Submitted by Habit4ming on Mon, 07/14/2008 - 18:09.
now we have Barr people here on this post pretending to be Baldwin people...rich, very rich....always felt, then later stated that it was all a big plot to divert us from Ron Paul... that certain NON-Ron Paul people signed up here a looonnnggg time ago to pretend to be supporters, so their supposed (length of) service to the Revolution would be believable....
People, a reminder, Ron Paul supports and likes both Baldwin and Barr and neither one of them is the enemy! Take a step back, breath and try to see the bigger picture of the movement...
PS. It is possible to endorse one candidate and support another...
So during Naomi's speech did you just turn it off, or did you support her and listen to what she said? Kucinich, did you support his Impeachment bill or dismiss it as garbage?
Man, Kevin, your just trying to find an enemy everywhere you go...We can support more than one candidate you know.
Submitted by Kevin Tuma on Mon, 07/14/2008 - 18:37.
You aren't hearing me. I am saying that my views on Bob Barr are based on my judgment of whether or not I would vote for him for President, and I wouldn't, based on his record on civil liberties. I wouldn't vote for Dennis Kucinich because he's a socialist, and if Naomi Wolf ran for office, I wouldn't vote for her for the same reason.
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Kevin, Barr is not the enemy. I know you won't vote for him, but it is possible to support someone you don't vote for. Barr and Baldwin are on our side, and we should support them both, while you vote for one.
have said it a million times... Why would you vote for Barr? He VOTED FOR THE PATRIOT ACT. Now before you go spouting... well it was unintentional, that IS NO EXCUSE. Intentional or not the damage is done. If he was guilty of not reading it, he is lacking in his constitutional duties to the citizens of this country. If he read it and voted for it, well he's a traitor to this country and it's people. He was traitorous because he voted yes. The jig is up. It's too late for the "Im'a Constitutionalist" speech, dont ya think? And NOOOOO it's not possible for me to support someone I wouldn't vote for. If I wouldn't vote for Barr why would I support him?
Submitted by Kevin Tuma on Tue, 07/15/2008 - 00:41.
"If he was guilty of not reading it, he is lacking in his constitutional duties to the citizens of this country. If he read it and voted for it, well he's a traitor to this country and it's people."
Allow me to interject: Bob Barr is a very well-read, intelligent man. There is no way in the world he voted for the Patriot Act without reading it and without knowing exactly what it stood for.
For that matter, all he had to do was listen to Dr. Paul. Dr. Paul was sounding off on the Patriot Act back in Fall 2001, like Paul Revere.
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Submitted by Kevin Tuma on Mon, 07/14/2008 - 23:36.
If he's running against my candidate, am I supposed to support him?
I do appreciate your polite tone--compared to other Barr posters who have called Baldwin supporters snake handlers and "Jesus Juice drinkers"--but you still often make no sense.
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Submitted by ShannonOBrien on Mon, 07/14/2008 - 15:01.
I liked Chuck Baldwin until I read that he supports cutting off all trade to China. That would destroy our economy and China's economy considering 70% of everything we own is "made in China." But I could deal with that. Then I read an article he wrote that was totally homophobic which is a deal breaker for me. So I had to choose between a homophobe or an ex-neo con and I've chosen the ex-neo con.
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Submitted by SIERRAHPBT on Mon, 07/14/2008 - 15:09.
I would take the homophobe! homosexuality is perversion .I don't like perverts! but then again its your life if you want to take part in that then its your business not mine.. just don't push it on me.. do what you do in your own bedroom and don't make me accept what you do and accept it as normal.. BECAUSE IT IS NOT!
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Submitted by artistsforRP on Mon, 07/14/2008 - 23:28.
seems that some in the Freedom Movement would rather
Major on the Minors - when it comes to the Issues.
Rather than notice that no other candidate stands with Ron Paul on
the major issues - because CB is a Christian Pastor - the minor
family issues get brought up - But, this is only because CB identifies
himself with Jesus Christ - and those specific people don't like that.
So be it - Chuck Baldwin 2008
But let's all be sure to come together in September on the 1st and 2nd.
We have to take over Minneapolis in a big, big way!
Submitted by ShannonOBrien on Mon, 07/14/2008 - 17:53.
I'm not a homosexual. But I have a family member who is and friends who are.
I don't understand the argument when people say "do whatever you want in your own bedroom but don't push it on me!" Do a lot of homosexuals try to get heterosexuals to have same sex relationships? I've certainly never heard a single case.
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Submitted by hopefulfilled on Mon, 07/14/2008 - 18:31.
First off, I have friends who are too, and relatives who are homosexual too. I am a Christian and believe it is a sin, but I also believe that Christians are NOT to judge unbelievers. What they want to do among themselves is fine with me, but when they push themselves and their lifestyle on me, or mine, I do get a bit upset. A man who was my son's boss where he worked tried to push himself on my son. A female relative tried pushing herself on another of my relatives. And while my 7 year old was having xrays by a homosexual, he tried to get my son alone in the darkroom with him. There, now you have it, 3 cases. And we basically live a sheltered life, homeschooled, etc. I don't speak out about homosexuals in the schools, mostly because it is public school, and it doesn't concern me as I homeschool.
Submitted by KatieinVT on Mon, 07/14/2008 - 18:27.
Homosexuals flaunt their sexuality (at least in my neck of the woods). I don't like to see hetrosexuals lip-locked either. There are some things that should be kept private.
Simple question: Why target 2 year olds? I don't get targeting and indoctrinating a child who's mind is only beginning to develop. I just don't get it.
The gay plan is to break down the family and get people to feel the narcotic of determining right and wrong for themselves (Gen.3:5). The sad fact is the homo's are being played the same way NWO Rockefellar funded the womens movement.
Interesting
that Chuck Baldwin spoke immediately before Ron Paul - at DC March...
in introductory fashion!
Sort of like of team!
yep! if not Ron Paul then
yep! if not Ron Paul then its Chuck Baldwin for me!
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I found that interesting as
I found that interesting as well.
I wonder if there's an endorsement down the road.
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OMG, thank you for the big laugh....
now we have Barr people here on this post pretending to be Baldwin people...rich, very rich....always felt, then later stated that it was all a big plot to divert us from Ron Paul... that certain NON-Ron Paul people signed up here a looonnnggg time ago to pretend to be supporters, so their supposed (length of) service to the Revolution would be believable....
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Reminder: Paul likes both Baldwin and Barr
People, a reminder, Ron Paul supports and likes both Baldwin and Barr and neither one of them is the enemy! Take a step back, breath and try to see the bigger picture of the movement...
PS. It is possible to endorse one candidate and support another...
Paul likes Naomi Wolf and
Paul likes Naomi Wolf and Dennis Kucinich, too, but I have no plans to vote for them.
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So you don't support them?
So during Naomi's speech did you just turn it off, or did you support her and listen to what she said? Kucinich, did you support his Impeachment bill or dismiss it as garbage?
Man, Kevin, your just trying to find an enemy everywhere you go...We can support more than one candidate you know.
You aren't hearing me. I am
You aren't hearing me. I am saying that my views on Bob Barr are based on my judgment of whether or not I would vote for him for President, and I wouldn't, based on his record on civil liberties. I wouldn't vote for Dennis Kucinich because he's a socialist, and if Naomi Wolf ran for office, I wouldn't vote for her for the same reason.
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So you can't support Barr...
Kevin, Barr is not the enemy. I know you won't vote for him, but it is possible to support someone you don't vote for. Barr and Baldwin are on our side, and we should support them both, while you vote for one.
If I have said this once, I
have said it a million times... Why would you vote for Barr? He VOTED FOR THE PATRIOT ACT. Now before you go spouting... well it was unintentional, that IS NO EXCUSE. Intentional or not the damage is done. If he was guilty of not reading it, he is lacking in his constitutional duties to the citizens of this country. If he read it and voted for it, well he's a traitor to this country and it's people. He was traitorous because he voted yes. The jig is up. It's too late for the "Im'a Constitutionalist" speech, dont ya think? And NOOOOO it's not possible for me to support someone I wouldn't vote for. If I wouldn't vote for Barr why would I support him?
"If he was guilty of not
"If he was guilty of not reading it, he is lacking in his constitutional duties to the citizens of this country. If he read it and voted for it, well he's a traitor to this country and it's people."
Allow me to interject: Bob Barr is a very well-read, intelligent man. There is no way in the world he voted for the Patriot Act without reading it and without knowing exactly what it stood for.
For that matter, all he had to do was listen to Dr. Paul. Dr. Paul was sounding off on the Patriot Act back in Fall 2001, like Paul Revere.
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I agree with you free! well
I agree with you free! well said!
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If he's running against my
If he's running against my candidate, am I supposed to support him?
I do appreciate your polite tone--compared to other Barr posters who have called Baldwin supporters snake handlers and "Jesus Juice drinkers"--but you still often make no sense.
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I liked Chuck Baldwin until I read that he supports cutting off all trade to China. That would destroy our economy and China's economy considering 70% of everything we own is "made in China." But I could deal with that. Then I read an article he wrote that was totally homophobic which is a deal breaker for me. So I had to choose between a homophobe or an ex-neo con and I've chosen the ex-neo con.
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I would take the homophobe!
I would take the homophobe! homosexuality is perversion .I don't like perverts! but then again its your life if you want to take part in that then its your business not mine.. just don't push it on me.. do what you do in your own bedroom and don't make me accept what you do and accept it as normal.. BECAUSE IT IS NOT!
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
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The Homophobes vs. The
The Homophobes vs. The Christophobes.
That's what this is all boiling down to, unfortunately.
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Yep
seems that some in the Freedom Movement would rather
Major on the Minors - when it comes to the Issues.
Rather than notice that no other candidate stands with Ron Paul on
the major issues - because CB is a Christian Pastor - the minor
family issues get brought up - But, this is only because CB identifies
himself with Jesus Christ - and those specific people don't like that.
So be it - Chuck Baldwin 2008
But let's all be sure to come together in September on the 1st and 2nd.
We have to take over Minneapolis in a big, big way!
Uuhh
I'm not a homosexual. But I have a family member who is and friends who are.
I don't understand the argument when people say "do whatever you want in your own bedroom but don't push it on me!" Do a lot of homosexuals try to get heterosexuals to have same sex relationships? I've certainly never heard a single case.
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Maybe we should ask Larry
Maybe we should ask Larry Craig!
I will give you a couple of cases
First off, I have friends who are too, and relatives who are homosexual too. I am a Christian and believe it is a sin, but I also believe that Christians are NOT to judge unbelievers. What they want to do among themselves is fine with me, but when they push themselves and their lifestyle on me, or mine, I do get a bit upset. A man who was my son's boss where he worked tried to push himself on my son. A female relative tried pushing herself on another of my relatives. And while my 7 year old was having xrays by a homosexual, he tried to get my son alone in the darkroom with him. There, now you have it, 3 cases. And we basically live a sheltered life, homeschooled, etc. I don't speak out about homosexuals in the schools, mostly because it is public school, and it doesn't concern me as I homeschool.
Homosexuals flaunt their
Homosexuals flaunt their sexuality (at least in my neck of the woods). I don't like to see hetrosexuals lip-locked either. There are some things that should be kept private.
I dont want to watch you pee, either.
But they are putting so much homosexual relationship crap on tv, i have to turn the thing off!
They are pushing the agenda on tv. I personally dont care what they do, but I dont want to watch, anymore than I want to watch you pee.
'Gay' plans to target 2-year-olds
I do not hate gay people, nor am I AFRAID of them (homophobic)... lol, that is rediculous, but here is an interesting article:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59259
Simple question: Why target 2 year olds? I don't get targeting and indoctrinating a child who's mind is only beginning to develop. I just don't get it.
The Gay Plan
The gay plan is to break down the family and get people to feel the narcotic of determining right and wrong for themselves (Gen.3:5). The sad fact is the homo's are being played the same way NWO Rockefellar funded the womens movement.
Culture is Religion externalized.
The Gay Plan? ROFLMAO!
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Gays and inter-racial marriages? Yeah, watch out media we are on to your gay publicity agendas.
Right on.
Right on.
Do you remember where...
Do you remember where you read that? I hope that's not true, but I don't want to respond until I see it in writing. Thanks!
Here is the article
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