Ron Paul "alleges" the Gulf of Tonkin attack was a False Flag incident

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One "conspiracy theorist" named Ron Paul in the Fox debates mentioned the gulf of Tonkins incident and how it lead to a war built on lies as in Vietnam.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS7Idj9uaOY

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_Incident

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I've been asked in another post to reply here.

Why my opinion is important I don't know, but I just did a search and here is Dr. Paul explaining this:

Banderas: "Ok, but you did say on Alex Jones' radio that you believed that U.S. was in great danger of a staged terror attack or a Gulf of Tonkin-style provocation. So, do you think the Bush administration would do something like this to get us into a war, say, with Iran?"

Paul: "No, I don't. But, I talk about that because, you know, the Gulf of Tonkin was an episode that was used to get us into war. If an accident happens over there, and it's blamed - let's say Osama Bin Laden stages something and he blames it on Iran. This will be an excuse to for us to expand the war in Iran. So, I think this is very very dangerous because a lot of people, even, you know, in the Republican Party are quite willing to use a nuclear first strike on Iran. So, I think this is a very very dangerous situation that we're in. So, no I don't think President Bush is planning this. But, I think 9/11 was certainly used as a reason to go into Iraq. And, Iraq did not have weapons. They had nothing to do with 9/11. So they use events. They don't stage events, but they use it to do the things they had already planned. And, the Iraqi war has been planned for a long time."

http://youtube.com/watch?v=AbXQ_PnUbq8

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Yes, but he's said elsewhere

Yes, but he's said elsewhere that he "fears a contrived Gulf-of-Tonkin incident" as a "pretext" for war against Iran. Isn't he just being a conspiracy theorist?

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Contrived by whom?

The government or someone else? Of course people can contrive things. And the more elaborate, the more unlikely, such as 9/11.

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You're hurting RP by being so dense..

You don't want to hurt Dr. Paul do you?

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he is a troll he dosent care

remember Billy Dee, JustCantgetitup and many other names he had
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I was usung some BillyDee jedi mind control,against him :)

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He doesn't say, and isn't

He doesn't say, and isn't that typical of "conspiracy" theorists? Shouldn't we be writing Dr. Paul to correct him on this nonsense? Why on earth would he think it was contrived as a pretext?
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yes but Doesnt the Gulf of Tonkin being an inside job make you

yes but Doesnt the Gulf of Tonkin being an inside job make you a little bit suspicious?
If I gave you a documentary will you watch it? or say an 8 minute video? Can you promise to watch?
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That's not what he said.

He said "They don't stage events, but they use it to do the things they had already planned. " That's him saying it was not an inside job, but something that they took advantage of.

I don't have any personal opinion on Gulf of Tonkin and I don't care.

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damnit dude did nyou even watch his video on FOX?

He says it was a lie? A staged event? To go into vietnam? Are you stupid? Or am I stupid?
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Again..

I have no interest in the subject, so there's no point in talking to me about this.

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Quick, Someone Tell Billy To Post Here

Doesn't he need to attack Ron Paul's "conspiracy theory?"

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