WHAT THE BARR SPAMMERS REALLY THINK OF US. UPDATED!Submitted by docholladay on Fri, 07/25/2008 - 18:46
Below are some quotes from 'preferred' (who is most likely the same guy as 'bedr1', 'JFEJ004', billydee, onevoice, etc) and show pretty clearly what he thinks about Paul supporters who don't trust and support Barr, and who think Bush should be impeached. These guys are here to spread division and confusion. I'm a bit sick of them, I don't know about the rest of you.
ON PAUL SUPPORTERS WHO DON'T SUPPORT BARR
On July 25th, 2008 preferred says:
"I'm convinced that most people on this forum are complete idiots. There are a few intelligent people, but most are idiots or crazy."
"These are the same people who were naive enough to think Dr. Paul had much of a chance at being elected president. ................So I doubt there is getting through to that irrational sect of Paul supporters. They're beyond reasoning with. Their heads are in the clouds. You're not talking to people playing with a full deck here."
"Who in their right mind could think someone advocating that much freedom could win the presidency anyway? Most Americans are nowhere near ready to accept that. "
ON BUSH's IMPEACHMENT
***On July 25th, 2008 preferred says:
"There has been no evidence at all that Bush committed a crime. I don't see any way that Bush would be impeached. Impeachment is the filing of formal charges. Without strong probable cause they he broke the law, it's not going to happen.
This is just political grandstanding, and everyone there knows it."
On July 26th, 2008 docholladay says:
I realize that my post about the 'Barr Spammers' has caused quite a dust-up, and I would like to offer some more thoughts. There have been several intelligent posts about a 'cease fire' on this issue, some well thought out and well written, and I have spent a lot of time thinking about each of them. After consideration, I would like to clarify why I still believe that it is important to expose the troublemakers for what they are. Here's why:
I think that in an ideal world, it would be better to avoid these kinds of conflicts, but due to the fact that our 'enemies' (meaning the neocon establishment and their supporters) are insidious, cunning, and shrewd, it is obvious that we DON'T live in an ideal world. Unfortunately, the methods I've employed are necessary in order to reveal the true nature and motives of a few posters here at the DP whom I FULLY believe are full time employees of the neocon camp, sent here to the DP to distract, confuse, and divide the true patriots of this all important Revolution. It has been proven that these guys operate under multiple screen names, and change them regularly when they get caught, exposed, and blackballed. To prove my point, here's a couple of quotes from BillyDee (who I believe to be the same guy as bedr1, preferred, onevoice, minichrist, JFEJ004, and others)
"I change my username every week or so. When you think I'm gone in a few days, I'll actually still be here under another name. I like keeping people on their toes. I may actually start changing it daily." Billydee
"Trust is Irrelevant".Billydee
These guys have no integrity, and the constant changing of usernames shows that plainly. If they were sincere and honest, they wouldn't need to do this. There is no need for being 'covert' and evasive when your motives are sincere. These are the same guys who have colluded in the past to delete important posts regarding 9/11 and other topics which were actually having an impact, and which are incredibly vital to the fight for liberty in which we are now involved.
I (and most other DPers ) have no problem with liberty and personal choice..... People can vote for Bob Barr, Baldwin, Santa Clause, or Satan for that matter, if they want to. What we DO have a problem with is the CONTINUOUS spamming here for a candidate (Barr) who voted for the Patriot Act, and in whom perceptive Revolutionaries have little to no trust. This site is a Ron Paul site. These guys don't respect others on this site and are constantly trying to marginalize solid positions which are presented here on crucial issues.
"I'm convinced that most people on this forum are complete idiots. There are a few intelligent people, but most are idiots or crazy." preferred
I understand that many other DPers may actually also support Barr and have a different view than most of the rest of us who don't trust him. That is their right and healthy discussion and debate is a good thing. I am merely trying to expose the one or two 'members' here who are strictly working to undermine the momentum of the Ron Paul Revolution..... the ones who evade direct questions, use circular arguements, change user names every couple of days, and who 'talk to themselves' via different user names in an attempt to fool and manipulate others into believing that they have support for an indefensible position.
I also tend to disagree with the idea that being agressive in the search for and presentation of truth in ANY form is harmful to the movement. I understand that certain topics are contriversial (9/11 in particular), but it is those very topics which hold the key to defeating the entire neocon powerbase. If we hold back the truth in order to 'spare someone's feelings' etc, then we are just as guilty of manipulation as the neocons, MSM, etc. The revolution is based on truth, personal responsibility, and the fact that A is A.... that reality is reality and must be dealt with accordingly. When we omit important truths and edit content to make the message more 'appealing' then we compromise the very integrity which gives the Revolution it's power. The thing about the truth is that no matter how ugly it is, it can't be changed, and therefore can be depended on to be a constant... an absolute.
The fact that these clowns are here all day, every day, doing nothing but attempting to detract from the truth of 9/11, the dubious nature of Bob Barr etc, shows that we have them scared. What's more, it shows that either they don't have a job, or more likely that spreading disinfo IS their job. I, for one, am not going to sit back and be 'nice' and 'tolerant' of people whose sole motivation and purpose here is to undermine the very priciples of liberty that I would give my life to defend.
So, say what you will, I refuse to sit back and be passive when it comes to those who obviously want the Revolution, 9/11 truth, and Liberty to fail. I will be as mean, aggressive, and juvinile as it takes to expose these disinfo ass clowns for what they are.