OMG I just watched the NIST webcast on WTC 7
Submitted by anonymusvoice on Sat, 08/23/2008 - 01:39
and you can too here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9137391151102626103&... This is the biggest steaming pile of horseshit I've ever seen. Do these people really believe that anyone is going to buy this? Thermal expansion, yeah wtf ever. Their computer simulation looked like something out of a Roadrunner cartoon. Is it just me or have we all slipped off into the freakin twilight zone...
"And the truth shall set you free"
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Unbelievable
What did they outsource this to to be done in india also or is this a pakistani. Done by computer models hahahaha. I have worked in construction 24 years. This sound just like a home builder using Constructions terms to baffle the homeowner into doing it his way to save money. Even bugs bunny cartoons are not this funny. The guy talks about two girders and says here and here and then he points to two places on the map with his little pointer and he doesn't even look up to see what he was pointing at. I took alot of autocad classes in college and can tell you this isn't even good drafting. The drawings are a joke. A set of Blueprints that are done by an architect for even a house can be up to 30 pages and every type of connection in the house has it's own detail and some time it requires three views for one detail. The amount of drawing it would take to even make a dent in investigating this huge structure would have been enormous. I'm not talking about science here I'm talking about the skills of drawing and the skills of construction here. The guy just claimed they took every piece of the building and reconstructed it. This would require having every piece of the building. If he means the went off the blue print and redrew it in 3D that is different than reconstructin. That would be redrawing the plans from the original print. Those are two diffrent things. Reconstruction would require you to draw every piece of the building you found in its damage condition and working backwards to show how you would go from where they ended up back into the building before the accident. It would be a virtual reverse explosion. To do this would be so expensive and take so many manhours it wouldn't be funny. The labor cost on that would probably be as much as the labor cost it took to actually build the building. Architects are not cheap labor is. Plus the time to find each piece and documenting where it was found and recording it on a grid much like an archaeology dig. The cost of this would be unbelievable and would require years of time with the site being preserved every sec of the day and night. Every peice of the building would have to be accounted for. Not to mention you would have to sort out and divide all items from the other buildings that fell. Now we have just reached bizzaro world. So it is not reconstructed it is redrawn. like i said two diffrent things. And then as if that isn't enough he says they used computer models and they lite it on fire and let it burn hahahaha now that is the funniest thing I ever heard. They lite a virtual fire in a drawing and it simulated the fire and it took time in the computer for it to do its burning. Like they all stood around and waited the 20 whatever hours to let it get done burning. Like they were waiting on a cup of coffee to be warmed up in the microwave. I mean this is rediculous. Then he throwss out the word very powerful computers as if that helps. Well if they where very powerful they would have got the results in like a couple of sec. That is the beauty of the computer you don't have to wait in real time to get your results. Now I'm wondering if the guy even knows how to turn a computer on. I watched about 4 min of it and I can read he is full of it. I could not watch any more of it is is just to retarded. The worst part is these people have all our old jobs. unfreakinbelievable!
Dr. Wyndham proving that the official story is garbage
http://911blogger.com/node/17578
Print it out and send copies to all your friends and relatives.
"The body is but a vessel for the soul,
A puppet which bends to the soul's tyranny.
And lo, the body is not eternal,
For it must feed on the flesh of others,
Lest it return to the dust whence it came.
Therefore the soul deceives and despises."
Sometimes the best way to hide something is in plain sight.
My first introduction to the concept of "false flag operations" was when the MSM reported on the arrest of two British guys in post-invasion Iraq.
They were dressed as Arabs, armed to the teeth and drove a truck full of explosives. British special forces busted them out of Iraqi police cells. Here is the MSM spin on it:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article5689...
So basically, thousands of civilians are being deliberately murdered in Iraq by "black-ops" soldiers. And of course, it is all being blamed on "terrorists".
What better way to set Sunni and Shia at each others throats?
Until very recently, I had never REALLY looked at the WTC destruction footage. I understood that the US political class had made capital out of the attacks in the manner of the Nazi Reichstag fire. But I could not get my head around the concept that they had deliberately engineered them.
How could they hide something in plain sight?
Pretty well, it seems...
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You know I used to love the Coyote
in those road runner cartoons. Until I was old enough at around 4 to realize he was being stupid trying to catch a Roadrunner with all those contraptions when he had all the money he needed to buy food.
Kinda Like the NIST is being stupid trying to make us believe that steel can magically vaporize and crumble to nothing because of office fires.
Most 4 year olds see it for what it is.. Demolition.
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*laughing*
Yeah, you're right. I'm pretty sure if you showed video of the World Trade Center buildings collapsing to a 4 year old and then asked them what happened, they would probably say;
"They exploded."
Nice perspective.
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
Ron Paul's Convention Speech
But what are they covering up?
All you dudes keep saying they are covering up the truth...but what exactly are they covering up?
You don't know.
It might be something that the people can't handle.
Imagine if they said, "We pre-install explosives in tall important buildings in case they get bombed or hit with planes. That way we can pull them down before they fall on other buildings."
If they said that people would flip out. "You mean I've been working in buidlings with explosives! I'll sue for emotional distress!"
And people that work in other government buildings "I might be working in a building rigged with explosives! I'll sue for emotional distress!"
There would be strings of massive lawsuits. Better to just lie and bend the truth...the beams did fail to heat (just explosvie, not plane fire).
And there are other benevolent reasons they would cover up the truth...come on, be creative, think of some more.
But the ol' "THEY ARE LYING!" is getting old. Yes. They are lying. I hereby make it official. So?
OKC Bombing
ALSO had explosive devices INSIDE of it. Check out some of the articles from it, having many of the Firemen saying that there was controlled demo explosives inside the building as well. BUT THAT building had no chance on falling on another.
Put a firecracker in the palm of your hand, light it, it explodes and burns your hand.
Same scenario, now close your fingers in a fist around the firecracker, Now you just lost your fingers..
Catch the drift.
911truthers should examine the okc bombing as well. TONS of holes in the official story.
Freedom may be worth searching for.
Remember, Dont battle the govt with guns(ALONE), Beat them in court, in state legislature, or hire Ron Paul for president.
Freedom may be worth searching for.
Remember, Dont battle the govt with guns(ALONE), Beat them in court, in state legislature, or hire Ron Paul for president.
The Poll is rigged too :(
I just had 6 of my friends on Facebook take the poll and they all got the exact same numbers as I did and the total of participants didn't change at all. My guess is that they didn't like the results and shut it off before it got embarrasing.
http://news.aol.com/article/feds-say-theyve-solved-911-myste...
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who was taht creepy dude at the beginning and end?
little wet behind the ears, can we say?
could anyone else read the worry on these peoples faces?
holy shit!
watch their hands.
I agree...
it had "1984" written all over it......or V for vendetta....scary,
lock and load people. I will be at the rally and ronstock. I have penace to pay for voting for Bush twice!
" the important thing is to never stop questioning, curiousity, has it's own reason for existing..
Albert Einstien
Knowledge is power, action is love.
did you say twice?
wow.
Did he say
he represents NIST or myths?
cold is a relative term.
heat exists in everything. there are only 2 kinds of heat, sensible and latent. there are 3 methods of heat transfer. conduction, convection an radiation.
temperature is the measurement of the concentration of the heat. british thermal units [BTU's] is a measurement of the qauntity.
things expand when they get hot and contract when they cool. this is well known and is the reason you hit those bumps going over bridges. [expansion joints] to suggest that there was not enough room for thermal expansion would be a design flaw. it would probably disallow the building to sway in the wind.
yes, I can see how this will piss off ALL engineers. [worth thier salt anyhow....]
" the important thing is to never stop questioning, curiousity, has it's own reason for existing..
Albert Einstien
Knowledge is power, action is love.
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If this guy studied WT7 for three years and comes up with this crap, then the only real question is, what do they have on him that would turn him into such a liar? I mean, do you think his weakness is little boys? or little girls? to be blunt.
MrTom
Man, who was that idiot in the blue shirt?
It was really embarassing watching him try to argue his fantasies against a professional engineer.
-jcr
"The problem with trying to child-proof the world, is that it makes people neglect the far more important task of world-proofing the child." -- Hugh Daniel
Something else that bothers me...
The 'expert' stated that no buildings were designed to handle an impact of an airplane.
The twin towers were built for this!
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Here is a poll that just came out
Aol News Is asking............
Do you believe that fire brought down world trade center 7 ?
Next to that poll they ask.............
Do you think Federal Officials are hiding anything about the 911 attacks ?
I'm sure you all know how I voted :)
http://news.aol.com/article/feds-say-theyve-solved-911-myste...
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Did you notice the item at
Did you notice the item at the top right of that AOL page?
"It's never a subtle moment with Madonna as a video montage from her tour lumps McCain in with Hitler."
LOL!!
I decided not to participate in that poll.
OMG!!! I think I've become a paranoid, tin foil hat-wearing, truther-kook!
I got a creepy feeling of "who wants to know what I think about WTC 7 and why?".
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(Better) to be confused in the search for truth than fully confident and sound asleep in a dream of lies.
-Michael Nystrom
...let it not be said that we did nothing.
-Ron Paul
You don't have to state your name or even your e-mail address ?
Why would you be worried ? They can't track you by clicking an answer.
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They'll have your IP
They'll have your IP address. What else do they need?
Things are only impossible until they are not.
-- Jean Luc Picard
Things are only impossible until they are not.
-- Jean Luc Picard
my neighbor
You sound like my neighbor who has a concealed carry permit. He won't donate to gunowners.org because he "doesn't want the government to know about me".
Uhh, you already submitted to fingerprint and background check as part of the permit process.
http://FlipFlopRomney.blogspot.com
they have it anyway, fool...
what? not participating in a poll is gunna keep your ass outta fema camps now?
So this is what this country has come too ?
People afraid to exercise their freedom of opinion for fear that they will be put on a list ? Welcome to Nazi Germany people . It's true the Fake " War on Terror" has made us "the United Slaves Of America"
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It was a joke, bro.
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(Better) to be confused in the search for truth than fully confident and sound asleep in a dream of lies.
-Michael Nystrom
...let it not be said that we did nothing.
-Ron Paul
ok
i got to about fifteen or twenty minutes into it and couldn't handle that shit any more......what a fucking......no.....i mean what a FUCKING JOKE.
NIST computer modeling - with all OUR money - couldn't even produce a simulation that came remotely close to looking like the real deal.
too slow, and it didn't complete the structural failure.
i agree with someone else's post below.......
these people call themselves professionals.
just go fucking hang your heads in shame.
what a sack of crap.
i need a beer.
This is a good thing
This whole thing actually did more for the cause than to deter it.
I was listening to Richard Gage yesterday and he was saying that the insults that NIST has perpetrated on the American people is now intolerable. They have regrouped and are now adding many more venues to they seminars . If you go to http://www.ae911truth.org/ you can listen to the rebuttal of the NIST findings. All they managed to do was to make more engineers who have been waiting for answers very angry. they have almost 500 accreditted engineers on this now and they expect many more to start coming forward after this rediculous insult.
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you
fuckin A right yo!!!!!!
Good
Wantin' to see that, afraid it was gonna pass me by.
correction: wantin' to hear it.
WOW, we can finally put this matter to rest
National Institute of Standards and Technology. Should stand for National Institute of Stupid Theories. The sad thing is people will believe it.