CAN YOU EVEN HANDLE THE TRUTH?? Update!!
Submitted by takeaction on Sat, 11/03/2007 - 22:17Update: I put this thread up 37 weeks ago, and just reviewed some of the posts now. I am appalled at the first few comments. We are here on the Ron Paul forum, and people can't face the facts? Why would somebody ask to have this link deleted?? This is real war. This is what our troops are dealing with every day. This is what you are not allowed to see in the United States of America (CENSORED).
I can not believe the first few posts to this........This is WAR. This is the WAR that "YOU" are paying for with your federal income tax.
Do you think this video is fake?
These are "Real" Americans getting killed.
I have to prepare you before I show you...so read.....
This is what I typed 37 weeks ago......before RP suspended his campaign.
Ron Paul is our only hope.
Before you witness what I am about to show you, please understand that you need to post a comment, so that this stays on the front of the page so people coming here can see the truth.
WARNING....ADULT ONLY....GRAPHIC REALITY.......
THE NEWS YOU WILL NEVER SEE!!!
I have to really warn you, that I am about to show you the truth of what is really going on in Iraq. No matter what our BS politicians are describing...this is THE TRUTH. Why would we ever be in a place like this.
A surge will never stop this...nothing can stop this...we need to get the hell out. These people hate us. This is not a War. These people feel that we are in there country unjustified. So they take up arms, and from over 1/2 mile away they pick our soldiers off.
You can't ever win against this??? NEVER...
So..if you have read this far, take a look at the truth. And by the way. The site that this is located on is the truth. Mark the site and read all of the current REAL NEWS everyday.
Okay.... I warned you about the truth....is this your friend, son, or daughter trying to follow thier orders??
If you are going to watch this....I want you to watch it to the END!!!!
What you are about to see is the truth on how the Iraq War is going...
I warned you...
Iraqi Snipers killing our sons and daugters from over 1/2 a mile away. We don't have a chance in hell to win!

















could somebody please
email Mike N. if this thread persists. people are complaining now, and Sunday is no day to be grumpy.
Canada Loves Ron Paul
Canada Loves Ron Paul
shhh... again with the bumping...
shhhh... just go find a few of your favorite positive threads and bump them, along with the currently good threads on the main page...
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This video is OLD news
It was actually shown on network TV more than a year ago.
It is absolutely Al Queda propaganda and has no place on this board.
What truth is this? That war is hell?
Great scoop there TakeAction . . .
Ron Paul supporters do not want to withdraw from Iraq because we can't win, we want to withdraw from there because it is an illegal intervention of a nation that was no threat to our national security.
That arrogant foreign policy of manipulating in the affairs of sovereign nations with force creates resentment and ultimately blowback.
Thinking that America needs to manipulate the affairs of nations around the world ignores the fact that we have won the cold war and that capitalist democratic ideas are winning all over the globe as nations seek
to join the global economy and reap the financial benefits of having less bureaucracy and being more friendly to business and development than America.
At the same time that emerging markets take our manufacturing capabilities, we continue to ignore the fact that we can't afford to police the world and waste hundreds of billions of dollars overseas while continuing to expand the bloated intrusiveness of government at home.
Every real Ron Paul supporter I have ever met understands this and would not be posting crap like this on the board.
Alan in NC
Alan in NC
We just got it buried when you brought it back... :)
shhhh... We have all agreed that it should go away... :) No more bumping... Now we have to go through and rebump good threads again...
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Beware of Psychological Warfare
When you see a posting with BIG URGENT letters, should you be cautious of psychological warfare?
SHOULD YOU????!!!!!!!
To begin with, I suspect 95% of Ron Paul supporters are already disillusioned with the occupation of Iraq. Not really an issue here on dailypaul.
Next, comments like, "We don't have a chance in hell to win!" stink of the tactics commonly used in psychological warfare.
Finally, it's a shame people can attract our attention on dailypaul with sensationalist propaganda like this. Call them out, and move on.
Just come home
Who is profiting from this war? What are these deaths protecting? Are these deaths necessary?
A foreign policy of freedom, by Ron Paul
Not Appropriate
We know our soldiers are being killed. Including my nephews friend. We already want to end it. I personally don't want to watch it. That post is not related to the paul campaign.
he said shooting, not killing
nice warning
I need to read more carefully, but hey
oh well what the guy below me said
What a completely ridiculous
What a completely ridiculous post in a completely unnecessary setting for it. I question your motives. Do you think we would be using this website if we didn't already agree on the Iraq issue? I propose this thread to be deleted, more harm than good.
Seconded!
Directed @ takeaction.
"CAN YOU EVEN HANDLE THE TRUTH?"
Are you ------ kidding me?
The TRUTH? - What you displayed, was a PROPAGANDA VIDEO. It SAYS IT IN THE TITLE.
- PROPAGANDA IS TRUTH?
- Yea like WAR IS PEACE...
What michelmalkin says is spot on. I not only propose this thread deleted, and proposed takeaction to be suspended. You pretty much layed waste to the FUD rules.. and this is so the wrong place for this, its atrocious.
What you'll see...Question the motives
To take the suspense away, this video will show you the co-ordinated efforts of a sniper and a videographer.
It's a recruiting message for the Iraqi resistance, complete with a droning arabic song.
If you want to watch video of soldiers being shot, this is it. On the other hand, you might beware of this post being on dailypaul.
Information does harm?
He didn't trick anyone into watching. Made it very clear what it was. Etc etc...
How does this do harm? It gives us perspective into what our soldiers are facing daily. It shows us what the casualty statistics REALLY mean.
As the former marine mentioned below, hiding the sacrifice is what is disgraceful.
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he said shooting, not killing
:(
Ever hear of Tokyo Rose?
"We don't have a chance in hell to win!"
This is the inflammatory language of the poster of this message. I can't possibly know this poster's motives; heck, I agree whole-heartedly with the intention of getting our troops out of Iraq.
But I also recognize the pattern. In psychological operations, the basic strategy is to wear down the morale of your opponent with messages such as, "You don't have a chance in hell to win. You might as well surrender. The surest way to peace, afterall, is surrender."
That is a good point...
I do dislike that statement at the end of the post... It's not about getting out with a loss... It's about recognizing that we achieved our objectives years ago, and it's time to come home...
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I don't know what to say...
Except maybe, support our troops, bring 'em home.
I have used an argument to turn pro-war people against the war successfully. It can only be used if you can deliver it very matter of factly. It essentially "out-wars" them to the point that they are shamed.
I simply say, "Look, I am as pro war as the next guy. It helps to reduce the young male population here at home and gives me better odds with younger women. It insures a shortage of workers here at home. As long as they are over their dying, I don't have to worry about being killed here.. etc etc" And I argue for war from this very selfish perspective and it usually doesn't take more than a minute or so before the person realizes how selfish their own position for being pro-war is.
After having seen this video, I can't even pretend to deliver that devil's advocate style argument anymore...
Somehow we all get this picture of noble fighting... Which gives us some amount of comfort. This absolute cowardly killing of our troops is... well... it was a very emotional thing to watch...
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What you'll see
To take the suspense away, this video will show you the co-ordinated efforts of a sniper and a videographer.
It's a recruiting message for the Iraqi resistance, complete with a droning arabic song.
If you want to watch video of soldiers being shot, this is it. On the other hand, you might beware of this post being on dailypaul.
Import Our Troops
Just come home. We just marched in, and we can just come home.
We call it a rose garden.
Marines understand what that means. What hurts me the most as a former Marine is that we do not respect our soldiers when they come home, they are wheeled into an airfield in a flag draped coffin and they are hidden from public view like some empty box instead of the honor they deserve by viewing there sacrifice. You have no idea how i hate this draft dodger we have in office. I do not have anything against anyone who does not show up to fight a bad war but to those who hide in a uniform for daddy and then send boys to there death with a lie.......God! i can not explain what i feel to you.
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote."
Thankyou Troops
I hate watching stuff like that; however, i guess it shows the true nature of this being an urban comabt mission, and trying to be police. We need to get these men and women home!
You are correct..
I hate to face the truth myself.....but to me, this is proof, that the leadership we are currently experiencing, is HIDING THE TRUTH! This will never be exposed on the main stream media!
We are doing the same to Iraq
that I saw us doing first hand to Viet-Nam which is the rape of their country. Those in power could care less about the men they sacrifice in the name of their globalist agenda and we have a long hard struggle ahead of us to cleanse our nation of these people, but it must be done. I thank God that citizens are finally waking up to the bill of goods they have been fed.
Sad but
oh so true, my fiancee son-in-law is over there and he is stating how our troops have there hands tied by our government officials.
This is not a war it is a police action and as Ron Paul said our troops
our not trained for these kind of missions.
GOD be with all OUR TROOPS and there FAMILIES !!!!!
"Freedom is a right that can never be won in war,only by each individual "
The troops want RP!!
Donations from our own troops tell us the truth!!
http://www.warcomeshome.org/content/troops-support-ron-paul,...
im probably on the
im probably on the government watch list for looking at this video
Yep
With the way this administration is right now...I think all RP supporters are on a watch list!
This is exactly why we need to leave
What is so important that our guys need to be subject to this. They might as well walk them into a slaughter house.
God this pisses me off!!!
Mike
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Mike
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I agree
I agree with you....this Pisses me off. This is the truth that nobody sees!