Porn is destroying our people

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I have been reading tons of books lately about history, economics,
philosophy. Been thinking about what is really destroying America.
I think the number one cause of our inexorable descent into destruction is caused by the breakdown in our morals both as a culture and as individuals. I just read a book called "Torn Apart" by Diony George.
Very good, well written, non-fiction book in novel form about how porn destroyed her family. Made me think about the total breakdown of values, decency and morality we are undergoing. I am sure her experiences are not the exception but more the norm. God has been kicked out of our schools and replaced with indoctrination by the state. Immorality is everywhere and accepted as the norm. Porn is everywhere and easily accessible by anyone who wants it.
The family is the root of our society, or used to be. Now it is under attack from all sides and the traditional "american" family is almost a thing of the past. Debt, taxes, inflation, and pornography are destroying the family unit. Not sure how much time we have left before we get past the point of return just like the romans. Our empire is collapsing and we are under assault from all sides.
So many things we need to fight against it is almost overwhelming.
I fear for what my kids will grow up to endure.

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waste of time

this is the dumbest thing i have ever heard short of anything bush has ever said. please go back and read your fairy tail book and don't post .
porn is very enjoyable!!!!!!!! dont like it don't watch it . try to condem it and i have a real problem with you ! sex should be enjoyed and not looked at as taboo look at what happens when people try to supress sexs{catholic church} you end up with sexual frustration ans men molesting children

Naw i happen to see the point of this post

... porn can be an addiction just as ANYTHING can .... when you do something we LIKE we get a chemical rush from our brain to every cell in our body , with porn ... u create that RUSH or HIGH of enjoying sexual activity but on one exception , YOU ARE ALONE , so .... PORN is NOT a bad thing , however , OVER USE IS !!

mutha fuckers quite fuckin cause of porn , people go crazy cause of it and it really does bring u down to a lower level of self confidence and respect for yourself so I say FUCK WATCHING AND JACKING OFF TO IT ... GO GET LAID , FUCK THEM HOES , and SPREAD THE MESSAGE OF FREEDOM !!!

Besides its all illusion , geting yourself off can only be enjoyed so many times .....

hahahahahah anyone can have an opinion , so there's mine

"Universal Truth Is Not Measured In Mass Appeal" - Immortal Technique - The 4th Branch.

The only true evil is humanity wrapped in a flag carring a bible

or the Curran. Many things hurt, kill or destroy and 99.9% it's a human behind them.

"Evil flourishes when good men do nothing."
—Edmund Burke

What really is destoying

this country are evil bastards who do evil deeds to humanity in the name of God and for the betterment of mankind. I call it undercover evil. There is also blatant evil that is in your face and you are given freewill to choose. Of the the evils the undercover evil is much worse, because it is something you would not have chosen if it was not concealed. Peace

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Yes Political Poneralogy! If

Yes Political Poneralogy! If people realized the secret sick sexual stuff that is done to little children they would start focusing on the right things. Porn doesn't cause that socio \and psychopathic behavior does.

Let me ask this..

Do you fantasize during sex while alone or with another ? Would that be "Mind Porn"? Get real, after 20 plus years of marriage it sure helps having a few videos around to liven things up. Just ask my wife.

Oh Yeah!

Date Night!

**“The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them.” ~ Mark Twain **

"...there is no doubt that it (socialism) could not possibly have affected us so widely and so deeply as it has, had it not been heavily financed". - B. Carroll Reece

hmmm

I'll bet a large sum of money that my porn collection proceeds hasn't been subject to taxes for a very long time.

I just ha to add

I don´t see porn as a great evil.. but in a broader sense I understand the topic makers concern

morality has faded in general.. greed is the new god..

that is sad...

Hmmm....

You come to a libertarian minded organization which believes "live and let live", state how there is an evil among us that we must fight against, further pepper it with your particular religion, and your particular understanding of the human condition and say we must fight to enforce your behavior system on others so that your vision of the world will come to be....

Sounds like a lot of people I know, but hopefully very few from here...

Keep reading, keep trying to understand yourself, and one day, maybe you will understand why such calls to fight your religious battles fall on so many deaf ears here.

Amen

**“The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them.” ~ Mark Twain **

"...there is no doubt that it (socialism) could not possibly have affected us so widely and so deeply as it has, had it not been heavily financed". - B. Carroll Reece

Sounds like there are a few

Sounds like there are a few fascist's in here, these people don't support freedom. and no i'm not a porn fanatic. I might look on the internet maybe 4 times a year. But i'm perfectly normal, its not the product its the individual

Every generation needs a new revolution.
- Thomas Jefferson

Porn is not the problem

In God We Trust!

The problem is that their is no fear of God.

There will be one day soon!

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

You fear God?

Wow! What kind of God do you pray to that you need to fear him/it? I heard of one that is all about love and good stuff like that...maybe it's time you re-examined the one you fear and maybe find one that isn't so nasty and mean.

**“The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them.” ~ Mark Twain **

"...there is no doubt that it (socialism) could not possibly have affected us so widely and so deeply as it has, had it not been heavily financed". - B. Carroll Reece

Amen...

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Sounds like there are a few

Sounds like there are a few fascist's in here, these people don't support freedom. and no i'm not a porn fanatic. I might look on the internet maybe 4 times a year. But i'm perfectly normal, its not the product its the individual

Every generation needs a new revolution.
- Thomas Jefferson

Okay, here's the problem

Government support of corporate programs. It's fascism to use tax dollars to promote corporate social programs (like FCC censorship, or abortion). It might seem crazy, but FCC censorship promotes things like pornography. Just like prohibition or war on drugs causes more of the stuff the government is trying to limit.

Look at the paradigms we're being forced to endure-the government watching over us is good and the media whores are bad. Neither is completely true or false because the individuals within those organizations is the core of the problem and using our money to promote social programs that impinge on our freedoms is wrong.

In a free society immoral programs are not supported by the majority of people-they have better things to do.

It's well known

This is one of "businesses" of the illuminati (along with drugs, money laundering, and media).

For more information about these programs look here: http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/svali_speaks.htm#2
-its a confession of a member who escaped and now has disappeared after going public.

Debt, taxes, inflation, and pornography...

Out of those four there are two we can do nothing about: taxes and inflation. Debt and pornography are choices people make just like drug addiction, food addiction or any other excessive habit that brings about their demise.

Personal responsibilty has died in this country - remember the girl who asked Ron Paul during the MTV discussion how he would support her birth control needs? This is the mentality today - it desperately needs to change. No sort of revolution can take place until people stop blaming everything and everyone else for their problems.

It starts in the heart of man and that's where it need to be dealt with.

Immorality will always be with us this side of heaven - that's why we need a Savior this side of heaven. That's how it's dealt with.

“The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.” Ron Paul - The Revolution

I would rather watch my favorite porn star,

and I use the tern "star" loosely, than listen to more of this religiobabble.

Sex is bad you hear me, bad, bad, bad. Anything that depicts or represents this act is even more evil. The fact that sex helped create you makes YOU evil (or a sinner).

You are a lunatic if those sentences made sense to you.

revised Rome

indeed we are well on our way. Porn is an addiction for some. I believe people should be free to live their own lives, but not to the point that it infrenges on others. I guess my point is sex should be private. Folks are out in the streets screaming about their "prefrence" of partners...hey, that's personal isn't it...it used to be. I could care less who's doin who, as long as they keep it to themselves.

The day children enter public school, they are sexualized. Sex is in their faces daily through advertising on TV. You don't have to buy Hussler or Playboy anymore, just visit myspace and you'll see all the skin you want.
Women are now "liberated " and they stick it all out there...for free. They are young and beautiful. Too bad they are convinced they aren't accepted unless they bare all. Modesty is dead, old fashioned, and for the jesus freaks. A sad day indeed.

Many are in denial that porn can lead to tragic ends. It is an obcession for some to the point it takes over them totally and horrible things happen.
http://www.safelibraries.org

oh yeah

it's porn now is it?

good fucking grief, yo.

let's see.......if i were in the mood to speak my own opinion here....
what would i say?....

hmmmmmmmm.....

how about neither your god or our government being a part of my child's education - or my own for that matter? how about not shrinking away from one's own responsibilities in this world by believing in some supernatural power that's watching your every move and instead - place the burden of your life directly and squarely upon your own shoulders.

don't like porn? don't watch it.
don't like poison ivy? don't go riffling through the shit.
don't like what i'm saying? stop reading this.

how does THAT fancy you?
fancy pants.

Outstanding

and I wish they both would have gotten together as a third party. That would be awesome. You know it would almost be a like my marriage. My husband is good with the finances and I was good with the kids. They both want to save our country and have integrity what a rare find in today's world. Peace

Whoops, seems this was put under the wrong thread. Sorry

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Nice fascist thread here

First, we'll get rid of all the porn lovers. Then we'll get rid of all the drug users. Then we'll get rid of all the (insert group name here). And so on until only automatons are left to populate this great christian nation. Does this sound familiar? Read up on how the Nazis took over Germany in the 1930s.

These creeps might try everything & anything to justify...

stupid behavior with all their dumb phylosophies and half-backed arguments, but pornography helps divide families, thereby ruining civilizations over time.

--Cliff, Sioux City, Iowa

Porn helps to divide families?

Mom likes the DP scenes, Jr. is in to mild bondage, Sis likes the girl on girl stuff and Dad would rather reminisce with the Classic stuff. In reality they all watch privately so there is no fighting over exactly what to watch tonight and divisive arguments are truly non-existent.

Otherwise, they still eat dinner together and Mom still shells out money for Jr.'s new much-improved lacrosse stick and Sis's prom dress. Dad is happy since he is satisfied without an argument. Mom is happy since Dad is satisfied without an argument. Dinner is at six and all of the usual suspects still love one another...and themselves.

Lighten up and find another reason for society's downfall. What one uses for a masturbatory catalyst is hardly the culprit.

**“The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them.” ~ Mark Twain **

"...there is no doubt that it (socialism) could not possibly have affected us so widely and so deeply as it has, had it not been heavily financed". - B. Carroll Reece

I too disagree with your assertion....

...that porn is destroying America. There are those in any population who have a propensity for addiction, be it alcohol, gambling, sex, etc....and yes, porn has most-likely destroyed some marriages and relationships.
I also STRONGLY-STRONGLY-STRONGLY disagree with your presumption that religious people, or church-goers, or christian/judeo folks are far better morally than those of us who are not. (Did I mention the word 'strongly'?) Of all the dishonest scumbags I've dealt with over the years in business or met casually, I think it's fair to say 75% of them were hiding behind an aire of being a "good christian" and had a "jesus fish" on the back of their minivan. So again, I diagree with your conclusion...PLEASE don't read into this that I am anti-church goers...I'm not...I think the moral lessons taught in all the different versions of the bible are wonderful tools that I wish we all would abide.
I believe the downfall of American culture as we know it today, can be traced to a single event from the early 80s. A black boy was charged with murdering a neighbor kid in Miami...and his defense lawyer, Ellis Ruben, was able to sell the jury that the violence on TV MADE HIM DO IT!!! That the kid wasn't responsible for his actions...and the idiot jurors bought it, adn aquitted him! ..and from that day forward, no one has been responsible for their own actions. Nothing you do wrong is your fault. Can you imagine stealing a car at 15 or 16? I would beg them to put me in jail so my parents couldn't get ahold of me!! Today, they get a slap on the wrist because it isn't their fault...they had a difficult childhood, daddy ran off and mom smokes crack..and that poor child just isn't supervised...Hey, I know! Let's get the State to do it!..and we'll bill the taxpayers!
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"The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." - Patrick Henry

Hello

If you are going to post something, please provide a good link! A link to good porn would help...LOL

Washington said

"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism, who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens... Let it simply be asked, where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths which are the instruments of investigation in courts of justice? And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education... reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle." (Padover, The Washington Papers, pp.318-319)

“I’m fully diversified. I’ve got some under the mattress, some under the floor boards, some in the backyard.”

Absurd

It is an absurd assumption that only religion or religious people are somehow the only moral human beings. I am agnostic and I can tell you that I have higher morals and ethics than many people that practice religion. I don't need a god or a diety to tell me how to behave well in society. I treat people the way I would want to be treated. All throughout history religious people have been corrupt and immoral. All throughout history non religious people have been corrupt and immoral.

It is also absurd to blame our collapsing country on pornography. I have looked at some form of porn since a school boy and well before the age of the internet. Since when is sex or sexual images so inhumane? How bout we just ban all pornography and sex. I bet the New World Order would love that idea since the population would decrease over night. Lets just legislate sex to the point that we no longer procreate and become extinct. Yeah that would be a wonderful idea. There are countless reasons why our country is being destroyed. How bout our government being unconstitutional? Pornography whether you like it or not is a freedom. As long as nobody gets hurt, killed, or possessions stolen then porn is another freedom that should not be infringed upon. If you don't like porn then don't look at it. Legislating freedom is an oxymoron. I suggest people who want to legislate things under the guise of religion read the entire constitution.

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