Bob Barr to be on Countdown w/ Keith Olberman tonight!
Submitted by tajitj on Fri, 07/25/2008 - 08:59
Friday July 25th 8:00 PM ET.
Listen to what Barr is saying nowdays. We need to use him to futher our message. I bet they talk about Dr. Paul tonight!
Also there is a AOL poll that includes Barr.
No Baldwin or write-in Paul, go over there and let them know who you will vote for.
http://news.aol.com/elections/article/could-third-party-hope...
Check out his new video "A Time for Liberty"
http://youtube.com/user/BobBarr2008
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gggrrrrrrrr
Barr should make statements like this "If the Republican Party had any sense they would reconsider and nominate Ron Paul". How come he hasn't said this?
Because Dr. Paul
dropped out of the race. He publicly announced this. Paul also said he hopes Barr gets a lot of votes.
Barr did try to draft Dr. Paul to run Libertarian, before he himself choosing to run.
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Don't blame me that there's no voice for liberty in opposition to McCain and Obama in the televised Presidential debates. I donated to Bob Barr.
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Don't blame me if there's no voice for liberty opposing McCain and Obama in the Presidential debates. I donated to Ron Paul Libertarian, Bob Barr's campaign.
Let's go with your argument
Isn't Barr attempting to pull voters away from McCain? If he really was he'd be using the Ron Paul support to his advantage. It's as if he's not even trying to up end McCain's fence sitters. He should be instigating discord in the Republican party. Using Ron Paul's name constantly,I mean constantly, would do this.
There's something not right about what's going on here. I'm not the brightest bulb on the tree, but I'm also not the dimmest.
Bet we dont hear from "preferred" after the convention
He'll change his name again before he DARE says "ok NOW are you ready to support Barr??". He'll pretend like he's brand spankin new- just you watch.
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Support all voices of liberty
I would just like to say that I seriously disliked Bob Barr about four/five years ago. He was a staunch supporter for the war on drugs. The war on drugs pushed me towards the libertarians; hence, that was my "schtick."
It makes no sense to me that we would just discredit someone for their past indiscretions. Aren't we all trying to convince people who believe in big government that there is a better way? And, if so, why then if someone begins to change their tune that we insist on castrating them for their past? Shouldn't we embrace Barr now that he speaks our language? What message are we sending to potential liberty loving individuals?
Not that I am a general that can dictate who people should support, but we should be supporting Ron Paul first. Then, after our convention and the RNC, we should mobilize to support the next liberty loving individual. Whether, its Baldwin, Barr or whomever else the point is people need to hear this message otherwise the revolution does not exist. Our division will rip us apart.
To emphasize this point, my yard will have two sides, tyrrants and patriots. Currently I am collecting political yard signs from all candidates and placing them in their respective category. Baldwin, Barr, and our hero Ron Paul will be delegated on the patriot side; meanwhile, McBama, and Hitlery get the tyrrant side.
Bottom line promote liberty!
You should take a picture
of your yard when you're done. That would be funny to see.
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Don't blame me that there's no voice for liberty in opposition to McCain and Obama in the televised Presidential debates. I donated to Bob Barr.
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Don't blame me if there's no voice for liberty opposing McCain and Obama in the Presidential debates. I donated to Ron Paul Libertarian, Bob Barr's campaign.
I agree
"Bottom line promote liberty!"
I agree. That's why I'll be voting for the best man for the job, Ron Paul. As much as I'd like to support Chuck Baldwin, Ron Paul is the most in line with my beliefs and values.
So I support the Ron Paul Campaign for Liberty.
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"We really do have...a once in a lifetime opportunity to take the Republican Party back to where it was." -Kent Snyder, 1959-2008
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"...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy
So why not
donate to Barr and Baldwin, but write-in "vote" for Paul? If you truly want to promote liberty you should be trying to get someone into the debates that is promoting it.
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Don't blame me that there's no voice for liberty in opposition to McCain and Obama in the televised Presidential debates. I donated to Bob Barr.
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Don't blame me if there's no voice for liberty opposing McCain and Obama in the Presidential debates. I donated to Ron Paul Libertarian, Bob Barr's campaign.
AND????????????
who gives a flying rat's ass?
Ron Paul
You have to think they will talk about Dr. Paul. That is why flying rats asses should care.
"also there is an AOL poll.."
"....that includes Barr.
No Baldwin or write-in Paul, go over there and let them know who you will vote for." I noticed that too. The MSM knows that there is a bigger movement to write -in Dr Paul regardless of how effective or ineffective anyone thinks that is- but conveniently leaves the choice as a generic "other". Id much rather have Barr in the mix than not- just to simply have another point of view to ponder than just McCain or Obama- but the lesserer of 3 evils is still evil. At this point im a fervent "other".
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Need to focus on RP and the Rally
Until the Rally is over and we see where things go from there I could care less about other candidates. We need to focus our energy on the message!
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Yes we do, but...
if there is 80% chance of rain and you had your car windows down, would you wait for it to rain and then make a decision or should you plan ahead to safeguard yourself against being unprepared to fully combat the problem if it so arises?
voting Baldwin or Barr hardly requires a deep psychoanalytical
probe. There will be PLENTY of time after the convention to go in that direction. (feel free to devote pro-"other" time as we feel necessary at pro "other" sites) Until then we need to NOT leave our delegates alone on the battlefeild. They have all worked so hard to get this far and there is time on the clock. They need our support- we cant just walk out of the arena to go cheer another team - especially if there is a decided effort for a last big play. Until (and not one second before) John McCain gets the official nomination and ceases to be "presumptive" we should support Ron Paul and his delegates and their projects- as doomed as we think they may be. ESPECIALLY at the Daily Paul. It aint over til its over.
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How is it cheering another team?
Barr already has the nomination. He's not in competition with Paul.
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Don't blame me if there's no voice for liberty opposing McCain and Obama in the Presidential debates. I donated to Ron Paul Libertarian, Bob Barr's campaign.
All im saying is that if you want to vote Barr- cool
Just wait till AFTER the convention to try to get anyone at DP to offer support. This site has worked tirelessly to encourage its members to be involved in the delegate process for the convention and we should support them to the bitter end. There is little you can accomplish for Barr prior to the convention that cant be gained by waiting until after the convention. Wait until after the convention and youll have a captive audience- jumping the gun and asking for support from people who are still fighting for a miracle may alienate them. Let us see a clear win or loss at the convention and we can take a look at our options with undivided attention. I have a hard time seeing why Barr supporters are so militantly insistant in feeling like they need to win us over. If it were me looking for recruits- Id hang out at Huckabee's forum or Kucinich's or someone who's supporters have lost ALL hope and then after the convention swing by when we're receptive. Thats all im saying.
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Well,
it's probably a time issue. After McCains nomination, there's not time left. Barr supporters aren't trying to get you to VOTE for Barr. They're trying to get you to donate money, answer polls, etc, so that they can get him in the debates. He needs those things NOW, in order to get the popularity necessary to get in the debates. That's what's at stake here. I have my tickets for the Paul convention but I've also donated money to Barr. This is not inconsistent.
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Don't blame me if there's no voice for liberty opposing McCain and Obama in the Presidential debates. I donated to Ron Paul Libertarian, Bob Barr's campaign.
ok fair enough- I think you mean well and I appreciate that
but what makes you think Barr offering a watered down soundbyte here and there about "the message" will do anymore than Ron Pauls full strength version did at the repub debates? I keep hearing "we dont think Barr has a chance- we just want the message to be told" like its just a big 'ol ad campaign for the revolution- a little prime air time. That sounds like a spoiler to me- a way to get young people to vote Barr instead of Obama- and who benefits? McCain.
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He's not in competition with Paul
I'm voting for Ron Paul. He's a better man for the job than Bob Barr.
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"We really do have...a once in a lifetime opportunity to take the Republican Party back to where it was." -Kent Snyder, 1959-2008
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"...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy
No you're not voting for Ron Paul.
Try it and see.
You may be able to write his name on a ballot, but it won't be counted or registered. So it won't be a vote.
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Don't blame me if there's no voice for liberty opposing McCain and Obama in the Presidential debates. I donated to Ron Paul Libertarian, Bob Barr's campaign.
no, you're not voting for a ballot-qualified candidate
Try it and see.
You may be able to cast your "ballot" electronically, but there is no way of knowing whether it will be counted or registered.
Black-box voting has corrupted the integrity of the vote. Electronic balloting and vote-counting systems running proprietary software that cannot be publicly audited amount to a secret "count" of the vote.
So it won't be a vote.
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"We really do have...a once in a lifetime opportunity to take the Republican Party back to where it was." -Kent Snyder, 1959-2008
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"...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy
Oh I see
You're one of THOSE.
carry on then
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Don't blame me if there's no voice for liberty opposing McCain and Obama in the Presidential debates. I donated to Ron Paul Libertarian, Bob Barr's campaign.
im one of THOSE too..
after seeing court testimony (under oath mind you) by the software programmer who MADE the program used to flip the votes. No one clings to so much bs as truth- you know the truth you just "prefer" to play for the wrong side.
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Yeah
I'm one of THOSE who want fair and transparent elections. And as far as I know human beings can still count, so there is no need for electronic balloting or counting systems running proprietary software.
It's a radical concept especially when you consider that ALL VOTES were once write-in votes.
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"We really do have...a once in a lifetime opportunity to take the Republican Party back to where it was." -Kent Snyder, 1959-2008
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"...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy
Barr has been solid
And with his impeachment testimony today, is getting more solid daily.
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I respectfully disagree...
I can't get past Barr's Viet Dinh-authored, U.S.A. "Patriot" Act vote. But I encourage everyone to exercise their own independent thought, principles, judgment and conscience when choosing whomsoever they wish to vote for, including the best man for the job, Ron Paul.
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"We really do have...a once in a lifetime opportunity to take the Republican Party back to where it was." -Kent Snyder, 1959-2008
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"...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy
here is your answer JKAP
I'm almost too tired to repeat it, but lets try one more time for the misinformed.
Barr and Paul voted AGAINST the Patriot Act in the first vote in the house - it passed anyway.
Then the Senate Passed it.
Then it had to go to the compromise committee to iron out the differences between the two chambers. Barr was invited as one of the members of the committee, Ron Paul was not.
Now remember it ALREADY Passed both the Senate and the House.
In exchange for Barr getting on the committee, he had to promise to vote for the final version.
In the committee, Barr single handedly added sunset provisions and weakened the wording of the Patriot Act, all with the approval of Ron Paul and his staff.
It was the right thing to do, but now Barr even regrets doing that, saying the Administration totally used the Patriot Act in the wrong ways.
Barr is one of the leading advocates of privacy rights, and has been so since he started his carreer back in the 1990's.
In a recent interview
When asked about a possible endorsement for Barr, Ron Paul said that he won't be endorsing anyone UNTIL AFTER THE SEPTEMBER Rally, indicating to me that he was considering endorsing Barr either after the republican convention or at the Rally.
What will everyone do if Ron Paul Endorses Barr in September ? ?
I regret Barr's vote on the "Patriot" Act as well...
...that's why he won't be receiving my vote.
But really, just save your breath. If I wanted to hear people rationalizing votes for anti-liberty legislation, like the Viet Dinh-authored U.S.A. "Patriot" Act, I'd sign up for the Barack H. Obama forums.
By the way, Bob Barr indeed voted FOR the "Patriot" Act (HR 3162). You are confused.
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"We really do have...a once in a lifetime opportunity to take the Republican Party back to where it was." -Kent Snyder, 1959-2008
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"...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy
Why Even Barr-haters Should Vote for Barr in the AOL Poll
And every other poll, especially the real ones...
Right now, McCain is beating Obama. That must change. The stronger McCain looks, the less the GOP needs Ron Paul and/or his supporters.
Voting for Obama won't help. Most polls already show him as a shoo-in. They don't need us.
The bigger the number for Barr, the more value the Ron Paul supporters have to the GOP because it measures support for Freedom at all costs, regardless of the chances of winning. It makes it necessary for them to reach out. If they don't, Barr must get credit for the McCain loss, so that the next cycle, everyone in the dominant parties moves toward the libertarian center.
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