" Jesse Benton, a spokesman for Ron Paul, said that his boss does not plan to recommend supporters to champion Barr

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Ron Paul has stated that Chuck Baldwin is very, very close to his views and that Chuck Baldwin worked very hard on Ron Paul's campaign for President. Where was Bob Barr during Ron Paul's campaign? Did Bob Barr endorse Ron Paul? Chuck Baldwin endorsed Ron Paul! Did Barr work hard for Ron Paul's Presidential Campaign? Chuck Baldwin did!

Many of us supported Ron Paul through thick and thin. We never became discouraged as we witnessed the media bias. It actually made us fight even harder to promote the message of freedom and liberty and the rule of law based on our Constitution. Of course, many of us continue to fight on to retain a Government that actually works for the people.

But every great strategy needs a backup plan.

If Ron Paul does not win the nomination in September at the RNC Convention in MN, we need to be prepared. We need to have a candidate who is well funded and who is ready for the big game. Who is that person? None other than Ron Paul's friend of many years, Chuck Baldwin, the presidential nominee for the Constitution Party.

June 23 2008 " Jesse Benton, a spokesman for Ron Paul, said that his boss does not plan to recommend supporters to champion Barr. "Bob and Ron are former colleagues and they're friends. But that's where the relationship ends."

Yes, here we go again. The main stream media seems to be pretending to acknowledge Bob Barr as the 3rd party worth noting and Chuck Baldwin is experiencing a COMPLETE MSM blackout just like Ron Paul did. Why? Probably because he isn't afraid to call them out! If the MSM likes Bob Barr, WE DON'T!

We are asking all of you to continue to help us and support the freedom message with the people that actually mean what they say and practice what the preach.

We are holding a fundraiser for Chuck Baldwin August 17th, 2008. On August 17th, 1990, George H.W. Bush claimed that Iraq was in the way of the New World Order.

We are asking all of you to please visit

http://www.NoNewWorldOrder.com and pledge to donate to Chuck Baldwin's campaign so that you can help Chuck promote Ron Paul's message. Chuck Baldwin has been doing just that by working within Ron Paul's campaign, and now he will do it again on a national scale through his campaign for President as the nominee of the Constitution Party.

Ron Paul supports Chuck Baldwin as stated on CNN and other Main Stream Media outlets across the country and we support him as well. Now we need all of you to get behind him with us. No donation is too small.

Ron Paul has said that revolutions are long term projects and we will continue to honor him by spreading his message world wide until we bring America back to what is once was, A Constitutional Republic.

Please help us to continue to move forward and make the changes that need to be made in this country: http://www.NonewWorldOrder.com

Be sure to tune in for live coverage of the Money Bomb event all day long on August 17th, 2008 on http://www.RevolutionBroadcasting.com

Thank you all!

Dr. Steve Parent

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I'm no expert here and have

I'm no expert here and have never run a campaign but I have a suggestion to make. I think there's a solution to this problem (if Dr. Paul doesn't get the nomination). Barr and Baldwin should focus their efforts on winning states. Both Baldwin and Barr electors would promise to vote for Dr. Paul in the event of no candidate getting a majority. It's preferable if efforts were focused on the small states, since you don't need that many votes to win a small state. Plus you wouldn't have to spend as much as if you're campaigning nationwide. Don't get me wrong because Barr and Baldwin need to be known nationwide. But we're given limited options. We need to play the game. If it's been proven that a candidate with regional appeal can be a major player in the past, this should be considered. We need to force this into overtime.

Hes not going to endorse Chuck Baldwin either.

Ron Paul said he would not get in between Barr and Baldwin.

Chuck Baldwin has no political experience.
The Constitution Party has a contradictory combination of beliefs in its platform; look at this mess:

Pro-capitalism/individualism + no women in the military, no gambling, no free market or recreational drugs = NOT pro-capitalism and individualism

For the war on drugs + against the war in Iraq = sometimes for the use of force via holding elusive principles of government force.

pro- Capitalism(western)(rational self-interest) + pro-Christian(middle-eastern)(preaches altruism) = ZERO

anti-gay marriage + Anti-NWO = A VERY UNIQUE COMBINATION OF BELIEFS!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are expecting Ron Paul's "marching orders" will get people to vote Baldwin as if they do not have brains to think for themselves and see how ridiculous and fringe and rare these combination of beliefs that Chuck Baldwin and the CP hold; AND HOLD VERY STRONGLY. Ron Paul doesn't beleive in marching orders he believes in the individual's use of reason.

Thanks for pointing that out

I didn't realize that the Constitution Party was that much of a joke.

has anyone seen

how close chuck baldwin is to having being on all ballots? pretty close!

FOR GODS SAKE GO AWAY!

You have said for like the thirs time that you were going to leave the Revolution, please LEAVE.

All you do is stir up drama annd try and create drama about why your in and then why your out, just leave.

And again what kind of Doctor are you Steve? My name is now Dr. Hentvson, does it mean anyting? NO!

You are no better than any other voulnteer that worked on the campaign.....there is only one good doctor here that I listen to- and that is Dr. Ron Paul!

-Dr. Hentvson

I've already bet $50 of useless dollar bills that

Dr. Paul will endorse Baldwin and NOT Barr. I doubt I will lose.

I agree

I agree with some of the post below, this post is very divisive. I think I'm about as tired as I can be of reading attack posts here about Barr or Baldwin. I'm supporting them both which is what I believe Dr. Paul would want as he sees it as part of an overall movement. Neither will win this year. Obama is going to breeze past McCain but when he gets in and No Change happens people are going to be very very angry. The next election offers a real shot at the gold.

"It is the responsibility of the patriot to protect his country from its government."

— Thomas Paine

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Funny and Sad

Irony.

That anyone would envy Barr's coverage and not characterize it as a "MSM blackout" is funny/ironic to me.

Barr's coverage is so much less than Ron Paul's coverage ever was (did you see any Libertarians in any of the debates so far?) and we called Dr. Paul's coverage a "MSM blackout."

I guess I should be encouraged that Libertarians are now envied. It beats pity!

IMissLiberty

IMissLiberty

Barr is much more accepted by the MSM

He is not being marginalized like Dr. Paul. His views are accepted in the 'main stream' which makes me very suspect.

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It doesn't look list the MSM is accepting him here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVSk4ZftD1Q Hannity is livid with him.

Not that it matters to me. I don't base my support on someone on whether the MSM appears to like them. "If the MSM likes him, then I don't!" How mindless and stupid is that? Complete idiocy.

I've seen plenty of interviews in the MSM where the interviewer clearly likes and accepts Dr. Paul.

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This from the same "individual"

This from the same "individual" who doesn't have a problem with the "mainstream" media at all, defends the "mainstream" media, and discourages criticisms of the "mainstream" media:

I don't have a problem with the media.

On August 4th, 2008 quotes says:

That's what makes me special.

There are so many medias to choose from that's it not a problem. So what if CNN or Fox doens't give Dr. Paul as much time as we'd like? It's not their responsibility. These are private institutions, with guaranteed free press rights from our Constitution. How about respecting that instead of criticizing them for doing what they want with their own property?

I see people criticizing the media as if they have some kind social responsibilty to present all sides of an issue and all candidates equally. I'm not buying that. That's socialism. That's the premise behind the Fairness Doctrine, which Dr. Paul, and all libertarians should be opposing, which is an attempt to force it on these businesses. Once you start pushing the premise that the media has a responsibility to be fair or informative, it's just one step closer to forcing it on them, because if they're morally obligated to be fair or informative, why not force it on them? I reject that premise. The media has no social responsibilty other than to maximize shareholder profit. How about we start respecting the principles behind a free market, capitalism, the profit-incentive, private property, and Constitutionally guaranteed free press (meaning a press that can say, or not say, whatever they want)? Let's stop bitching about the media. They don't owe us a damned thing.

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I guess the "mainstream" media is doing a fine job according to "quotes." Hell, to listen "quotes" the "mainstream" media shouldn't even be criticized.

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I agree

I think that is a great post.

Wow

You don't have a problem with the media and you would discourage criticisms of said propaganda matrix huh? Wow.

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"...a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -John F. Kennedy

No, I think the vast majority of media persons

are unintelligent. Regarding criticism of them, of course. I do it myself all the time.

I don't however think that they are part of a conspiracy. 99% of news people are either conservatives or liberals. So what do you expect?
They're dumb...

The reason I agree with quotes' post was because of his defense of private property.

That's a really eloquent.

Thanks for posting that.

Criticizing the mainstrea media is fine now and then, a But for many here, it's become an obssession, a waste of time, and a distraction from the liberty movement. And I don't see much respect given around here for the Constitutional right to freedom of the press.

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We are the media

"I don't see much respect given around here for the Constitutional right to freedom of the press."

Apparently you haven't looked very hard. We are the media.

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Don't flatter yourself...

99.9% of the posters on the Daily Paul acknowledge that the "mainstream" media is effectively a propaganda outfit and you want us to stop criticizing said propaganda matrix?

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As long as you keep in mind

the Constitutional of the right of a free press, and appreciate it. The press has a right to say they want.

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I will "force" my criticisms upon the "mainstream" media

I'll repeat what I said before:

I have no "respect" for propaganda. That is why I will continue to exercise my First Amendment right to vociferously criticize the propaganda matrix known as the "mainstream" media until truly free and unfiltered media is the norm and the corporate military-industrial government-media is a thing of the past.

And I will "force" my criticisms upon the "mainstream" media by refusing to consume their propaganda, avoiding patronage of their sponsors, supporting alternative media choices like Alex Jones' enterprises, BreakTheMatrix.com, RevolutionBroadcasting.com, etc. and encouraging other liberty-lovers to do the same.

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I thought you were

I thought you were leaving......................>_<

Thanks so much for that post.

Different people have different opinions. I have a very low opinion of Bob Barr. Barr seems like a concieted old guy who represents himself, although I could very well be missing something. I believe people need to take a closer look.

He "kind of" represents the United States Constitution. I especially notice this because I've been an especially strict constitutionalist since 1977.

For quite some time I've observed Robert Barr on C-Span. I like a lot of what he stands for. I just don't think he'd make a good president.

Chuck Baldwin, on the other hand, would be an exceptionally good Chief Executive Officer.

--Cliff, Sioux City, Iowa

I agree with this! I also

I agree with this! I also want a guy who has 0 experience as a polititcian!
I absolutly hate people who have made their living out of "serving the people" ( more like screwing the people). Ron Paul is the only exception to that rule.. he is the only 1 who turned down the congressional retirement, that is way beyond anything any of us will see with SS.

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Divisive, unnecessary nonsense

Let me preface this by saying there are similar threads saying the opposite (promoting Barr) that are also somewhat inappropriate. But they're not ripping candidates, which is in violation of the Forum Posting Guidelines, which state "don't trash other candidates...Keep your focus on the good and the positive and on hope."

Specifically, this thread is bogus. How is Jesse Benton saying that Ron Paul doesn't plan to encourage supporters to back Barr newsworthy? He doesn't plan to do the same for Baldwin, either. Time and time again we've heard that no announcement would be made until St. Paul or later.

This thread distorts the facts to make it look like Paul supports Baldwin but not Barr -- when in fact he supports both.

Then again, I've come to expect this sort of intellectual dishonesty and overall shadiness from Steve Parent.

Take this recent, self-indulgent thread he created to get the title "Dr. Steve Parent resigns from revolution broadcasting" on the front page. How is that relevant to Ron Paul? How is such a thread anything more than an attempt to promote oneself further. And in that thread, Steve Parent takes it further by saying:

The negative attacks on my personal integrity by a very select group of people have also attacked the integrity of www.revolutionbroadcastin... and has become a burden on the radio station and I will no longer allow this to happen.

These same people have made vicious claims against revolution march and some have even tried to encourage you to sue Ron Paul among other things.

I didn't see all the attacks on Steve Parent (just some of them), but some of them seemed to be raising legitimate questions. And I've seen Steve Parent engage in some less-than-savory tactics. These two threads are along that line.

So anyone who has called into question the integrity of Steve Parent is also attacking a radio station and "these same people" are against the march? Some are trying to encourage "you" to sue Ron Paul?

This is how a respectable person responds to criticism? By screaming "vicious character assassination!!!!" and then turning it around by accusing any critic of trying to bring down the movement and even referencing a fringe wacko or two that suggested something asinine like suing Dr. Paul?

Have you no shame, sir?

In your self-promoting thread, you write:

I have said for months that you may not like the people you are working with and they may not like you but we are all supposed to be on the same team and we should all be working together but some just can't do that. Some people that claim to be for this revolution just refuse to work with others even though others have made every attempt to work with them for the better of our cause.

Sometimes you just need to start cutting people loose and actually work with the group of people that will work together and build from there.

Yes, we are supposed to be on the same team. So stop crying foul when you're obviously promoting yourself. Stop attacking other candidates with misleading word-twisting in an attempt to argue that Dr. Paul supports Baldwin but not Barr (and anyone doing the reverse of that should be ashamed, too).

You chide people who "refuse to work with others" and yet you're trying to shrink the pool of support. Unless you plan to be one of those people that needs to be "cut loose," you need a new approach that is less about your ego and pet causes and more about organically growing this movement.

Thank you

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Trust me, I like Chuck Baldwin- BUT- He's pretty Anti-Gay

Trust me, I like the guy, and I do think he is honest and I'd STILL vote for him.

If it came down to Obama, McCain, and Chuck, I would CERTAINLY vote for Chuck Baldwin.

I 'DO' have to say I don't like his stance on homosexuality. I myself happen to be gay. I'm a HUGE Ron Paul supporter.

I don't care if people 'accept' gays, as long as they get out of the way and allow them to live their lives as they choose so long as they don't directly interfere with another person's right to do the same thing.

Since I'm a smart person and would prioritize my 'threats' , and at this point of the game, I see that as a 'small issue.' It can be sorted out later.

I'd still vote for him. (I want to make that clear.)

GO RON PAUL!!!!!!

javan you sound like a person who puts freedom first

I am a fan of Chuck Baldwin's, I am a Christian and I am not homosexual. But if Chuck wasn't in the race and Bob Barr was a gay, atheist who fought for individual freedom..I, like you, would vote for him.

We freedom lovers are a diverse bunch.

ditto that here!

ditto that here!

That is my one drawback with

That is my one drawback with Chuck even though I am not gay...Perhaps he would go into further detail...

He doesnt have to like homosexuality. He does however have to respect the private affairs of citizens. I think it probably comes from being a Pastor. This "sanctity of marriage" nonsense. Marriage is NOT a CHRISTIAN concept. They DO NOT hold a patent on marriage. Marriage happens in every culture, religion. and country. Therfore Christians do not have the right to define what is marriage as a whole. They can however define what is "Marriage in the eyes of God" (their God mind you.) What i find is interesting, is that nobody speaks out against say...2 heteresexual muslem couples getting married or 2 heterosexual Atheists getting married. Is this Marriage in the eyes of The Christian God? I would say it is not. WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE? WHERE IS THE PROTESTS?

Though like you, this is a minor issue when faced with a dying finacial system. Unending, needless, undeclared wars, and the rest of the NWO plan.

So i beleive i will be voting for Chuck. Despite this minor and temporary drawback.

I have to agree with both

I have to agree with both but I'm keeping my vote "up in the air" till Nov. After reading countless Barr threads nd both sides I have ruled him out. But I am still contemplating Chuck.

I agree SGP

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but let us not give the delegates any sign that we are picking alternatives until the time (which I hope does not come) is necessary. I am open to alternatives after the convention, when we are forced to make a decision, until then, I will not waiver in my support of the delegates still working, or Ron Paul. Keep up the great work SGP, but posting this will be like gas on a fire, some on this site will feed on this and take support away from our delegates(still working hard for us) and those on here who are supporting Ron Paul until the convention. I hope we can all remain focused on Ron Paul, unless he is no longer an option.

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