So you think KuCiNiCh supports the CONSTITUTION? Think again.

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"Kucinich is currently drafting legislation that would ban the purchase, sale, transfer, or possession of handguns by civilians." From his website: http://kucinich.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentI... So much for the 2nd Amendment.

And on economic liberties, he tramples all over the Constitution and free-market capitalism every chance he gets. Votes against it every time. He does not respect limitations on government intervention in the economy. He wants more government involvement in the economy, more welfare, more regulations, more government programs, and more taxes. He doesn't even come close to standing for the ideas Dr. Paul stands for. So he's against the war and spying. Big deal. There's a lot more to the ideals of a free society than that.

Don't fall for that lying, insincere, pathetic leftist wimp, when he invokes "the Constitution." He only cares about the Constitution when it's convenient to his liberal socialist agenda, and when it's not, as is almost always the case, he just ignores it. So can we stop the Kucinich glorification on this site already?

Suggestions posted on this site that he speak at the St. Paul rally are ludicrous.

We are conservatives, not liberals, as we wish to preserve the principles of the Founders. Kucinich doesn't have the foggiest clue what those principles are or simply rejects them.

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Nope, I'd never vote for

Nope, I'd never vote for Kucinich. But he's welcome to join a coalition publicity effort.

I think we need to move forward on two fronts: (1) a Big Tent pro-civil liberties agenda, and (2) a more tightly focused constitutionalist agenda.

A third agenda would be a "getting someone elected President" agenda, which, ironically is where this movement came from, but we aren't making much progress in that direction now.

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Paul works with Kucinich on war

If you went on liberal sites six months ago, they were having exactly the same arguments about Ron Paul: ~right about the war, but all of his other policies are terrible. I was banned from one site for trying to explain Ron Paul in more favorable terms.

Kucinich isn't evil. He's just liberal. I signed Kucinich's petition to impeach Bush. I support it 100%. Our man, Ron Paul, often works with Kucinich on issues pertaining to war.

None of this means that Kucinich should be invited to talk at the St. Paul rally. He shouldn't. His liberal politics are wrong for that rally.

In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.
-- Thomas Jefferson

I don't know about evil

but, he's not sincere. Lately he's been trying to put forth the impression that he cares about the Constitution, but it's obvious that he doesn't. He like a few things about it, and tosses the rest aside. He's using talk about the "the Constitution" as nothing more than a sales gimmick for his career. It's really not even a possibile to be a liberal and Constitutionalist at the same time, since the following the Constitution would prohibit the liberal economic agenda.

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Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich

Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich both want to stop the war and fight
for lost civl liberties.

Why can't we all use each other in the fight to stop the war, regain
our civil liberties, and get our military out of foreign countries?

Same goes for Cynthia McKinney.

We use our supporters, Dennis's supporters, and Cynthia
McKinney's supporters.

We keep building brigades. Adding leaders. Each general (leader)
guides her/his brigade.

I believe McKinney and Kucinich are closet libertarian leaners.

Always Have Thought

That "Demon-crats" are on the "tricky side", but of course, don't leave out the "Non-Republic"-cans.

Anyway, I don't know much about Kucinich and I'm not gonna study his actions now, only when they come up do I take a look.

Both Political Parties can be utterly abolished as far as I'm concerned, start over!
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The ones who tried to pass "the most ignorant of legislation", "Amnesty", and now the ones who sold "Our Rights" down the toilet with the "Patriot Act(s), "These Are The Traitors"!

Dennis Kucinich asked about

Dennis Kucinich asked about Ron Paul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py8cXlLyX18

Watch this, and then explain what would be gained by attacking Kucinich? Keep in mind, Ron Paul has said something somewhat similar to what Kucinich said about Ron Paul.

The point here is that Kucinich isn't the issue we need to be focused on. A lot of people who supported Kucinich donated to and supported Ron Paul because Ron Paul was doing better. We would be losing support, not gaining any, by attacking Kuncinch.

I disagree with (many of) Kucinich's policies just as much if not more than anyone else here, but there is nothing to gain from this battle. Would Ron Paul go after Kucinich? Why should we?

By the way, if I remember correctly, Ron Paul came in 2nd place in a Dem straw poll in California, right behind Kucinich. Choose your battles wisely.

Disarming the citizen

Disarming the citizen happened during the Martial Law period under ex-strongman/president Marcos until now in the Philippines. General perception is that crimes are generally committed by the military or paramilitary and police and their friends.

RE Kucinich, I wonder if he mentions the constitution a lot, surely he must know about the 2nd amendment.

One would think that a would be criminal would be more careful if the society is armed--hence an armed citizen is a deterent to crime. Even would be road ragers would think twice if they are not sure if the other party also carries firearms.

Where was Kucinich when Ron Paul singly voted against provoking China with human rights charges.
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog/?p=270

The way politics work is

The way politics work is finding common cause with different folks at different times. Kucinich and Paul probably disagree on 70-80 percent of policy but we will be allies on the 30-20 percent of things we agree on. If you think any one person is going to fill the Paul mold completely, you better think again.

Kucinich is also a man of principle and you know where he is coming from. In this age that's rare. He is someone we can work with on certain items.

OK so go look at romney-

OK so go look at romney- guillinai- mccain etc.. if you really look at them Ron Paul would be closer to them.. so why don't we negotiate with mccain and then Ron Paul can endorse him! if its against the Constitution you don't work with anyone.. this is why I hate mccain he loves to work with the enemy... mccain fiengold, mccain kennedy, mccain shumer.. think about it! Ron Paul has no plan to endorse mccain so why would he endorse kucinich! if we took everyone under the tent then the neocons should come too! there is hardly any difference between a socialist neocon or a socialist democrat except war.! go look at voting records there is hardy any difference between mccain and kucinich! wake up folks! either your a liberty loving , freedom loving, limited government Ron Paul republican or your not! and i'm talking Constitutional law and economics.. I am not putting "lifestyles" into this.. wether your conservative or liberal when it comes to how people live.. NOW should they come to the rally Heck ya.. should the have a prominent role? NOOOOOOOOOO ... no speach, no public time infront of the microphone! there message is flawed!

as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD

“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.” (Prov. 22:3; 27:12 KJV)

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If he's a man of "principle"

then what is his principle? It's certainly not the principle of liberty.

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A recent study indicates

A recent study indicates that many perpetrators of murder had histories of mental illness. ...

Bush & Cheney's Mental Illness

What are the specific illnesses of Bush and Cheney?

What is the evidence that they are ill?

What are the delusions that make them think the use of nuclear weapons in Iran will help them? *

Bush: The most deceitful, immature, delusional and dangerous President in American history

Bush, a narcissistic Mama’s Boy, suffers from megalo-mania which causes him to behave like an adolescent who will listen to no one, but follows his intuition with the false Messianic certitude of a sleepwalker until he comes to the edge of the precipice in Iraq from which there is no escape, causing his personality to unravel, and in his panic unleash even more destructive forces, like invading Iran with nuclear weapons, resulting in the already destructive forces to rush headlong to their final tragic destruction, as they are now in Operation Darius.

Mankind’s only hope is the emergence of a conscious and responsible citizenry to channel the released forces and Operation Darius, stop them and civilize them.

Emotionally, Bush is still a child, a Mama’s Boy, at best a 14-year-old adolescent whose life has always been nothing but fantasies and delusions driven by a Messianic complex. From early childhood, Bush’s mother always called him, “The Chosen One.”

(See Barbara Bush’s comment at the sermon that Bush was to save the world.)

Bush’s close friend and Cabinet Member, Don Evans, has said “Bush knows that we’re all here to serve a greater calling … he understands that he is the one person in the country, in this case, really the one person in the world, who has the responsibility to protect and defend freedom.”

Bush has an infinitely deep inferiority complex and equally deep feeling of impotency, not being the man his father was. Bush overcompensates these overpowering fears by a false sense of superiority and bravado. His speech filled with endless bravado and “mano a’mano” statements to his enemies or those who befriend his enemies “… you can’t hide, no matter where you go, we will hunt you down and kill you” – yet in over five years, backed by the greatest Army and technology the world has ever known, Bush has failed to capture Osama bin Laden, or Omar, the Head of the Taliban. Hardly the language of a mature adult, let alone the head of a great nation.

Bush thinks war is a videogame and he’s John Wayne – while thousands of American heroes and innocent Iraqi civilians are murdered, maimed and mutilated every month.

Bush’s inferiority has solid roots in reality. His incompetence has failed at everything he’s ever tried to do in his life, from school to every business he’s ever tried. Only his family and his father kept him going from one venture to another based on his father’s friends, which is why he was still an obsessive-compulsive alcoholic addict at the age of 40. The only success he ever had was when Karl Rove took over his life and made him Governor and then President. But his greatest, most visible and colossal failures were yet to come – Bush’s failure in the war in Afghanistan, his even greater failure in Iraq, and the war on terror, including the thousands of people still homeless and destitute by his incompetence and failure in Katrina.
Bush’s Extremely Dangerous Megalomania

“I’m the Commander see, I do not need to explain why I say things. That’s the interesting thing about being the President … (I) don’t feel that I owe anybody an explanation.” -- President Bush, to the National Security Council

“As President I’m no longer accountable to anyone for my actions.” -- Bush, Bob Woodward interview

“I don’t need to talk to anyone. I talk directly to the Man upstairs.” -- Bush, Press Conference

“I don’t need to go to Congress over Iran. I’m the decision-maker.” -- Bush, Interview

Behind Bush’s affable exterior, there is a powerful, but obscure delusional system that drives his behavior. Megalomania refers both to a conscious and unconscious mental attitude, as well as actual behavior.

This was written by Tom Laughlin ( Billy Jack) also a psychologist, To read all of it go to www.billyjack.com than to the left click on national movement to end war. scroll to the bottom click here for The overwhelmong evidence of Bush and Cheny's Mental Illness

" When policemen break the law there is no law, just the fight for survival"
~ Quote by Billy Jack

Kucinich/gun

I was a democrat until someone told me what was going on. Now I love and support Dr. Ron Paul. In light of what Dennis has been doing lately I support him also. I don't mind the government helping people with there basic needs and healthcare but NO to give up the right to own a gun to protect yourself , family or anyone I can't live with that. Dennis seems like a good man and maybe he could learn how important it is to be able to have a gun.

" When policemen break the law there is no law, just the fight for survival"
~ Quote by Billy Jack

don't mind the government

don't mind the government helping with basic needs or healthcare.. so basically what your saying is your a socialist! so its ok for the government to bail out rich dudes who run there mortgage companies into the ground! think! you can't have it both ways.. either your for liberty free of government intervention or your not! there is no grey area here.. so when you say its ok for the government to help people you don't mind them taking the money by force from you to give to someone else! thats crazy.. that is not liberty or freedom! TO MANY PUBLIC SCHOOL BRAINWASHINGS HERE!

as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD

“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.” (Prov. 22:3; 27:12 KJV)

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Well, that sure is

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He's a democrat.

I think his heart is in the right place. His head and his polotics are just screwed up. Why would you think a democrat would stand for those things. They never have. The repulicans have'nt for a long time either. Even the ones that preached did'nt practice it. I know the republican creed. Does anyone know the democrats creed or if they have one?

I don't like Kucinich,

but I do support his impeachment activity against Bush.

I don't think much of Stalin...

But I approve of his battle against Hitler.

-jcr

"The problem with trying to child-proof the world, is that it makes people neglect the far more important task of world-proofing the child." -- Hugh Daniel

Pretty funny joke!

You should do comedy.

lol. now I have to clean

lol. now I have to clean beverage out of my keyboard.

thanks for the yucks!

I have to agree with

I have to agree with quotes... just because he agrees with Ron Paul on the war, does not make him a champion of the constitution or liberty!
his voting record SUCKS!

as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD

“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.” (Prov. 22:3; 27:12 KJV)

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you have it wrong

the gun buy back is intended to recycle useless guns.We had the same thing in michigan a couple years ago. It just gets dangerous guns off the street. It doesn't say anything about you "have to " sell your guns back. It's voluntary and it helps people pay their bills if they have old cruddy guns at home.

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So only fascists and criminals get to have weapons

Don't know how someone could get that the bill is only about getting only hazardous guns turned in from this statement off Dennis' website:

Kucinich is currently drafting legislation that would ban the purchase, sale, transfer, or possession of handguns by civilians. A gun buy-back provision will be included in the bill.

Sentenal... thats a bunch of

Sentenal... thats a bunch of crapola! you actually believe this nonsense?

as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD

“A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.” (Prov. 22:3; 27:12 KJV)

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Read again

"ucinich is currently drafting legislation that would ban the purchase, sale, transfer, or possession of handguns by civilians."

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He wants universal health

He wants universal health care what ?

Forgot about that one

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haha I'm from his area!

I don't like him. He's a stereotypical liberal democrat/socialist. Sure, he gets a few things right, but the majority ff his positions suck.

At least he's in the best 10% of congress.

but that doesn' t say very much.

Where is

Dr. Paul?