Ron Paul says Chuck Baldwin is very very close to his views and Chuck worked hard on Ron's Presidential campiagn

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"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." Benjamin Franklin
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Baldwin is a hardline social conservative. Paul holds personal views that are conservative, but his politics are libertarian -- Baldwins are NOT.

Here's an oversimplified outline showing what the major parties have traditionally claimed to represent (don't respond to tell me that they don't represent their own ideals; we all understand that; pay attention to what I'm actually writing):

--Republican Party: socially conservative, economically right-wing.

--Democratic Party: socially liberal, economically left-wing.

Then there's the three largest third parties:

--Constitution Party: socially conservative, economically right-wing.

--Green Party: socially liberal, economically left-wing.

--Libertarian Party: socially liberal, economically right-wing.

The first thing you should notice is that the LP is the oddball of the bunch. The others are not bucking any trends.

The CP is basically a hardcore version of what the RP claims to be. There's nothing original or dangerous there, as far as the GOP establishment is concerned.

The GP is basically a hardcore version of what the DP claims to be. There's nothing original or dangerous there, as far as the DNC establishment is concerned.

The LP is different: they occupy a unique position that threatens both major parties simultaneously. They remind people that politics has two dimensions, not one. The major parties don't want people to be reminded of that. So the GOP establishment marginalizes the LP by calling them socially decadent, and the DNC establishment marginalizes the LP by calling them economically heartless. What should be clear to all of us is that the LP represents the anti-establishment position, at least as far as parties with a statistical chance of winning go. There may be better representatives of that position, but they are not worth discussing, due to the realities of ballot access.

The LP is where we belong, not the CP, and certainly not the GP.

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imo - except when you descend to abuse and rumors.

This is what we should be doing - holding their feet to the fire and making them *prove* beyond doubt they are worthwhile - as regards Barr anyway.

And with Baldwin - he and the CP have to have to have to wake up to the fact that they will be a permanent 1% party if they don't go libertarian on social issues.

The only future is with young people - most of them are NOT prolife. Because Dr. Paul is so hardcore on drugs and so consistent and he explained it was states rights, they let that one slide - ONLY JUST let it slide.

The CP is a dead end, a tiny insignificant party that will actually prevent any real change by sucking up the votes of people who would otherwise vote for a serious Constitutional libertarian.

STOP TALKING ABOUT THE BIBLE PLEASE CHUCK BALDWIN AND THE CP!!!!!! If they do that, the sky is the limit. Because they are imo less silly than the Libertarian party. I prefer them but I would like to get behind a party and a man who is going to get more than .5% of the vote frankly.

I knew the Barr trolls would not be happy with this thread.... Sigh! Anyway, if I had the money I would support Baldwin as he is the best choice after RP.... I will NEVER support Barr... did you hear that?! NEVER!!! And any sane RP supporter wouldn't either! He's not even second best! Chuck obviously is.... and that's that! Stop the pestering already!!

on this thread you resigned from revolution broadcasting:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/56789

So now is this what you are going to be doing with your free time?
Give it a break until after the damned convention mr ron paul supporter.

I would abstain from voting or write in Ron Paul before I would ever vote for some fundamentalist jackass that WOULD try to take away my personal
liberty's and freedoms.I'll never vote for anyone that wears their religion on their sleeve.Ever.

Paper Ballots,Hand Counted At The Precinct Or Bust

for not leaving me to twist in the wind.Whether we can pull it of at the convention the r3VOLution must carry on.God be with our delegates who are so bravely have volunteered to man the FRONT lines for us.Lates support them with whatever donations we can.

Baldwin is going no where. His stance on Social issues are so far from Rons it is laughable. Barr was supporting Ron the whole time. Ron Paul was a once in a lifetime candidate, now we must support the one candidate who has a chance to continue the message.

Bob Barr is having a distinct impact, though how long that will hold in a tight race is anybody’s guess. Right now, if you believe Zogby, Barr is pulling at least 5% (and sometimes 7-9/10%) in 22 states! Nationally he’s only showing at 3%, but for him to be having this sort of impact in nearly half the states is pretty damn amazing.

Please DSP, get off of your high horse, because you lost my trust months ago.