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COPPERCARDS ANNOUNCES THE BANK FOR THE NEW MILLENNIUM

SILICON VALLEY, California, U.S.A. Friday, June 13, 2008 – “Banks charging interest on money is over. A new day has dawned for commerce in America and around the world," said Clive Boustred, one of the foremost strategists and architects for banking technologies world-wide at a press conference today.

The event signaled the announcement of CopperCards Bank, a free-market-valued, asset-backed trading and banking system that is a viable replacement for today's money. CopperCards Bank Asset Exchange has, according to Boustred and others in the industry, significant advantages over current banking systems and money as we know it. They went on to explain that almost anything can be registered, appraised and turned into 'Coppers' the bank's trading currency. Second, every Copper issued is backed by real verified assets valued at real-time market value. Third, there are no interest charges or transaction fees to use the CopperCards Bank.

Users of CopperCards Bank and Asset Exchange will be able to turn assets into a means to buy the things that they need to run businesses or feed their families. The users’ don¹t have to go through the steps imposed upon them by the current banking system. Money, as we know it today, is eliminated. In no case will those using the system have to use the U. S. dollar or any other existing currency, although they can if they want to. Not having to convert to money offers tremendous advantages to all participants, according to Boustred.

Today's money is made out of noting and backed by noting, or otherwise known as "fiat" money. As most financial specialist already realize, the US dollar does not represent an ounce of gold, a piece of real estate or anything that could be appraised for a market price. Instead, its value hinges on imaginary and dangerous perception. If people loose faith in the U.S. the dollar plummets in value. If the Fed makes too much money, then demand reduces and the value of the money drops. The Fed has been printing so much money that in 2006 they stopped publishing the M3 money production report.

Almost all the world's banking is now based on imaginary value or fiat money.

If the United States corporate government collapsed, the money that they gave the Fed bank owners the exclusive franchise to make, would no longer be accepted to purchase anything, and it would assume the same value as Iraqi dinars. In the CopperCards Bank system, currency with value, such as gold coins, would be accepted as payment for anything even after any government no loner exists. Most major currencies in the world are fiat currencies due to flaws in the global banking scheme of central or reserve banks.

The global banking scheme was originated by a number of privately-owned banks who appear to be, but are not government agencies. They are mostly owned by the Rothschild’s family. Until recently, most Americans were unaware that the Federal Reserve Bank is in fact, private. This insight has sent tremors throughout markets and into the mainstream.

Most of these banks are owned by a small number of individuals who therefore control the overwhelming majority of the world's wealth. This includes the United States Federal Reserve Bank, which makes the money out of nothing then sells their money and charges interest on top of that to the United States government, other governments’ and the public. It is this fiat money made out of nothing and backed by nothing that in effect, eats the labor and lives of Americans.

Through the Federal Reserve, that same small group controls the flow of this fiat currency, charge interest and fees for the use of their money. They have made a fortune doing so. For example, when a buyer purchases a billion dollars of oil from Iraq, the buyer first has to purchase a billion dollars of US currency from the owners of the Federal Reserve Bank. The buyer has to give gold, oil or something of value in order to purchase the billion US dollars. This means that the FED owners receive real assets for money they made out of nothing.

The CopperCards Bank eliminates fiat money or the ability of the bank to make money out of nothing. The CopperCards Banking system and the Asset Exchange ensure that the Coppers currency represent actual value. A house, a piece of land, precious metals, gems, minerals, inventories of manufactured goods, raw materials, services , Dollars or Euros etc. can all be represented in Coppers. Coppers represent real value just as gold coins once did. However, Coppers have an important distinction, their value will not diminish unexpectedly because the Coppers currency trading exchange is designed so that it cannot fail. Accounts in the CopperCards Bank are insured to an unlimited value.

Clive Boustred, founder and architect of CopperCards and InfoTelesys, who provided the systems architecture to some of the world's largest and most successful banking systems, said, “The gold standard is based on the construct that anyone who can find shiny stuff is king, but at least the gold itself is worth something. The Federal Reserve Bank astonishingly literally makes money out of nothing and backs it with nothing and charges interest on top of that!” Clive went on to add “Whether money is printed on paper, metal or cotton, is not the issue, the issue is interest and asset backed currency. CopperCards Bank provides a true asset-backed interest-free currency that eliminates bankers, governments, or corporations' ability to manipulate markets, economies and money supply for their own interest.”

By utilizing innovation in the technological and communications fields, the CopperCards Bank is able to introduce a truly revolutionary banking architecture that eliminates what has been the root cause of a great deal of corruption, many if not most depressions and most major wars. What could be described as an integrated Stock Exchange, E-Bay, Craig’s List and Advanced next-generation Communications system, this CopperCards trading banking infrastructure can provide significant relief to troubled economies.
Main site:
http://www.coppercards.com/
Link to this article:
http://www.coppercards.com/services/coppercards_bank.htm
RPR archive:
http://www.qustom.com/whatif/RPRRadio_2008-04-04-Fri_11am_Hr...




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This will not work.

They will be attempting to get around taxes using a barter system.

This is highly illegal. They will be jailed and their assets will be confiscated.

Also, if accounts have the backing of copper or some other commodity, these markets are highly volitile in the short term. They can not gaurauntee a return on a savings account.

Maybe their model accounts for this, but I would be very suspect.

If Ron Paul is elected, then maybe.

WAHOR!!

I hope they will clarify that point.

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I think I understand

It looks to me that they are going to create an online marketplace ala eBay, Craigslist, BullionDirect, etc, where you can buy or sell goods using a closed currency - the Copper. Basically, GoldMoney - but in a fixed marketplace. Could be good; if it gets to the eBay or Craigslist level, might be viable for daily use. Could have a better shot at success than GoldMoney - by establishing the marketplace rather than trying to get the Market to use it. But *sigh*, even if every RPer started using it, I don't think it'll be a serious challenge to fiat.

Of course.. if any small towns out there started using Coppers as a local currency and plug thier economy in the marketplace... it'd be a different story.

Oh, I see. That sounds interesting. I wish the web site was

easier to understand. It seems to me that they rant how they started a lot, but I had no clue what they started.

Why can't they have something like what you wrote if that is what they have? It's so much easier to understand.

By the way, in my view, they should NOT be a serious challenge to fiat (the Fed). I think they should help the users, for example, the users can obtain lots of life necessities, but I think they should be legal and more importantly small enough that not many people would care, especially the fed. However, at the same time, I think many communities (on-line or local) should start something similar assuming it's legal, so that if they get attacked and shut down, people can use one of 1000's of other places like that. This is how people should fight, in my opinion. We got numbers. I think trying to replace the Fed with another large organization is unrealistic. It's better to do something like what you described in 1000's of small communities assuming that is legal.

What do you think?

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how it works

If you do not fully understand how this (or any investment) works, stay far far away from it.

I um...

...have to (gulp) agree with Rhino on this one. This really needs to be scrutinized before blindly accepting the validity of it.

Careful as she goes folks.

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Any more opinions on this?

Any more opinions on this? It doesn't appear that you 'need' to participate in the banking or trading portions. The concept of organizing local groups into protective groups that stand up for each other is not bad. The educational aspect is a plus as well.

Caution is always good, but it can be taken to paranoid levels. The more eyes and brains that look at this and analyze...the better.

So?

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Not really I'm afraid.

Until, they walk one or several of our in media broadcasters threw how this is suppose to work. There isn't much more that can be said. RPR covered this a little but they really need to get another interview.

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"But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it."

Text of the e-mail recieved July 7th to 57chevypreterist

Did anyone else receive an e-mail about CopperCards? has anyone checked it out? Does anyone wish to share any information or thoughts?
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/54389#comment-545249

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scam

scam

prove it

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"But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it."

no thanks, i'll let you go

no thanks, i'll let you go ahead and find out :) report back with the news when you've participated in coppercards©

lol

punk =D

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"But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it."

CopperCards VS. CopperCards BANK

OK, so it looks to me that CopperCards BANK is a new service by CopperCards. Am I right? In any case, I still don't understand how CopperCards BANK works.

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Interesting ...

The whois lookup trails back to a consulting company called Stategize. They apparently did business for a number of big outfits like Microsoft, Boeing, Motorola, Open Software Foundation, Lucent, Intelsat, Bank of America, etc.... Scroll to the bottom and click C-Laws, it shows some marketing/profit charts.

Their site is at: http://www.strategize.com

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Link to an interview with Clive Boustred

From the gone but never forgotten Ron Paul Revolution Radio... sniff, sniff

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Cool thanks you

Cool thanks you rock!

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"But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it."

OK, 22 min into the interview, he finally started to talk about

the CopperCards. Let's see what he says.

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30min into the interview, I'm still confused. Humm....

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."
Benjamin Franklin

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Perhaps

RPR needs to do another interview and do a CopperCard exclusive.

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"But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it."

I had to stop for a while and I'm at 39 min, but so far

what I got is that CoperCards are not money. It's more like cards with information and a community that shares the information, I think. ... TeamLaw comes to my mind, but maybe more user friendly???

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."
Benjamin Franklin

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Now, they are talking about Lindsey Williams. Humm....

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."
Benjamin Franklin

government of the people, by the people, for the people
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So, the interview didn't mention anything about CopperCards BANK

but, now that I think about it, it was because CopperCards BANK wasn't introduced at the time of the interview. I think. Anyway, I still don't understand how CopperCards BANK works.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."
Benjamin Franklin

government of the people, by the people, for the people
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Be careful with this one ....

people.

WAHOR!!

Why? Could you explain?

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."
Benjamin Franklin

government of the people, by the people, for the people
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Remember the old adage, "if

Remember the old adage, "if something sounds too good to be true it probably is." Always better to error on the side of caution. Mike Badnarak and Richard Mack are on the team, Mack is the CEO. It's definitely worth looking into. But, eyes wide open, ya know? They're saying things I wanna hear but I'm not seeing how this is to be implemented into our lives.

We need to get someone from their camp on air at Revolution Radio and get some discloser on the subject.

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"But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it."

Interesting new option...

I need to do some more research...

So how does this work? Can someone explain?

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."
Benjamin Franklin

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I wish i could but only made

I wish i could but only made the discovery myself yesterday.

I hope you read up and perhaps can share your own insight as some point.

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"But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it."