did i just get censored on the daily paul!!!!!!!!
i had a thread called GOD vs Satan who would win. and now its deleted or something.......
where are my rights????????????
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Response by Michael Nystrom
Site Owner, Daily Paul.com
"Where are my rights?????????"
That is a good question. Let's go about answering it. I assume, as most people do when they make such a claim that they have a "right" to post whatever they want on my website, the Daily Paul, that you are referring to their First Amendment right. Let's examine this. The First Amendment states:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
You should note immediately that the First Amendment applies to Congress. As for me, I'm just some dude with a blog. So yes, I deleted your thread, because I judged it to be irrelevant to the tone and mission of my website. Not only was it irrelevant, there were a bunch of strange characters in your title which defaced the design of my site, and was just plain ugly. It was distracting. As a result, I exercised my right, as a private citizen and owner of private property, to delete your thread.
To your question: Where are your rights? Your natural rights come from God. The Constitution is a document that enumerates certain rights, and aims to protect these rights by limiting the power of government.
You have the right to ask the question, "GOD vs Satan who would win?" if you so desire. You just don't have the right to do it here. Posting here is a privilege, not a right. However, there are plenty of other places online and off where you can ask this question, and engage in this discussion. You might begin on a local street corner. You could make sandwich boards, walk around with a megaphone and pass out literature, as many people do. The government will not bother you.
Otherwise you could go to the many free and (relatively) uncensored sites, like Yahoo, or Craigslist. The internet is a big place my friend, and there is room for you somewhere. In fact, you could even start your own blog for free. Try blogger.com. You can have a blog up in minutes.
Once you have your own blog, I think you'll understand a little better how annoying it is when people come by to muckrack and distract from the mission that you're trying so hard to achieve.
Thank you for your understanding. I hope this answers your questions about where your rights are.
Michael Nystrom
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Thank you Michael
Very eloquently stated.
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keep starting it? you are
keep starting it?
you are the one who bumped it.
this thread was created to have a healthy debate on if religion may cause more harm then it stops,
you have your views and some have other views and thats great!
so stop acting like a little kid who is afraid to find out the truth of santa claus.
and once again i know this is a privately owned site.
and i am very happy that the owner of it lets me have a debate with all who wants to debate.
debating is a healthy thing for humans, as long as you keep it non physical.
this thread is no different than any other thread here so please don't be offended.
debates like this is what draws people to daily paul and it shows outsiders that ron paul has a very large diverse group of fans
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"Where are my rights???"
Hahahahah!@!!!!
This is private property.... thus you have NONE.
Go make your own website if you don't like it ;)
InfoSpill, I thought you
InfoSpill,
I thought you might enjoy reading this...
Public Law 97-280
97th Congress
CONGRESS DECLARES THE BIBLE
“THE WORD OF GOD”
[S.J.Res. 165] 96 Stat. 1211
October 4, 1982
Joint Resolution authorizing and requesting the President to proclaim 1983 as the “Year of the Bible.”
Whereas the Bible, the Word of God, has made a unique contribution in shaping the United States as a distinctive and blessed nation and people;
Whereas deeply held religious convictions springing from the Holy Scriptures led to the early settlement of our Nation;
Whereas Biblical teachings inspired concepts of civil government that are contained in our Declaration of Independence and the constitution of the United States;
Whereas many of our great national leaders—among them Presidents Washington, Jackson, Lincoln, and Wilson—paid tribute to the surpassing influence of the Bible in our country's development, as the words of President Jackson that the Bible is “the rock on which our Republic rests”;
Whereas the history of our Nation clearly illustrates the value of voluntarily applying the teachings of the Scriptures in the lives of individuals, families, and societies;
Whereas this Nation now faces great challenges that will test this Nation as it has never been tested before; and
Whereas that renewing our knowledge of and faith in God through Holy Scripture can strengthen us as a nation and a people: Now, therefore, be it
Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled , That the President is authorized and requested to designate 1983 as a national “Year of the Bible” in recognition of both the formative influence the Bible has been for our Nation, and our national need to study and apply the teachings of the Holy Scriptures.
Approved October 4, 1982. Passed by the President
1 U.S. Cong. & Adm. News '82-29 96 Stat. 1211
and your point? are you
and your point?
are you telling me that for a human to be a good human you have to follow the bible?
if no. i rest my case
is yes. i rest my case
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Satan Here..
I guess I needed to make an appearence on this thread. Sorry for being fashionably late, but I do have quite the Martini hangover.
Now I don't know who is right or wrong, but I do know that I did beat God in a good game of golf this morning. (sigh) He was so over-par.
Now I'm just going to slip on my Pierre Cardin pajamas and watch the show if you don't mind. My cable is currently out (pouting) and I'm feeling a little prickish.
Oops, nevermind..I just sat on my flaggelation device.
Silly me.
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Get in line. No pushing, no shoving. All souls are taken one at a time, in the order in which they are recieved.
Thank you.
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Get in line. No pushing, no shoving. All souls are taken one at a time, in the order in which they are recieved.
Thank you.
angel here
and not the fallen kind.
Thank you Satan for making sure that my married friend still has a job in the Martini factory.God bless you.
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BTW, it's HELLA expensive to be on the internet at the hotel so don't even think I'm going to stick around for your sarcastic answer.
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Lisa,
It's pronounced Hellua'xpensive.
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"the only thing that keeps the banking system from failing is general ignorance about how the banking system works."
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Dear Satan,
Why aren't you hanging out at meerkat manor?
with all the rest of the bob barr voters.
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"the only thing that keeps the banking system from failing is general ignorance about how the banking system works."
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My dearest E...No sweetheart...
I'm drinking tequila with you and playing Warren Zevon music.
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Get in line. No pushing, no shoving. All souls are taken one at a time, in the order in which they are recieved.
Thank you.
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Get in line. No pushing, no shoving. All souls are taken one at a time, in the order in which they are recieved.
Thank you.
okay, i have to say this just once
bah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
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"the only thing that keeps the banking system from failing is general ignorance about how the banking system works."
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gah i was afraid of this
we pushed infospill over the edge and now he's reinvented himself ala South Park's Butter's alter ego "Professor Chaos" as the devourerofsouls. I hope youre all proud of yourselves : )
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lame.
lame.
Im bringing
my metal detector over, hope you don't mind...
I love free speech
I also enjoy having friends over to my house. If someone were to begin saying things that offended other guests however, I would be a poor hostess to not ask him/her to cease the behaviour. Infospill is one of us and started a thread that was noticed. He's still one of us. I am every bit as guilty as he is for posting divisive/off topic comments over the duration Ive been at DP. It could have easily been one of MY comments that was adressed by Micheal. Id like to think that Infospill has a better understanding of freedom of speech after all of this and we can let the thread die. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander and i think many of us can own some of the rebuke. I give him credit for not rejoining under a different name and acting up.
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We're all guilty of "being
We're all guilty of "being divisive" with somebody. The point is that if Michael blows his coach whistle and "Alright--outta the pool!" we button our lips and move on. We don't sit around loudly whining and calling him a 'censor'.
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Kevin....
you have a TUMA.......GET TO DA CHAAAPA!!!!!!!
Sorry,I've been wanting to say that silly little thing for a long time.
Seems some people here are more interested in a sensational title,rather than the substance of the message.
"God vs Satan" ,was knowingly a sensational title,and a powderkeg waiting to go off.
The author knew this. Now he is trying to make Michael look like the "bad guy" by sniveling about this further.
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ROFL its not a tuma : )
I totally agree. Everyday a new generation is born that loves freedom but needs to learn the whole "ya dont have the freedom of speech to shout fire in a crowded theatre blah blah blah " thing. and youre right- the issue at this point isnt about the original post- its merely about understanding the definition and accepted behavoral norms of a free society.
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Your norms, not mine
Your norms, not mine
This is a constitutional republic not a democratic, majority does not win.
Yelling fire in a crowd can cause physical harm by a big rush for a exit door thats why you cant say it at this point in society.
if yelling fire was a normal thing in a movie theater then people would not run but would just take into consideration of who is yelling fire and deciding to believe them or not. like the little boy who cried wolf
Yelling fire is a restricted word and for that reason can cause harm if miss used
if it was a un restricted word then the only harm it may do is people being burned by the the fire if it was for real, and a rush for a door at the last moment.
Yelling God Vs Satan and discussing it in a crowd will not do anything but get people talking about beliefs.
But saying God Vs Satan in a church will get you thrown out or out casted
and aperently talking about GOD vs SATAN or a forum dedicated to restoring freedom will get you censored.
You pick and choose all you want about how you feel about my way with words and that is your own fault not mine for you being offended...
people hate gays but thats there own fault people hate bad words and once again thats their own fault people hate prostitutes and once again thats there own fault ON AND ON AND ON!!!!!!
care about your self and not about how others feel......
take control of your feelings and anger and passions and confront all who question your life with words.
JUST DONT CENSOR
confront answer take part or just ignore
DONT CENSOR
The reason why we do have a SO CALLED norm of what you can say is because people don't want to be like the little boy who cried wolf so they refrain ON THERE OWN to not lie.. and just yell FIREEEEEE....
Now the GOV stepped in and made some kind of law out of it....
The heck with being the NORM by gov standards,,,, let people take care of there own lifes for once
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there, there
"Their" is the word you should use when you want to talk about something that belongs to others. "There" is a word used to talk about a specific place.
Just sayin...
thanks
thanks
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let people take care of their own lives for once...
exactly : ) that is exactly what nystrom did in policing his own site- otherwise itd be a constant free for all. also notice that you are STILL permitted to argue your point- not because nystrom HAS to let you- but because he is reasonable - thats all he asks of you in return. I suppose tho if he sees too much "stop censoring me bro" stuff he may get weary and delete stuff- to prevent the site from turning into a graffitti board. thats all. Personally I think you were singled out a bit unfairly - maybe it was your timing (after tons of flagging issues) as your post wasnt any more devisive as many others- but come on now- there is a limit before the integrity of a free-speech website turns to crap for the sake of nothing other than saying things simply because you CAN. Dont confuse free speech with anarchy. rules arent bad my friend : )
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a free for all would be
a free for all would be great and draw crowds for miles.
just like ron pauls legalize pot legalize prostitution legalize freedom has drawn us all from around the world
imagine a society where we could hold debates about anything without being cut off and everyone saying there opinion!
it would be awsome
Don't compare free speech with anarchy, my friend : )
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