FDA permits use of irradiation on iceberg lettuce and spinach w/out labels; few to no tests done on safety of irradiated veggies

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FDA to permit irradiation of spinach, lettuce
George Raine, San Francisco Chronicle Staff Writer

Friday, August 22, 2008

(08-21) 19:36 PDT -- Nearly two years after E. coli bacteria traced to California-grown spinach killed three people and sickened 205, the federal government says it will allow producers of fresh iceberg lettuce and spinach to use irradiation to control food-borne pathogens and extend shelf life.

The Food and Drug Administration is amending the food-additive regulations to provide what it calls the safe use of ionizing radiation for just the two leafy greens. The FDA also has received petitions seeking permission to use irradiation for other lettuces and many other foods.

The government is allowing the practice in the wake of the major E. coli outbreak in 2006 and numerous other problems with food safety and recalls. But this won't be first time such a technique has been used on food. Consumers have eaten irradiated meat for years.

Despite some consumer concern, the FDA says irradiation is safe.

"The agency has determined that this action is of a type that does not individually or cumulatively have a significant effect on the human environment," reads the FDA's final rule, released Thursday and effective today.

'Expensive gimmick'
As expected, criticism of the FDA was swift.

Food & Water Watch, a nonprofit consumer rights group that challenges what it calls corporate control and abuse of food and water resources, said that very little testing has been conducted on the safety and wholesomeness of irradiated vegetables. The group also said the action was off target.

"It is unbelievable that the FDA's first action on this issue is to turn to irradiation rather than focus on how to prevent contamination of these crops," said Wenonah Hauter, executive director of Food & Water Watch. "Instead of beefing up its capacity to inspect food facilities or test food for contamination, all the FDA has to offer consumers is an impractical, ineffective and very expensive gimmick like irradiation."

On the industry side, there is little demand for irradiation from California growers and shippers of spinach and iceberg lettuce.

"I think that from a growers' perspective, we have to consider anything that helps us provide safety for consumers, but whether this takes off depends on consumers," said Cathy Enright, vice president for government affairs for Western Growers, which represents growers, packers and shippers of nearly half of the nation's fresh fruits, vegetables and nuts.

"In any marketing decision, we have to look at cost in adapting the technology and consumer acceptance," which will take time to develop, she said.

The petition for the voluntary use of ionizing radiation was filed in 2000 by the Grocery Manufacturers Association. At the time, said Robert Brackett, the group's chief scientist, the grocers wanted permission to use irradiation in the preparation of many foods. However, they amended the petition and asked the government to focus on iceberg lettuce and spinach after the 2006 E. coli outbreak.

The contamination was traced to spinach co-packaged by Dole and Natural Selection Foods in San Juan Bautista (San Benito County). Spinach virtually vanished from grocery stores as demand plummeted.

"That was a big motivation for us," said Brackett, in Washington, D.C.

California producers of leafy greens, in the aftermath of the case of the contaminated spinach, formed a voluntary group called the Leafy Green Marketing Agreement, which developed a food safety protocol for its members - nearly all of the major leafy green producers in California. The approved business practices range from accommodating fieldworker sanitation to preventing animal contamination of leafy green vegetables.

Staved off regulation
The marketing effort also kept the producers steps ahead of attempts at government regulation of the industry.

The marketing group, said its chief executive, Scott Horsfall, was surprised by the government rule announced Thursday, saying, "It's not something we have talked about in the year and a half we have had the marketing agreement in place."

He added, "I do not know anyone clamoring for it. There has to be consumer acceptance. We do not know how big a hurdle that might be. The science needs to be looked at and the cost, too."

Others feel it is a step in the right direction.

The grocers' association's Brackett said, "It's more of a safety net. No matter how good a job you do with preventative steps - good practices, proper sanitation - there is still a small chance for contamination. This takes care of those small chances."

Feral swine
The California spinach was contaminated by feral swine, an investigation later found. Most of the victims were from Wisconsin and Utah. William Marler, a Seattle lawyer representing victims of food-borne illness, is handling lawsuits for 103 families affected by the outbreak. All the suits except four have been resolved, he said Friday.

Marler said the ionizing radiation tool "gives potential consumers more choice." He said most of the E. coli problems in recent years have been with mass-produced, bagged product, "and those products are ripe for using some kill step like irradiation to make it safer."

Marler, along with the Grocery Manufacturing Association, advocates for national food safety oversight regulation and said this week's FDA rule may prompt more of a discussion about that.

"Everyone would have to play by that rule," said Marler.

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I walk further

I walk further and further towards a completely natural and organic diet. It's a tough road for a city guy to walk, especially when eating out or at a friend's house. At least I know that I am cutting my exposure to all this genetically modified, processed, herbicide and pesticide laced, and now irradiated "food". It's been a joy to eat the pure food from my very small but bountiful veggie garden, but it's almost Fall and that will be it for that.

I think that history will show the folly and grave mistakes that are being made in our food system. Eat wisely...

Abolish the FDA

That's the libertarian position.

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I was distressed to see my younger brother's name

mentioned in some of the FDA supporting documentation. I kept telling him that he ought to find honest work.

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I wear a straw hat

To reduce irradiation by the sun.

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Regulation is not the answer

Regulation is never the answer.

Calls like this cause panic and allow people to give away more power to the ever expanding government. Don't give the FDA a reason to grab more control over the food chain.

The free market will handle this if there is enough people who care. Personally, I find that the dangers in irradiating food are far outweighed by the number of food poisoning cases they will prevent.

Irradiation may somewhat alter the tertiary structure of proteins, but it does not destroy the nutrients. That's wrong. It may alter the taste slightly, but there is no evidence to suggest that it is more harmful than simply cooking the food.

Regardless...if there are enough people that are afraid of irradiated spinach, they will constitute a market force and the market will deliver them their desires.

I liken it to this...you don't need to have the FDA listing every pesticide, every fertilizer, and every chemical an apple has ever been exposed to, because it inserts a great deal of cost into that apple.

What you do have is the "organic food" label for an apple that has not been exposed to any of the above. There is a higher cost, due to lower yield and more loss to pests, but people who choose to avoid any contaminants are willing to pay that cost.

I'm not willing to pay the cost, i'm happy to have a cheap apple if a little pesticide was used in growing it. Don't force the artificial costs on me.

If you don't want to buy irradiated food...watch for the soon to come label "non-irradiated food".

If you don't want GMO food...buy "non-GMO" food.

The fact is...most of the market doesn't care.

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jz, what's your profession?

>>Irradiation may somewhat alter the tertiary structure of proteins...
Just like cooking an egg.
Cooking an egg with plutonium. :-)

jz, what's your profession?
You've clearly had some biology and it sounds like you've worked in some part of the food industry. Just curious...

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My profession

I'm educated in biochem...but work in industrial chem.

Never worked in the food industry, unless you count delivering pizza.

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Another scientist!

I'm taking a break from chem right now. I'll take biochem Spring '09.

I felt like indulging myself in math/physics this semester. Eventually, they're just going to give me a degree and kick me out of school with a friendly note:
"I'm sorry, but you've taken every class that we offer. Go someplace else now."

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Biochem was one of my favorites

I loved that class. There's some useless memorization...like you have to be able to draw all of the amino acids and sugars...but much of it was really interesting. Learning how proteins interact is a trip.

I think I aced that class...it was one of the few that I didn't skip on a regular basis.

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all food on space missions is irradiated

...imagine getting food poisoning in space

Irradiating kills the nutrients...

I don't want irradiated food; the bast**ds already killed the benefical qualities of almonds, since most are from California and are now irradiated....look at the rise in cancer, look at all the people dying (at least around here) in their late 40's to early 50's....packaged food is not healthy; irradiated food is not healthy...toxins in our water...I don't use a microwave, either...it changes the molecular structure of the food, rendering it non-beneficial to the body....
I don't know if it's true, I'm going to have to read up more on the subject, but I've been told that they are even going to irradiate organically-grown spinach/lettuce, thus rendering it non-nutritional, as well.......arrrgghhh
Right now, I plan on buying local, fresh produce...from farmers who don't use pesticides...

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Of all the things you just mentioned as unhealthy...

I think it's easy to say that a case of botulism trumps them all.

"The surest poison is time" RW Emerson

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jz

Sounds like you're the perfect voter for the status quo. You would risk the idea of healthy food for all for the ridiculous concept of one person getting botulism. Sounds like you are willing to give up your freedom rights to be "safe." Know any politicians that want that?

Wake up! Have you no clue that Codex compliance is coming with their intentions to irradiate all foods......and be illegal if they weren't! This is how the big companies put all the others out of business as it would make it cost prohibitive for the smaller farms to compete. And the oncologists would love it......,.everyone in America as a patient.

Yes, jz, if you are foolish enough to eat that irradiated apple and think that it is good for you, you are just what the establishment wants as a voter.

Bob W., Naples, FL

Huh?

One person getting botulism? More than 25% of us get food poisoning every year, and it kills more than 5000.

I'm not advocating giving up any freedom...what I am arguing for is the FDA has no business forcing producers to label their foods just to satisfy a vocal minority. I want less government, and the FDA is one branch that has overstepped it's authority over and over again.

I don't want to give up freedom to be safe. You seem to want big brother FDA to protect you from everything concievable, and I want to have the right to buy irradiated steak so I can eat it raw.

Yeah, cancer rates are higher than they were 50 years ago...but only a true fool would assume they know all of the causes involved.

A great example of logic of this type...every person alive drinks water. Every person eventually dies. Therefore, water must be the cause of death...we should ban water.

You want non-irradiated food, it'll be there, but be prepared to pay a premium because most people don't care.

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Oh, I see

So the 5000 that die from botulism is worth trading in the health of every single person and killing them? You need to spend a lot more time checking out the "benefits" of irradiation. Maybe someone else here can connect the dots in your coloring book so that you may actually get a clue someday.

I have an accurate analogy for you: Everyone here reads jz's posts and knows that he knows not of what he speaks. Conclusion: jz is an idiot.

As far as the FDA, they are supposed to be there to protect us. Unfortunately, they do the opposite most times based on money. I don't want them irradiating all of my food so big Ag. can make the biggest of profits.

The FDA is the one that is instituting this policy of allowing irradiation more and more. So, it is rather apparent that you are the one that is promoting the FDA as our saviours. You said that you want the right to eat that poisonous apple. Well, because of your buddies, the FDA, you now have that right. Eat away! If the FDA was really working for the people, they would not allow irradiation. It's not a matter of labeling things or not, they just shouldn't allow it, period! But you just keep trying to twist the truth, jz, and maybe some fool here will actually believe that you know what you talk about. Unfortunately for you, it won't be me. Have another bite of that apple, please.....your doctor will love you.

Bob W., Naples, FL

Do you read your own comments before you post?

"The FDA is supposed to be here to protect us..."

There's the gap in logic. The FDA has no business in protecting us.

We can protect ourselves. I don't want the FDA to exist at all...how in the world you conclude that they are my buddies is beyond me.

Now...please tell me what truth I have twisted.

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Well....

>>Conclusion: jz is an idiot.
Actually, he's been spot on this entire thread.
Which can't be said for you. Did you know that you are being irradiated right now?

Ever have an x-ray? Change the batteries in your smoke detector? Gone tanning?

The worst irradiated food will likely do to you is create trace amounts of an assortment of chemicals in your food. Sure, you might want to know about it, but jz is correct: The odds of you getting an E. Coli infection are much better than an irradiated food item doing you damage.

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It is my understanding that

It is my understanding that irradiation kills the good enzymes and some nutrients that your body needs. Because of that I buy organic food which is not irradiated. I also do not use products like microwaves, which are different, but still zap the food in a way that is not healthy....Whenever we mess with nature, we get ourselves in trouble. Health is not something money can buy. I believe that the majority of non-organic food is irradiated....

You can't kill enzymes

Enzymes are not alive, and thus you can't kill them.

Irradiation will alter enzymes and make a portion of them less usable by your body...but so will baking, microwaving, boiling, frying, etc.

Lots of things aren't healthy...but sometimes you have to pick your battles.

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This isn't a big deal.

This isn't a big deal. Americans have been rather slow to adopt irradiation, but in Europe, they've been doing it for decades.

I haven't seen a lot of 3 headed Germans, have you?

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European organics

Organic foods are widely available at grocery stores in Europe, and at less cost differential than organics in the USA.

We actually went looking for "organic" baby food, couldn't find it, and paid a lot for organic + free range. We learned that baby food in Europe is normally organic so they don't use huge letters on the package to label it that way.

Also, McDonald's is a synonym for "junk food". People don't eat much of the "junk food" in European middle-to-small towns. Though this is changing in the large city centers.

I don't have a problem

JM
with irradiation, unless it is not labled as such. And does this mean that South American countries can use raw sewage for fertilizer if the product is irradiated?

JM

Eeeeww

Irradiation won't kill everything. It will only will kill what is on the surface, and only a certain percentage of that. The idea isn't to have a 100% kill rate. If you can nix 80%, your body will probably handle the other 20%.

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It can

Irradiation can kill everything...you can make something 100% sterile, or you can get rid of the bulk of the organisms, or you can simply slow them down.

All depends on how strong of a irradiation source you use and for how long you use it.

They irradiate most potatoes with a very small dose only to make the eyebuds grow much slower.

You can irradiate raw sewage and make it sterile...but i'm with you...that's really gross.

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Irradiation means....

Irradiation means shining ultraviolet light on the food.
This is not unusual. Lots of food is already processed in this manner. Ever see those weird purple lights in restaurants? That's what is being discussed here.

Ultraviolet light is the lowest grade of ionizing radiation. Bad for the skin. Bad for micro. Almost certainly safe.

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Nope

UV light is far too weak to do anything more than kill some surface bacteria.

You need greater strength to irradiate food. Gamma and X-ray radiation are the most commonly used.

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True...

True, gamma and X would be more effective. But it is also more expensive. You can't emit X-rays with a bulb. It takes a high-current filament like you would find in a actual x-ray machine. The energy and maintenance is not worth it.

Can you find me a link to an x-ray sterilizer?

Here are some commercial irradiation units.
http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&=&q=ultrav...

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They are very expensive

Companies are really not in the practice of selling X ray generating machines to the general public. X ray irradiators are favored by the food industry, but finding an affordable one is impossible.

The UV units you're reading about above do only a little to control microbiological growth.

I have seen some specialty equipment in restaraunt supply catalogues that have small scale X ray irradiators...but I remember these started at about 200K per unit.

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Yeah, I see that....

A poast below cited that they are indeed considering wavelengths shorter than UV.
Wow...

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According to the

According to the FDA:

"During irradiation, foods are exposed briefly to a radiant energy source such as gamma rays or electron beams within a shielded facility."

http://www.fda.gov/opacom/catalog/irradbro.html

I have a vague recollection that nuclear waste could be used to generate the radiation and food irradiation was being pursued by the nuclear waste industry as a means to profitably get rid of some of the waste.