Who's Greatest Founding Father: Adams, Jefferson, Paine, or Washington
Submitted by OctoBox on Wed, 07/23/2008 - 19:08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny2at8R37ic
Listen to Ron Paul above tell you who his favorite President was.
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Ben Franklin
I just love these quotes.
http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Benjamin_Franklin/
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I agree with Franklin
He was so major in everything political or not. I think he is the one figure that if you take him out of the equation, America does not happen the way it did.
John
For my money, it's Ben Franklin.
TJ was a highly accomplished political theorist, but Ben Franklin makes every one of his contemporaries look like also-rans. His achievements went far beyond politics.
-jcr
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Ummm, Franklin was a media mogel
No one could gain power without his say so.
He lied his competition out of business.
He stole lots of ideas and technology from other countries.
He promoted himself falsely more than Don King.
Because of his ambition, he helped the founding fathers scrap off the oppressive British and international banking cartel rule...primarily I give him credit for the Colonial script. He and the other founding fathers really had a good bead on the international banking cartel.
But generally, I question his intentions. They all had ambitions and uterior motives.
Washington and Paine are my favorites. However, for inspiration, I rely on the Founding principles...not the Founding Fathers.
John Adams
While "1776" is an entertaining musical comedy, it's also historically accurate. Without Adams as the driving force, the Continental Congress would never have supported the war effort, and Washington's army would have been left to "twist slowly in the wind".
Too bad, Adams tarnished his presidency with the Alien and Sedition Acts. Less than a decade since the ratification of the Constitution and government was already trampling on it.
It's a tie
It's a tie. There would have been no Revolution were it not for Washington, the soldier. Thos. Jefferson was the brains behind the operation.
'I'm going with George
'I'm going with George Washington"
"Observe the masses,and do the opposite."
"Observe the masses,and do the opposite."
Oh snap...that's a great quote
It reminds me of Dave Ramsey's quote "Live like no one else...so later you can live like no one else."
Jefferson
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"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote..." ~ Ben Franklin
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"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote..." ~ Ben Franklin
"The 'cost of freedom' is risk and responsibility..." ~ Me
Thomas Paine
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John Adams, hands down
I am not surprised at all that he chooses John Adams as the greatest. I read John Adams and I saw the movie. If you have not read it, you absolutely must. He was the real deal. The others added a lot, of course, and had their special gifts but he was true and always did the right thing, not necessarily the convenient thing. He never put others down while they were putting him down. Jefferson was not principled like Adams and Hamilton was not a nice person.
Everyone should listen the ending of the last episode of the John Adams series. It will make you cry.
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If Ron endorses John Adams
I will vote for him...
#1 Washington
#2 Madison
#3 Jefferson
#4 Adams
#5 Franklin
Liberty = Responsibility
Liberty = Responsibility
flipper
Madison was a flip-flopper. :-)
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Got to go with Jefferson only because I was named after him and so was my grandfather
Wake the Hell Up
could have been the subtitle of Thomas Paine's 'Common Sense,' I have a soft spot for him. Also the sheer width of Franklin's talents was amazing. But without GW there's no USA as we know it.
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The same can be said of
The same can be said of Adams, Jefferson, Franklin, Paine, etc, etc... Each one brought a very important part to the fight. There truly is no "one" that shines brighter than another when it comes down to it.
Gotta be
Washington...
Patrick Henry is one of my favorites.
There is a large variety of great men of that era to choose from, so it's hard to pick just one.
He's one of mine too! In
He's one of mine too!
In my public speaking class, we had to "introduce" someone to the class (like s/he was going to be the keynote speaker or something). I spoke about some of his accomplishments, including the speech "Give me Liberty or Give me Death" and left his name until the end. No one, NO ONE, knew who I was speaking of until I said his name. The sad, sad state of our public education system.
While not a founding father, Lincoln is my least favorite. Say something positive about him and a verbal argument is sure to insue.
In a game of b-ball I'll have to go with Lincoln "Mr. Sky-Hook"
He would have dunked on all the other founding father's in a game of one-on-one b-ball (basketball) -- referring to Lincoln
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Greatest
That would be hard pressed to pick the greatest...I think they were the sum of their parts but I like James Madison and Benjamin Franklin. I'm really fond of one of Ben's quotes about Democracy ......"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner, Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote".
According to most research,
According to most research, he never said that. Sorry.
General Washington
The leader of the original American Revolution.
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The only president
The only president not a member of a political party, although his ideology most aligned with the Federalist Party. He warned of the corruptive nature of political parties. Exhibit A: fraudulent left-right paradigm of the War Party.
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Favorite president...
Andrew Jackson... Hands down. He fought tooth and nail and set the banking cartel back a hundred years. He fought the beast and won!
More importantly, he made the people understand. They actually KNEW what was going on!
Great Photo depicting the epic battle with the banks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:AJ~bank.JPG
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Jackson is definitely up
Jackson is definitely up there.
Irony is Andrew Jackson on a central bank note.
Yep...
A sad twist that on my more suspicious days makes me wonder if it was a deliberate choice to place him on the paper we call money as a final "ha, we won in the end."...
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