriot!

And that comment you left on YouTube

was great, thanks much Felix. I'm going to see if I can get a thread floating here as quiltingsando suggested.

There are millions of people who know in their hearts that McCain and Obama offer no solutions for them. And, guess what, those millions have families they love. Broad messages that hit home can pave the way for us, it's been my experience for many years.

Thanks again.


10-15 million more voters need to believe in non-interventionism (liberty) at home and abroad to change America. Minds changed on Syria. Minds changing on privacy. "Printing money" is part of the dialogue. Win minds through focus, strategy.

Wow, what a beautiful

simple straight forward video. You should make your own thread for this. Michael should put this on the front page. To bad you didn't run against Barr I would have considered voting libertarian then. Peace

Prepare & Share the Message of Freedom through Positive-Peaceful-Activism.

That's a nice compliment

coming from you qs, thanks. Think I will start a thread on it.

- JP

10-15 million more voters need to believe in non-interventionism (liberty) at home and abroad to change America. Minds changed on Syria. Minds changing on privacy. "Printing money" is part of the dialogue. Win minds through focus, strategy.

The 10-Minute Patriot

Although my immediate family is on board with the R3VOLUTION, I was afraid of the reaction I might get from my extended family and friends if I dumped the whole RP message on them at once. It can easily overwhelm the average liberal or neo-con. At the same time I was interested in doing something with all this great information that comes across my hard drive by way of the DP and RP meetup e-mails. This led me to start an e-mail newsletter that I call "The 10-Minute Patriot". It's designed for my friends who, for whatever reason, are either misinformed or simply out-of-the-loop on political issues.

I want to give them a quick and easy way to become educated on a current topic along with a template for a letter they can use to contact their legislators regarding pertinent legislation. Most of what is in the "The 10-Minute Patriot" will not be news to Paulites but could be useful for disseminating to friends and family members.

I've published two issues so far: One on the NAU and one on the FED. If anyone would like to be on my mailing list, please contact me through the DP.

If it's any consolation

you're not alone. The only one in my family who really warmed up to Ron Paul's message is my little brother, and that happened independently of me. I had no luck at all with anyone on either mine or my husband's side of the family.

You did as much as you could

It's up to everyone to inform themselves and commit. We can't do that for other people, no matter how much we love them. It's like the Ayn Rand saying, "you can lay down your life and die for someone, but you can't live for them."

They drive me nuts!

My older sister insist I must vote for Mccain. I ask her what polocies of his impress you? Educate me on them. Her reply "I'm not going to talk polotics with you!" I asked her. "Please tell what he will do for our country. What are some of his stances on the war?" She replies "I'm not going to discuss it with you" I say."If you want me to vote for him I need to know more about him. Where did you get your information?" She says" I do'nt have time to look these things up you just need to be smart and vote for Mccain! I have to go you listen to what I tell you!" I say"But you did'nt tell me anything" She says " Gotta go. Bye " Whaaat??? My other sister says, 'We are doing the christain thing by having all these wars to help these countries that need us". Iran needs us? She says."Well they have a bomb and they could hurt others" We have bombs and there is no proof they do. Do'nt you watch the news?" Even Bush says might, could,ect.. not do. She says. Well you ca'nt just wait to find out" They been inspected 9 times without forknowledge and have been in no violation." but they know how to do it" Alot of ather countries already have them. " Well there is nothing we can do about that. Iran does'nt like Isreal and we have to protect the holy land." The holy land has plenty of nukes. silence

Pretty much the same here

My dad was the peace loving hippie type, and now he supports Bush because he's going to make us all safe from those dreaded terrorist hiding under our bed. Of course he's the same jackass that is freaking out over the salmonella EPIDEMIC, that has hit close to .015 % of the population. What a laugh these folks are. They were awake and taking on the current issues at one time, and now they're all fat, happy, and addicted to Fox and the rest of MSM that keeps telling them that we're all crazy for questioning our fearless (fearmongering) leaders in Washington.

On the other hand my ex-wife tells my kids (highly active with the freedom movement at the ages of 15 and 12) that I'm trying to brainwash them into my way of life and that everything is fine, that it's all in my head. The good thing is that my kids are smarter than she is by a long shot. She DEPENDS on Oprah, Dr. Phil, and Nancy Grace to tell her how to live, it's sickening. Either way, when the SHTF my kids will have their bellies full and a place to live, and the ex will be a world of hurt with the other naysayers and backbiters.

We have bought 40 acres to start homesteading and a lot of our family is moving out into some houses that the property already has. The rule is, you come out, then you help with the work. If you ridicule us for trying to get back to basics and get MSM out of our lives, the gate is forever closed. It seems rough, but we're going to have to decide who to help through this crisis, and it's not going to be a bunch of brain-washed sheeple who couldn't see the forest for the trees in my camp.

P.S. I absolutely can't wait to close on the land and hang my "Don't tread on me" flag. It is absolutely my favorite of all our flags.

thank you for this post

your story should be front page.

Jesus said to be like children...your kids are like that pure wisdom.

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That's awesome

that your kids have outsmarted their mother. Nancy Grace?! Tell mom to shove it.

When your family and friends are still clueless about politics

say to your family member/friend:

"OK. I see we have very different opinions on this. I want you to do me a favour. Remember we had this conversation. REMEMBER WHAT I SAID."

They will probably look at you like you are nuts. But it is still worth doing. Get them to summarise your views to see if they understand what you are saying. Leave it at that.

I tried this very simple technique on people in 2003, when US forces pulled down statues of Saddam Hussein, Dubya landed on the aircraft carrier and the British media lampooned "Comical Ali" - the Iraqi general who predicted disaster for the invaders.

I was still a lefty at the time, but I had enough common sense to realise that if a country is not already occupied by a foreign power, the natives get REALLY pissed off when you invade. I had also watched enough of the History Channel to understand the concept of asymmetric warfare.

I told my friends and family that Comical Ali wasn't even remotely funny. That he was absolutely correct in predicting disaster for the invaders. Of course, they all thought I needed medicating. But I told them to remember what I had said.

The rest is history, of course. I soon became their wise oracle for all things political :-)

Of course, now you can be a soothsayer too.

-"Ron Paul cured me of my predilection for Che Guevara T shirts."


"Ron Paul cured me of my predilection for Che Guevara T shirts."

Get a Samuel Adams T-shirt he was far more radical than Che Guevara could have evened hoped to be.

Most do not know but it was Samuel Adams who instigated much of the revolutionary atmosphere in Boston. He was behind many a burning efigee and the ransacking and burning down of Governor Hutchinson's manor.

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Well since I converted from Communism to Conservatism...

I should really be wearing shirts and sweater-vests instead of t-shirts now ;-)

-"Ron Paul cured me of my predilection for Che Guevara T shirts."

Thank God, my family thinks

Thank God, my family thinks I am wise. I waited till I had accumulated some very good videos and then I opened my subject...they got it immediately. They are now trying to enlighten people they work with. They get the blank look...and don't understand why. I tell them keep 'tapping'..no sledgehammers..just tap. Enough taps and the dots begin to converge.

It's astonishing to see the

It's astonishing to see the enormity of the state of denial in which most Americans live. Last week I went to see my in-laws and their family in Maine. They're all pretty reasonable, intelligent, people and talk politics fairly often. The discouraging thing to me was that while they could understand some of the financial ideas presented by Dr. Paul, they could NOT get past the idea of the 'danger from terrorists' and that we need to 'win the war' in Iraq, the 'danger from Iran' etc. It's like "standing knee deep in a river and dying of thirst" trying to talk with people who are still under the spell of the MSM. That's one reason I continue to try to educate people about 9/11 and why I support 9/11 truth. I believe that revealing 9/11 in all of its inside job glory is the best way to shake people out of their political coma, and start them on the road to understanding why we're where we are, and how to change it.



Truth is treason in an empire of lies.


be afraid to tell the truth.

The TRUTH shall set us free!!


I just aliented myself from my ex in-laws, feels good

I have remained nice and polite for 20 years since their daughter turned to drugs after only 6 months of marriage and a baby. So knowing that she was the looser always makes me feel better, and I assume pisses off the ex in-laws, plus I raised a beautiful little girl who is now a NAVY Airmen.

Anyhow, we have been on each others email list for years, jokes, prayers messages, the usual email crap. Obviously my email format has changed, I try to send 1-2 articles a day from the DP or Patrick.net (housing site) just letting people know whats up.

So yesterday I sent my "Independance Day" email to everyone. The ex mother in-law responds, "lighten up, you are taking politics way to seriuosly", well apparently my response was harsh and offensive, she asked to be removed from this list, only after she told me what a hard core Republican she was,

So naturally I attacked her "Hardcore Republican, I'm watch Fox with my blinders on" mentality. It was just informative stuff, but at the end i said it doesnt really matter I guess, "YOUR OFF THE LIST!"

They have all of their money in 401k retirement plans, I love it!

"Hard Core" Republican?

At eighteen I joined the Republican Party and the U. S. Army. My first Commmander in Chief was Ronald Reagan - I am a hard core Republican.

Your ex mother in law is in fact a Trotskyite Communist aka Nonconservative.

Ron Paul is a hard core Republican!
William Taft was a hard core Republican!

I make it my personal mission to inform anyone who claims to be a neocon or a Bush backer that they are in fact Communists. If they want to support communist political philosophies they should be required to were the colors.

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yeah its hard same here...I

yeah its hard same here...I guess showing them some ron paul speeches videos might do the trick.. though my parents don't have a dvd..so might have to buy em one..

"the author cried, "The sky

"the author cried, "The sky is falling," just before the largest run-up of the stock market in recent memory"

It goes both ways. This is the perfect response:


I had the same thing occur

American's shall remain willfully ignorant until someone slaps them in the face like on 9/11. Then they'll dig in and be even more ignorant. I actually can't wait for the crash to occur so that all these ignorant people can start nibbling on a rather large slice of humble pie.

The red pill

It's human nature. The system has worked for some people so they see no problem. Many retirees and older folks have good pensions, Social Security, accumulated wealth and they think things are hunky dory in the good old USA. It doesn't matter to them that younger folks are at the bottom of the SS pyramid scheme or that we are now supposed to be fighting endless war. They've got theirs. I have relatives who think the same way. They don't see a problem. People don't care until their toes have been stepped on, some issue dear to their hearts is affected. For me it was my kids and the government brainwashing gulag ("public schools"). For my husband it is gun rights. When the economy tanks and your dad starts losing money he will change his tune.


Keep hitting them with confirmed facts that back up your assertions. This is what I have been doing and it is working...slowly but surely.

"The body is but a vessel for the soul,
A puppet which bends to the soul's tyranny.
And lo, the body is not eternal,
For it must feed on the flesh of others,
Lest it return to the dust whence it came.
Therefore the soul deceives and despises."

About the next stock market upswing

When he says stock market upswing I think he might be talking about the next bubble. Bubbles are bad. They're artificial and you can lose a lot of money that way. The next bubble is going to be a commodities bubble created by the federal reserve.
"We will never give up. We will never give in." - Dr. Ron Paul

"We will never give up. We will never give in." - Dr. Ron Paul

Have to disagree about the next bubble

the next bubble is here and it is also thanks to the FED. This asset bubble is the Federal Reserve Note, and it is picking up speed in its devaluation. Just think of it as deflation of the dollar.