Conceal/carry permits to be REVOKED

I'm a Kali native, born and raised.. San Diego to be exact. Lived in Berkeley for a couple of years. This state is insane!!

We have the illegal invaders living in LA and the washed out radical communists/socialists living in SF. It really is a miserable state. Business is fleeing the European levels of taxation, the governor is selling out to the Statists in the legislature and in the lobby groups, Marxists are emigrating to push their perverse views on us, and good, wholesome citizens are escaping before it's too late.

Luckily for me San Diego has a lot of military (= conservative), so there's still some sanity left.

My advice to myself and to other CA residents? Leave if you can!

Anyone in Texas willing to hire a recently graduated math major?
I'll go hold a sign on some freeway exit, "Will Work for Freedom."

Freedom is not FREE!!

Let it fall in the pacific. Let the socialist, marxist, communist feed off of each other.

wow wow wow NOT.

It's the Communist Republic of Kalifornia. I didn't even know you could get a permit there. But low and behold, after doing some reading, it turns out that if the county sheriff deems you worthy, he could issue you one.

May I carry a concealed firearm in California?

Except in extremely limited circumstances, you may not carry a concealed firearm on your person in public unless you have a valid CCW license. CCW permits are issued only by a county sheriff to residents of the county, or by the head of a city police department to residents of that city.

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/pubfaqs.php

I'm all for open carry without license in every state, but I assumed Cali to be one big no gun zone. I bet it's a lot easier to get one of these "county sheriff issued" numbers in northern cali. ...and equally, I bet that there's no chance in hell of getting one in and around los angeles county.

So Orange County has a problem. Well they need to elect a new sheriff it seems. Or not. Most of those folks in Cali are a different breed. I got kin and friends there, but they are not typical...they're all Texas exports. :-)

And if we are not careful the rest of the country will follow suit.

I lived there, I wouldn't now, and it is only a decent place to visit.

You do have to question yourself if you want to live there. Unless you have loads of cash and don't care about your civil liberties. that state has so many laws and regulations, especially in LA and Orange County..

that there basic law reviews for police officers are probably the size of the IRS tax code.

No wonder they are bankrupt

This will be challenged in court and will eventually be thrown out just as other cases that deal with gun rights typically do. Very similar to Washington DC who banned possession of a weapon even in your own home.. that BS law was over turned as being unconstitutional.

All previous sheriffs were elected.

That was their first mistake.
There should be an emergency referendum put on this year's ballot to restore the sheriff to being an ELECTED office.

Didn't take the "appointee" very long to make her statist tyrannical voice heard, did it?
And whoever appointed her needs to go down in flames in this election, big time.
This needs to be made a major issue in the upcoming elections for the county commissioners, or whatever crack-heads appointed this sheriff.

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Welcome to the police state.

"This is the Titanic, it can't sink."

And now sit back and watch as the wealthy and connected get to keep their licenses, because, you know, uh, they carry, like, uh, more money than the poor (who would have thought) and so, uh, they have a legitimate need, and, like, can afford to hire a lawyer to get past the paper maze, and, uh, can afford the psychological examinations etc., etc.

Especially if they, like, have to drive their, uh, sophisticated European car past a few blocks of these, uh, high risk neighborhoods where, like, all the gangbangers, like, live and stuff. On the way back to their gated communities. It’s like, so dangerous, you know. So they have a legitimate need. They, like said so to a councilwoman when their kid were playing soccer with hers at their, like, private school, you know.

While those who actually live in those horrible gang infested neighborhoods should be happy that their nice Obama supporting, champions of the working class, overlords, do their best to ‘keep guns out of their neighborhoods’. They have to realize they have no legitimate need for them, you know…..

And to those not from California, Orange County is probably one of the _least_ retard infested of all our coastal counties. If it wasn’t for the beaches and the weather, I suspect this state would have something like one or two citizens left. And none of them would be even remotely litterate. Yes, it really is that bad.

Or, if you prefer, "less" -- since the new policy states that if your application is denied, so sad too bad, you forfeit your application fee (per "criteria g")

That's part of Phase One of the approval process. Here are other highlights of Phase One:

They're kind enough to alert you (in "criteria c") that the application WILL include "substantial personal information," which may be "subject to public access under the Public Records act" -- for all I know, that may be a standard boilerplate policy for CCWs in general, but the OC Sheriff wants you to know right away that if you want a CCW, boy, you'd better be ready to have all your personal info out there up for grabs.

Unless, of course, you're one of the privileged: the home address and telephone numbers of any peace officer, magistrate, commissioner or judge contained in any application or license shall NOT be considered public record. So, that's handy for them (not so much for you).

Don't forget, the OC Sheriff's dep't gets to determine whether you are of "good moral character" before considering you worthy of a permit (per "criteria e"), and you must demonstrate "good cause" for the issuance of the license (per "criteria f").

Did I mention "criteria i" which stipulates that three letters of character reference are required as part of the approval process? This is so important, that it's mentioned again later in the policy, with the clarification that no such reference letters may come from relatives.

Did ya make it past Phase One? Goody! Here's some of what awaits you in Phase Two (emphases mine):

(a) "...the applicant shall be scheduled for a personal interview with a Department representative. During this state, there will be further discussion of the applicant's statement of good cause..."

(b) Written statement by a licensed physician (at applicant's cost) of medical fitness

(c) "The Sheriff may require that the applicant be referred to an authorized psychologist used by the Department for psychological testing in order to determine the applicant's suitability for carrying a concealed weapon." Cost for this is borne by the applicant. "If it is determined that the applicant is not a suitable candidate for carrying a concealed weapon, the applicant shall be removed from further consideration."

-- So, that means, if a Department-authorized psychologist decides on his/her own for whatever reason that you're not "suitable" in their view, then your quest for a permit is over.

Let's say you complete both Phase One and Phase Two successfully. That means you get your permit! Right? Right?....

"Once the Sheriff or authorized designee has verified the successful completion of phase two, the license to carry a concealed weapon will either be granted or denied.

Thanks for playing.

Now, if you do get the permit, be advised that the Sheriff reserves the right to inspect any license or licensed weapon at any time. (Thereby eschewing both 2nd and 4th Amendments in one efficient blow.). And carrying any ammunition that has not been inspected and approved by the department's Sergeant or armorer is grounds for revocation.

-- So, each time you purchase your ammo, you're supposed to trot on down to the Sheriff's station to have it (hopefully) pass inspection and receive approval, before you're able to use any of it? Seriously? They think people will do this? And if people don't do this...they lose their permit??

How else might your license get revoked? How about this, under section (d) --

"If the licensee engages in any conduct which involves a lack of good moral character or might otherwise remove the good cause for the original issuance of the license."

The policy fails to define "good moral character" or explain how the lack thereof is to be determined, or by whom. Oh, that wacky, whimsical OC Sheriff's department!

If you want to read the whole policy, here it is. And here's the Sheriff's full announcement of her new CCW policy, straight from the OC Sheriff's blog (where comments are closed).

They're acting like there is no law higher than what ever they want to decree.

I've learned you have a court case if they did not follow proceedure.

ALSO, the latest one to stop these gun grabbers in there tracks is, "THEY CAN BE SUED IF WHAT THEY DO RESULTS IN HARM OR DEATH TO WHOM THEY'VE DISARMED!"

Apparently she hasn't heard about that one yet.............