DEBUNK THIS *Update* 11/20/08
"The building is about to blow up."
"Keep your eye on that building, it'll be coming down."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NEfgtefczo&feature=email
The fire dept. could not have predicted that fire would collapse the building as it had never happened before in the entire history of the world. Never ever has a high rise steel structured building collapsed by fire on the face of the planet. Never. How were they able to be absolutely positive it was coming down? How was the cop absolutely certain the building was "about to blow up"?
Then there's Silverstein's admission that the fire department "pulled it" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WYdAJQV100) which is an old demolition term: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJI6YvK_TK0 (Jump to 1:26 to hear a demolition team at Ground Zero using the term "pull" before they demolish WTC6.) According to NIST’s WTC collapse lead investigator Shyam Sunder, “There was no firefighting in WTC7,” and additionally the FEMA report stated “No manual firefighting actions were taken by FDNY.” Silverstein had to be refering to WTC7 and not a fire team, as some erroneously theorize.
Thus, the building was set up well in advance to 9/11 as it is ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE to rig a building of that size in 5 hours. You couldn't even do it in 5 days, in perfect conditions. And we all know how perfectly symmetical its collapse is. That was a perfect job. A global simultaneous collapse of all supports is preposterous given the extent of damage. This has been confirmed by over five hundred engineers and architects: http://www.ae911truth.org/.
Russo puts the pieces together for you if you are unable: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1cvdu_aaron-russo-says-911....
New Footage of WTC7 Collapse (Released 11/1/08)
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v16415017FADebtjf
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=972ETepp4GI
Silvertstein...
made 7 billion dollars profit off of 911. Bush Cheney and their cohorts made millions and millions more. The whole day was a planned assault on the American People by their own government. How did Osama Bin Laden, Sadam Hussien or Alqueda benefit from 911? We have a bunch of murderous thieves running things in Washington. Period. That is why our Country is self-destructing. In a fair election with fair media coverage Ron Paul wins the Presidency by a landslide. Once Bush is out the shit will start to hit the fan. There is no more important issue today than the 911 fraud that was perpetrated on all of us.
9/11 was an inside job .....time to get some answers..RP 2008
9/11 was an inside job .....time to get some answers..RP 2012
You can't just walk away, fellow patriot.
An out-of-control government attacking it's own citizens has to be exposed and dealt with appropriately. If Lassie went mad and took to killing the sheep, Timmy would be heart-broken, but he wouldn't just walk away.
I have studied many philosophers and many cats. The wisdom of cats is infinitely superior.--Hippolyte Taine
Not walking away
I'll be keeping a keen eye on things; I just don't have time to waste on debating the subject anymore. It no longer needs anymore debate.
"There can be only one permanent revolution - a moral one: The regeneration of the inner man."
—Tolstoy
"I was in the delivery room in [Mombasa,] Kenya when he was born Aug. 4, 1961."
—Sarah Obama (Obama's paternal grandmother)
"The body is but a vessel for the soul,
A puppet which bends to the soul's tyranny.
And lo, the body is not eternal,
For it must feed on the flesh of others,
Lest it return to the dust whence it came.
Therefore the soul deceives and despises."
...
LETS FUCKING GET OUR GUNS .... and start shooting ...
or we can win in an intelectial war :)
either way I gotta live how I want .... smoke weed, drink beer , fuck women and live free...
PEACEEEE
"Universal Truth Is Not Measured In Mass Appeal" - Immortal Technique - The 4th Branch.
I'm done with 9/11
The verdict is in and I have other things to concentrate on in life. Perhaps when new evidence is found I'll make a comment or two.
"There can be only one permanent revolution - a moral one: The regeneration of the inner man."
—Tolstoy
"I was in the delivery room in [Mombasa,] Kenya when he was born Aug. 4, 1961."
—Sarah Obama (Obama's paternal grandmother)
"The body is but a vessel for the soul,
A puppet which bends to the soul's tyranny.
And lo, the body is not eternal,
For it must feed on the flesh of others,
Lest it return to the dust whence it came.
Therefore the soul deceives and despises."
hmmm...
there was no firefighting because there was nothing to fight it with...no water
the distortions in WTC7 are fairly obvious well before it collapsed. That is not demolition, is it?
All 3 of the WTC's that collapsed were "built on the cheap" and, in retrospect, pretty shitty designs safetywise. When I look at how they are constructed it doesn't surprise me at all that they collapsed.
h-daddy
You are
the only person I've ever encountered who believes WTC 1 and 2 were poorly constructed. Those buildings were considered to be state of the art at the time, and structural engineers for decades used to say enviously, "we don't build'em like that anymore."
Come on
I am so sick and tired of new 9/11 truthers posting this stuff here...
YOU ARE PREACHING TO THE CHOIR.......MOST OF US UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED, or UNDERSTAND THE BULLSHIT BEHIND 9/11.
The reason why us long time Ron Paul supporters do not like this shit on this site is because of the thousands of guests reading these posts for the first time....
This just scares the hell out of people like my dad.......So do us all a big favor.......we understand your post...and we all, already got it.
YES, their was a bunch of BS with 9/11.....and we all get it....
Just do all of us a favor...and keep it off this site.....
We are trying to get people to understand the freedom and liberty that we desire......The truth will come out in time.......you know it...and I know it....
just keep it off the DP.
So I will ask you one time....can you delete this thread in respect for the good Doctor!
Hold on
You're saying that you don't like the truther stuff posted on the DP because first timers come here and get turned off? I think the biggest turn off on the Daily Paul is the hunt and harrassment of "Trolls". It smacks of collectivism and everything Ron Paul is NOT about, as he proved in his Press Conference..it's time to Unite.
People who do not want to believe 911 was an inside job are fearful, they fear the govt., they will take the Real ID, they will go to FEMA camps, they will never make a stand for themselves or anyone else, but they will make a stand against individual right to believe what they find as truth.
Meanwhile, the Democrats have repeatedly said the forming of a North American Union is Conspiracy Theory, and I have seen brutal attacks on Ron Paul rEVOLution for it's taking Corsi and the JBS's "side"..
Why does DP has no problem with NAU conspiracy but truthers are another subject? Because those who opposed Truthers here on DP put the GOP above truth.
Ron Paul's take, on 911 was a brilliant approach to foreign policy, appears Obama has stolen Dr Paul's take, that They attacked US because of our foreign policy. The difference, Ron Paul never said Al Qaida, as Obama does.
Truthers are those who took the red pill. They are willing to seek and find the truth. The rest are helping to protect the real criminals.
WE ARE GOING TO WIN!
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So when you say, not appropriate here, what in Gods name are you talking about?
How about we don't talk about the FED, or the International foreign policy,
what else would you like to cut out?
The patriot act is based on 911. It's VERY relevant.
Inappropriate topic
This has nothing to do with Ron Paul or this movement. All these issues can do is distract us from the real mission and make us look like kooks.
I'm not attacking your beliefs, sir. But if you want to spread this information you shouldn't be doing it here.
Ron Paul, Benazir Bhutto, and Osama Bin Laden
Dr. Paul has frequently "quoted" Osama Bin Laden as purportedly saying things such as "I am glad you are on our soil so that we may target you so much more easily"......
I do wonder what Dr. Paul would say if asked about Benazir Bhutto's comments to David Frost before her assassination?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMiuFx6rQbE
Beliefs?
I'm stating hard facts--that's it. Do you have a problem with 100% facts?
This has nothing to do with Ron Paul? Is Ron Paul an American? Are you an American? This has everything to do with everything. Nothing on this planet is more important than this. If the truth were to be known the 'War on Terror' is finished, the Republic is restored, and the NWO comes crashing down. Evil would be thwarted..for the moment.
Every atom in the universe is effected by this, and you are telling me it is inappropriate to mention it?
"The body is but a vessel for the soul,
A puppet which bends to the soul's tyranny.
And lo, the body is not eternal,
For it must feed on the flesh of others,
Lest it return to the dust whence it came.
Therefore the soul deceives and despises."
You said ...
Silverstein had to be refering to WTC7 and not a fire team, as some erroneously theorize.
Thus, the building was set up well in advance to 9/11 as it is ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE to rig a building of that size in 5 hours. You couldn't even do it in 5 days, in perfect conditions
These are not facts. They are speculation.
You also said ...
A global simultaneous collapse of all supports is preposterous given the extent of damage. This has been confirmed by hundreds of engineers and architects:
This is a fact, but there are other possibilities other than controlled demolition.
WAHOR!!
WAHOR!!
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You Sir
In God We Trust!
From your comments Rino, one can quickly see that you are an idiot!
" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~
How I am judged by others ...
is not up to you or me.
WAHOR!!
WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48994
Wrong
My role, it seems, is to constantly correct you:
"Silverstein had to be refering to WTC7 and not a fire team, as some erroneously theorize.
Thus, the building was set up well in advance to 9/11 as it is ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE to rig a building of that size in 5 hours. You couldn't even do it in 5 days, in perfect conditions
These are not facts. They are speculation."
Wrong. Have you ever heard of a preponderance of evidence? This is as good as fact in a court of law.
"You also said ...
A global simultaneous collapse of all supports is preposterous given the extent of damage. This has been confirmed by hundreds of engineers and architects:
This is a fact, but there are other possibilities other than controlled demolition."
Those possiblities have been given their due weight and have been found to be untenable and improbable.
"WAHOR!!"
See above.
"The body is but a vessel for the soul,
A puppet which bends to the soul's tyranny.
And lo, the body is not eternal,
For it must feed on the flesh of others,
Lest it return to the dust whence it came.
Therefore the soul deceives and despises."
I truely wish for you to be correct ...
The truth is we do not know the truth.
WAHOR!!
WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48994
That is for a court to decide, not you
"The truth is we do not know the truth."
Relativism has destroyed your mind Rhino. The evidence of guilt is staring at you in the face. A court of law makes the decision on whether it is fact or not, not you, so your statement is false.
"The body is but a vessel for the soul,
A puppet which bends to the soul's tyranny.
And lo, the body is not eternal,
For it must feed on the flesh of others,
Lest it return to the dust whence it came.
Therefore the soul deceives and despises."
No court of law dictates truth to me ...
For the record ...
I am an objectivist, therefore, truth is not relative in my mind.
Be patient, pray, and meditate. It really works.
WAHOR!!
WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48994
I pray everyday
Being objective is very important, and in my research I have kept an open mind because I did not want to believe any of this at first. Who would want to!? It's still very hard today even, but I know it is the right thing to do for humanity. This 9/11 odyssey for me began just 9 months ago when I first woke up. As the weight of the evidence piled up and up over the months it eventually became so insurmountable it clearly became apparent that I would be a fool to think any other way. A few times I said to myself, "Maybe this is just some huge conspiracy theory I've been suckered into," trying to rationalize my fears and shield myself from the truth I was seeing but the evidence kept piling and piling and piling..up up up and up from so many different sources and the connections were made, holes were filled, and the big picture came into clear focus.
No one can tell me anything different now. It is just a matter of time, will there be justice or not? That is all there is left....
"The body is but a vessel for the soul,
A puppet which bends to the soul's tyranny.
And lo, the body is not eternal,
For it must feed on the flesh of others,
Lest it return to the dust whence it came.
Therefore the soul deceives and despises."
I pray, for your own well being ...
that you are correct.
I know that if I had formed such a strong conviction and I later found out this not to be the case, my life would never be the same.
I too have compiled evidence. I searched for evidence in support of all theories. So has many others.
The only thing that I am convinced of is that we do not have enough evidence to make a strong arguement for any theory.
I do think that if freedom prevails, we may get the information and evidence that we seek.
For example; There is a very very very high probability that we have detailed satilite evidence some where tucked away in a top secret file. Such imagary, using Infared technology amoung other technologies can help us answer a lot of the questions.
God Speed
WAHOR!!
WAHOR!!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/48994
I fully
understand WT7 is the ..."Smoking Gun"....and it can not be rationally explained by any of our government. But I do think we should keep the 9/11 stuff off this site.
I understand the twin towers came down...not from jet fuel!
No plane hit the pentagon....
Flight 93 did not crash nose first in Pennsylvania.....
And I know WT7 did not just magically fall.
Also...I know that war games were being played the same day 9/11 happened representing the exact scenarios that we witnessed....
All of this stuff will never come to the surface until we are all dead and gone.
Just as the "Gulf of Tonkin" or the "Reichstag Fires"
False Flags are a part of this government. So I understand your motives....and I wish we could convince all of the sheeple.....but your efforts need to be directed towards getting Ron Paul thinking type people into power.
Don't get me wrong.......after 5 years of research I can answer it all, in regards to 9/11. I have the videos, and the links to back it all up...but the average person will not hear these cries.............Let 9/11 go...and do not bring Ron Paul into it.
All this does, is make Ron Paul look less credible, and the majority of the United States does not understand what we know, or will just deny the facts when presented....
I have been through this frustration........just let it go and move forward!
Let the biggest event in American history go?
I don't think that is ever going to happen. This is the creation myth of the fascist state we now live in. To leave evil be is to accept it.
"The body is but a vessel for the soul,
A puppet which bends to the soul's tyranny.
And lo, the body is not eternal,
For it must feed on the flesh of others,
Lest it return to the dust whence it came.
Therefore the soul deceives and despises."
Well
I typed for years on many different sites...and finally gave up. The best paper written in my opinion is from Dr. Steven Jones (Physicist) from BYU. This paper has never been challenged by any of his colleges...and appears to me to be the truth.
48 pages of FACTS.
http://wtc7.net/articles/WhyIndeed09.pdf
It is just so hard to get the average "Joe" to understand..... I gave up!
I hope you can take this info and run with it........It is the truth!
Hm
Lots of activity since I last checked on this thread. I see the shills have been hard at work, alas, ultimately to no avail m'fraid.....
"The body is but a vessel for the soul,
A puppet which bends to the soul's tyranny.
And lo, the body is not eternal,
For it must feed on the flesh of others,
Lest it return to the dust whence it came.
Therefore the soul deceives and despises."
My favorite videos of WTC 7
is the BBC broadcaster info-babe reporting the collpase of WTC 7 ....while it is in the background standing tall and looking good...before it's collapse! And of course Aaron Brown made the same mistake....guess that was ESP...talk about getting the early scoop. Reporting the collapse of a building before it collpased is some seriously good reporting. Love that live cam!
Gutsy Canadian Rejects False Flag in Advance
http://curtmaynardsblog.blogspot.com/2008/07/if-you-try-to-p...
3 minutes - excellent
Appreciate the link
We need a few Americans with this caliber of courage.
"The body is but a vessel for the soul,
A puppet which bends to the soul's tyranny.
And lo, the body is not eternal,
For it must feed on the flesh of others,
Lest it return to the dust whence it came.
Therefore the soul deceives and despises."
Simple: If you were caught
Simple: If you were caught up in the moment of a terrorist attack, being a bystander, watching two of the worlds tallest building get hit by two massive airplanes, and you heard the rumbling, you saw the smoke, the fire, the people running....dont you think you would say something like "blow up"?
When I shake up a can of coke, and then open it, people say "Be careful, it might blow up."
Its just a phrase. And the pull it has already been debunked. Get a life.