Isn't The Stock Market Extremely Volatile Lately?
Submitted by yuengling on Mon, 08/25/2008 - 13:27
today the dow is down 214.pts last time I checked. It seems like for the last month there's been dozens of triple digit moves in either direction at least once a week. Isn't this highly unusual. I always remember driving home and hearing "Dow up 10, 15.60" but not 214 or up 100!
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Two points:
First, a lot of people are on holiday in August and the thin volume promotes more exagerated moves up and down than there would be during heavy trading.
So don't get too exited about triple-digit moves that you hear about on the radio while driving home. Following "up-n-down economics," as Krugman refers to it, is not a particularly productive pastime.
Second, and more importantly, as the following excerpt from Gold Does Not Have Intrinsic Value, www.axiomaticeconomics.com/golden-calf.php, suggests, Bernanke's decision to pollute the Fed's portfolio has made the question of hyperinflation "murky." A lot of people, including the one's driving those triple-digit moves, are really in the dark.
As the saying goes, "It is better to light a candle than to jump every time someone stumbling in the dark stubs his toe and lets out with a yelp" - or something like that.
Excerpt: Is the collapse of the dollar inevitable?
In my Critique of Mathematically Perfected Economy, www.axiomaticeconomics.com/perfected_economy.php, I write:
“The basic flaw in the logic of modern socialists (Montagne , Cook , Zarlenga , etc.) is confusion between motivation and capability. ‘He’s privately controlled!’ the socialist sneers at the Federal Reserve chairman, the unspoken assumption being that, were the socialist put in charge, he would immediately open the floodgates of wealth and prosperity for us all. It would be a veritable socialistic paradise, if only the Benevolent One were given the authority to print money! But, the fact is, the Fed is in a box. If a socialist were put in charge, he would be in the same box.”
In my Critique of Austrian Economics, www.axiomaticeconomics.com/critiques.php, I write:
“Rothbard discusses an inevitable ‘distortion-reversion process’ but says little about how it actually plays out. Apparently forgetting his master’s regression theorem, he declares ‘the continuance of confidence in the banks is something of a psychological marvel’ (1970, p. 867).
“Garrison (2001, p. 44) redefines the Production Possibilities Frontier, PPF, to be sustainable combinations of investment and consumption, but says nothing about what is so unsustainable about a credit expansion. Since he defines consumption on the PPF (which is real) to be the same as consumption on the Hayekian triangle (which is nominal), the unsustainability cannot have anything to do with a devaluation of the currency.
“So we see that Mises, writing in 1949, was really the last Austrian to make much of an effort to explain or predict interest rate spikes. After that, their discussion of this issue, including Mises’ later writings, increasingly took on the tone of a morality play, with the greedy bankers getting their ‘inevitable’ comeuppance.”
Clearly, the socialists and the Austrians are at opposite ends of the spectrum of views on inevitability. Socialists believe that the Federal Reserve can turn on a dime, veering away from economic collapse towards a socialistic paradise simply by giving the right person the chairmanship. And how would the Benevolent One accomplish this feat? According to the Debt Virus Theory, it is as simple as printing money and spending it directly into the economy, rather than buying Treasury Bills. On the other hand, the Austrians believe that a “distortion-reversion process” is inevitable. Credit expansion is unsustainable and this, apparently, is true no matter how benevolent the chairman of the Fed may be.
Is hyperinflation the inevitable result of inflation? In America we have only had one bout with hyperinflation and, over 200 years later, the phrase “not worth a Continental” is still part of our language. “In conclusion,” I write in my Critique of Mathematically Perfected Economy, “to Montagne, Cook, Zarlenga and anyone else who claims that they can open the floodgates of prosperity by spending paper money directly into the economy, I say: ‘The Debt Virus Theory is not worth a Continental!’” Debt Virus Theorists’ followers are mostly laymen (for obvious reasons) and, when I wrote this, I fully expected any American with a passing interest in economics to be familiar with the expression, “not worth a Continental.”
Indeed, the collapse of the Continental was inevitable because, having spent Continentals directly into the economy (mostly for soldiers’ wages), the Continental Congress had nothing in their portfolio with which they could buy them back. They were, in fact, benevolent men who had no desire to see their newly-won nation racked with hyperinflation, but they could no more recall the paper money that they had printed than Frankenstein could recall his monster.
But surely the Federal Reserve is smarter than the Continental Congress! Until as recently as last year (2007), I would have responded to this question with a begrudging “yes.” As much as I dislike the United States having a central bank (I advocate free banking), I will admit that, by buying only Treasury Bills, the Federal Reserve has given themselves a portfolio with which they can buy back dollars in the event that inflation should threaten to turn into hyperinflation. Unless the Federal Government itself collapses – by losing a war, for instance – there will always be a market for T-Bills. Selling T-Bills for cash and destroying the cash is a painful, recession-inducing process, as evidenced by our experience during Reagan’s first term, but it can be done. Contra Rothbard, hyperinflation is not inevitable under a central bank.
So what has Ben Bernanke done to make me question his intelligence, if not his benevolence? He polluted the Fed’s portfolio with AAA-rated securities, which I have mocked as being “about as marketable as the chocolate-covered cotton balls that Milo Minderbinder was trying to foist on people in Catch 22.” Everybody knows that, in spite of their impressive-sounding AAA rating, these securities are really just packages of sub-prime loans that nobody wants – what I defined in my Devil’s Dictionary of Economics, www.axiomaticeconomics.com/devils_dictionary.php, as “worthless crap.” If people wanted them, in the sense of being willing to pay cash for them, then we wouldn’t be having a credit crisis in the first place.
Bernanke’s actions have made the question of hyperinflation a murky one. The Austrian’s depiction of hyperinflation as being the inevitable fate of central banking has always been cartoonishly simplistic, and it remains so. However, economists of all schools must now admit that hyperinflation is at least a possibility. If the dollar appears to be losing its status as the world’s reserve currency, what will the Fed do about it? Sell their AAA-rated securities for cash and destroy the cash? But what if nobody is impressed with the AAA rating and won’t buy their securities at any price? Then the Fed will be in the same position as the Continental Congress - benevolent men who have no desire to see their beloved nation racked with hyperinflation, but who have no more ability to recall the paper money that they have printed than Frankenstein had to recall his monster.
Of course, not all of the Fed’s portfolio is in AAA-rated securities and not everything with an AAA rating is worthless crap. They still have lots of T-Bills and there is a market for at least some of their AAA-rated securities. This is why the question of hyperinflation has become so murky. The bottom line is that nobody – not even Ben Bernanke – really knows what the Fed’s portfolio is worth these days. For this reason, I would be very leery of any economist, from any school, who speaks confidently about the future of the dollar. Is the collapse of the dollar inevitable, as the Austrians claim? Or are we at the dawn of a socialistic paradise, provided only that we install the Benevolent One in the Federal Reserve’s chair, as the Debt Virus Theorists claim? The answer is certainly somewhere between these extremes, but where exactly I cannot tell you.
Source: www.axiomaticeconomics.com/golden_calf.php
References
Garrison, Roger. 2001. Time and Money: The Macroeconomics of Capital Structure. New York, NY: Routledge
Rothbard, Murray N. [1962] 1970. Man, Economy and State. Los Angeles, CA: Nash Publishing
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No way
We are in "Bear territory" this is very "Usual" , 200's ups or downs in a day are "expected", just like a rollercoaster: No "Problems" just "Keep consuming"---> Borrow Borrow Borrow --> Spend Spend Spend
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Oh yes! Here's why...
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no, not at all
Everything is FINE! Just fine. Stop worrying so much. Just invest your money in the stock market and forget about. Down the road when you are ready to retire, you will be RICH!
Hope you are kidding.
"Evil flourishes when good men do nothing."
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Hahahahaha
Yes. Not very funny, really. But I think it is important to at least TRY and find humor in the collapse of world civilization as we have known it.
I think the stock market is trying to crash but the manipulators at the banks and the PPT are trying to hold it up. They will fail. It will crash.
Prepare for the coming age of austerity.
Look at the McCain and Obama polls
The market has been reflecting the presidential polling. If prospects for McCain go up, the market goes up, and vice versa. An Obama presidency is seen as much worse for the economy. There would be a Democratic Congress and President, which means there nothing to stop them from doing whatever they want they want with the economy, which is increases taxes, regulations, minimum wages, and welfare.
If Biden is seen as good for Obama, that would be bad for the market.
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Don't blame me if there's no voice for liberty opposing McCain and Obama in the Presidential debates. I donated to Ron Paul Libertarian, Bob Barr's campaign.