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Paul On Fox News Discussing Marijuana Decriminalization

Nystrom's Comment: We interrupt this broadcast to bring you the truth. After all the favorable coverage Dr. Paul has been getting in the news recently, in this piece he got set up. Fox news wanted to push their agenda, and they used Dr. Paul as a boogy man. For the best book to educate yourself on the marijuana and hemp issues, check out The Emperor Wears No Clothes, by Jack Herrer. This was one of the first books, about ten years ago, that introduced me to the ideas of corporatism and government fascism and the idea that things are not what they appear to be. Don't forget that not only is marijuana illegal, but so is industrial hemp, which contains no THC - the substance that gets people "high." Why is that? It has something to do with competitive products like paper and nylon, controlled by big corporations like Hearst and Dupont. Get the story from this book. I promise that you won't be disappointed. (No, I don't smoke but I have plenty of responsible friends who do.)

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All plants should be legal...

smoke 'em if you got 'em.

Smoke some Weed

what the fuck @ her false facts.

holland owns

Marijuana is NOT the issue

I read some of the posts here and thought I would suggest something important when discussing this issue.

It is utterly irrelevant whether smoking marijuana is good, bad, or neither. It's a red herring. Don't fall for it.

The issue of its legality is a fundamental question of the proper role of government and laws. When you discuss this issue with those who might disagree, discussing the merits of marijuana itself is a waste of time and hurts our position.

The rightful (and only rightful) purpose of government and laws is to protect rights. Maximum freedom is attained by the careful balance of: "your rights end where someone else's rights begins".

In the case of drugs--the act of taking drugs in and of itself does not infringe on anyone else's rights. Drugs can be used to or involved in crimes, but other people are involved in those cases.

Some argue that drug use leads to crimes and thus we should outlaw the drugs because the crime that is thus caused. Then we'd be getting into pre-crime. I think it's fairly easy to suggest what a general doctrine of criminalizing pre-crime would do. "100% of criminals drank water within 3 days of committing a crime"--bust all those water drinkers!

Anyway, I urge the general public debate--the merits of marijuana are a red herring, avoid discussing it if you want to discuss whether it should be legalized or not. There should be no law against the act of ingesting anything simply because it infringes on no one else's rights. That's it.

I personally consider it harmful to take marijuana (and such drugs), alcohol (which is why I find the comparison to alcohol funny and meaningless--so don't drink alcohol either!), coffee, and other things and would be an advocate for not consuming those things. However, that's my worldview, and we don't need the government imposing any certain worldview on the populace. That's one of the primary reasons the first settlers came to this continent from Europe: freedom to have one's own view on things!

Good point

The real issue is rights.

Think they "set up" the Congressman?

I suppose it looks like it, and I wouldn't doubt it. But the thing is, she didn't rebut his main point at all: You just don't legislate morality. If someone wants to harm themselves, that's their business. Even IF marijuana is more harmful than alcohol/tobacco (a bit of a stretch, at the very least), that still isn't enough reason to make it illegal.
Even without the last word, Mr. Paul wins this argument easily.

What she said about Holland

What she said about Holland is complete utter FAUX BULLSHIT.

lets look at the facts

Holland:
Lifetime prevalence of marijuana use (ages 12+): 17.0%
Past month prevalence of marijuana use (ages 12+): 3%
Lifetime prevalence of heroin use (ages 12+): 0.4%
Incarceration Rate per 100,000 population: 100
Per capita spending on criminal justice system (in Euros): €223

USA:
Lifetime prevalence of marijuana use (ages 12+): 36.9%
Past month prevalence of marijuana use (ages 12+): 5.4%
Lifetime prevalence of heroin use (ages 12+): 1.4%
Incarceration Rate per 100,000 population: 701
Per capita spending on criminal justice system (in Euros): €379

http://www.drugwarfacts.org/thenethe.htm

Prohibition DOES NOT WORK

Because of this video

I for some reason started researching hemp. Go figure.

Long story short, copy and paste "hemp +dupont" in to google's search box and a whole different story begins to emerge.

If I have learned nothing else, I have learned that following the money leads to more "truth" than anything else.

It's a shame that it seems that the "truth" of most matters turns out to not really be good for average, run-of-the-mill people like myself but rather "profitable" for run-of-the-mill politicians.

A fantastic video is at

A fantastic video is at www.phoenixtears.ca
It is called Run from the Cure. Watch it 5 minutes and you will be hooked.
Proven THC cures cancer.

Al Gore is a Dupont

you live next to a Dupont chemical plant?

Now there's some global warming for ya.

Unify

What a bunch of BS!

Oh, so they're not putting people in jail for small amounts? If so, it's because that person had THOUSANDS to spend on their defense. All these drug laws are is revenue makers for our massas. Get arrested, have to spend money for: bail, an attorney, etc. The massa gets to tax us to get money for the DEA, prosecutors, sentencing, jails, jail employees, etc. If they made it legal, they would lose this WONDERFUL cash cow! It has nothing to do with keeping it unlawful to protect peoples' well being! What on earth would we do if there was no reason to rob & hurt people to get money for drugs, if drugs cost next to nothing & were legal? What on earth would all the pd's & drug agencies do if they couldn't sieze our property just because they thought we had drugs? Cmon folks - we gotta keep the pigs in shit!

And don't forget

all the money from seizing assets. Everyone in jail not only represents part of the slave labor force, but also all of their possessions which are taken BEFORE being found guilty of any crime.

Jeanine Pirro Credability

Here is a link to the credability of Jeanine Pirro also interviewed in this video: http://www.observer.com/term/24684
She witheld information as the DA in a murder case that could have helped an innocent man. Not only is she not qualified as a medical witness but she is not on solid ground with her legal issues. Maybe she needs to read the 9th amendment!!

What can you expect from a Judge anyway.

I think she (the Judge) is just another out of touch ex-public offical.
Check out this site http://www.jackherer.com/ and read some of the things that he says about the studies that have been done and most of the anti-pot laws are all based on junk science to begin with.

I have smoked weed for 30 years. I'm 46 years old never been in

jail and never been unemployed. I make a very nice living.

You can eat pharmaceutical drugs and drink alcohol, but you will go to jail for smoking a weed. Frankly, I am tired of paying for room and board, health care and all the court costs for a person who wants to smoke.

"Evil flourishes when good men do nothing."
—Edmund Burke

Rememeber this

Fox news is ALL about propaganda.

All about information management.

Do you think they put Dr. Paul on the TV in service to liberty?

You think they set Murdoch's agenda aside for one second?

They are using Dr. Paul and the Doc knows it.

The Doc has walked into their "set ups" since the beginning and he does it anyway.

He does it because he IS THE MAN.

Hannity, and Cavuto have never done anything but piss on the doc. NOTHING.

The Doc knows he can still deliver the truth while these scum try to paint him.

Watch how Dr. Paul handles the screw job. Watch the gutless little coward Cavuto as he does his master's bidding and paints the Doc as anything less than a fine man. It is all about "association" and Fox and CNN are masters at it.

They are propagandist scum. Repeat that to yourself as you watch it and then...SHUT IT OFF.

Stop acting like these news shows are trying to help us. Once you do that you can understand the truth and help everyone.

Learn this from this media crap.

Dr. Paul walks into these so called interviews and allows these animals to treat him like dirt for the simple reason that Dr. Paul believes in God.

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Unify

This is not an important

This is not an important issue. Why is RP wasting his time on FOX about this; they just want to paint him as an anti-war drug supporting hippie. This was not good.

Yeah, I know, .....

This is not an important

This is not an important post. Maybe impotent, but...

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i agree with RP's stance,

i agree with RP's stance, but I too tell the truth. From a PR stance, it harms him with a lot of people. I'll tell you like it is from my standpoint. With all the problems we have right now, smoking pot is not at the top of the list.

Its not important surface level...

but on a philosophical level.....its of the utmost significance.

If this was to succeed the idea that I own my own body and am free to do with it what I choose would succeed.

That my friend, is a big plank of the ideology of liberty.

Very good point

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exactly!!

tha is why it is important and also because it would start the ball rolling on ridding ourselves of the war on drugs. there is no war and yet they make sure it continues. sick.
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All I want is a vote

I'm not holding out some hope that this bill will actually pass. I'm madly hoping that it will somehow find it's way out of commitee (the terminal point for almost all good legislation) and onto the floor for a vote.

If Barney and the good doctor can somehow get this bill on the floor, then we'll get to find out who in congress is listening to their consituants. Then we can shout loud and clear which congressmen are standing in the way of progress, and make them join the ranks of the jobless.

How? What better way to get lazy stoners off their couches and to the polls in November than to tell them that their representative in congress wants them in jail.

Please...get this bill to the floor as fast as you can.

I know more wealthy stoners...

than poor ones and who are anathema to "lazy stoners".. The fact is that most of those that I know (I'm 50) that still smoke pot are also among the most productive friends that I have. The caveat to that are the friends that I have who still smoke yet have alcohol problems as well. It is substance abuse, typified by heavy drinking that ruins people...not smoking a joint before bed...

**“The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them.” ~ Mark Twain **

"...there is no doubt that it (socialism) could not possibly have affected us so widely and so deeply as it has, had it not been heavily financed". - B. Carroll Reece

I don't mean to pigeonhole

There are certainly people who indulge in every vice imaginable and still lead very productive lives...these people are counterexamples to the stereotype lazy stoner...I agree.

But there are millions of 20 somethings in this country who care nothing but where their next baggie will come from...and these people generally aren't motivated to get up and vote...unless we can show them that their congressman thinks of them as a federal criminal.

Well, heh, you are

I am 23 years old.

I graduated from my university over a year ago with a degree in accounting/economics.

I have a productive job. I work out. I play my guitar. I write. I am heavily involved in politics.

....and I smoke almost every night before I go to bed.

Yeah, I was one of those "20 somethings"...

back in the day. Their biggest problem in finding motivation is the dichotomy that arises from the "team" indoctrination that takes place throughout the schooling years. They (we) have been taught that the team is what is important and what will be there to support them in their life's endeavors. Sadly, it is the crude awakening to the fact that it is "individual" effort that sustains you...not the group. The group/team paradigm dissappears with the closing of the school's doors behind you.

Once this paradigm shift hits...it is difficult to re-acclimate to reality...that this is truly a "dog eat dog" world. Getting stoned is easier than affecting "change"...certainly it is easier than voting for it...

**“The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them.” ~ Mark Twain **

"...there is no doubt that it (socialism) could not possibly have affected us so widely and so deeply as it has, had it not been heavily financed". - B. Carroll Reece

notice how they would not

notice how they would not let Paul rebutt pirro... lol they are afraid of the DOCTOR!

as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD

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Well, I think they asked Mr Paul because they wanted to know the opinion of the possible next president of the United States? :)

Silly and Transparent

She tried.

But the moment she said that no politician would support ending federal prohibition, she lost all credibility. I was so glad she used Ron Paul's name at the end. It was a mistake on her part.

IMissLiberty

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Th emost important aspect of this is....

Each liberty loving citizen to learn their true responsibility when appointed to the grand jury, or even simple jury duty. If our politicians are not bold enough to do what is right to garner the support of individuals like the so called judge on Faux, then so be it. Let the people make the change, let the people prevail, and let the people run Fox news off the air and send them to all to work for Al-Jazeera where propaganda against their own people is equal that of Fox. Last night I heard Fox news and CNN announce that the surge was a success, and this is to boost McCain, but the reality from 7/29/2008 is this - http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=v...
Just like the mis-information agents at Fox working for the White House on cover ups and propaganda against anyone who speaks out against the status quo, the truth will eventually catch up with them and the partisan fools that believe everything they hear there will loose confidence. When a news agency reports on a non lethal substance and being “killer”, “Gateway”, or any of these ridiculous claims they certainly loose more and more credibility as time goes forth… and they wonder why their ratings have fallen since 1/1/07…

In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.
~Mark Twain

Always remember:
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." ~ Samuel Adams
If they hate us for our freedom, they must LOVE us now....

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