*McCain/Palin = Liberty Ticket?*
Submitted by legalizeliberty on Sat, 08/30/2008 - 17:33
Lets think outside of the box.
Remember in 2000 McCain was stabbed in the back by Bush neo-cons during elections.
And yesterday McCain on his 72 birthday stabbed in the back neo-cons by selecting pro Liberty candidate.(bypassing two Zionist front runners for the job)
Sarah Palin is one of us.
Just do some research.
Perhaps start with after selection thoughts by Pat Buchanan.
Wikipedia her.
I have a feeling McCain was/had to play the game
playing himself as a warmonger neo-con otherwise he would have no chance.
This post is to spring exchange of views and research into the matter.
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McCain
seems to be a dyed-in-the-wool militarist. Don't think he is even able to play a game. It was a smart move to nominate Palin, but no indication of him changing his policy. Don't forget Palin supports the war in Iraq.
It's all too much of a speculation, legalize!
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Good Point, frankly you'd get more personal freedom under Obama
Then Palin.
She's not a Fiscal Conservative; desptie her campaigns to claim so. Her budget fiascos as mayor and governor of Alaska and Wasville show this quite clearly.
She's not for personal freedoms; she opposes marijuana use even when she admits to having used it before and has blocked gambling bills several times.
She's just more of the same.
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Are you a Obama fan?
You have been here for a short time.
gigione
I'm a long time RP supporter
I'm just analysing two evils.
I was more active on the ron paul forums then on daily paul. But they banned me for being pro-choice instead of pro-life.
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Thinking outside the box;
It could be a small victory for us...researching her, she has simular principles except foreign policy. Looking at her record as governor is impressive, fighting the corruption. She has a 80% approval rating in her state. She has a savings acct for the tax payers in the state. Frankly this could be the start of the right direction. I bet she is a Ron Paul closet fan and decided to take the nomination to help turn this country around.
gigione
Ok ignore the evidence
That I continue to post that points to her only being a part of the corruption.
Go on championing her being some kind of "Corruption fighters" despite originally supporting the bridge to nowhere; the biggest budget in history of her state; and millions of dollars of subsidies to NON AMERICAN companies.
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So you are suggesting that mccain has been playing the GOP?
He's been stringing them along by acting like a bush psychotic all this time knowing that in the end he would turn the tables and do the right thing ?
If only that were true but hey the world is pretty twisted right now. Maybe it would take the ultimate political deception to win the neo-con seal of approval.
Nahh it's too far fetched.
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You write
a lot like DaddyWarbucks. You use nouns as adjectives in your name-calling and use similar phrasing in points that you two have shared, except you are more succinct.
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Wow, what are you
smokin'. There is outside the box and there is wearing the box. LOL Peace
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Bob Barr fan now a fan of McCain, because of Palin.
Gee, who'd a thunk it. What a surprise. (sarcasm)
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That's not really a fair
That's not really a fair criticism. There are plenty of Barrites (me being one) who are not jumping on the McCain bandwagon.
We're going through a dry spell because a lot of the hardcore Paulites are off to go to the Rally. Don't let the bandwagoners mislead you.
I don't feel that McCain stood up to the Neocons.
I believe he is a Neocon, and the Neocons are just using a good person to further the Neocon agenda. There is too much at stake here and the Neocons would not leave the decision up to McInsane. Hey, Palin ain't no saint but a lot of Liberty minded people like her. But, in the end, she is too new, too naive, to stick to her guns, and will be assimilated.
But, if by some miracle McCain wins, then we could send Palin messages to sway her by appealing to her integrity.
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No way!! If she is McCain's
No way!! If she is McCain's VP then she is bought her integrity is no longer of use. Think about it..if you sign up with the Mafia and do work with them you don't get to decide to just quit and do the right thing without consequences. She has a family and she will not endanger them. Why are Ron Paul people so Naive!? Show them a nice ass and they're peeing all over themselves saying "Oh well we'll change her back to the good anti-war (oops that's right she's not anti-war) hockey mom with integrity when we explain to her WHY she should be." I don't disagree with her naivete but that doesn't negate her being owned and if she doesn't realize this now she will later! Wake up Paulites. I can take this from the neo-cons but not you guys you have brains.
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McCain/Palin = War Party Turd Sandwich
Obama/Biden = War Party Giant Douche
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yes
but what if?
What if McCain being very very old wants to smash neo-cons with Sarah?
People in politics tend to be good actors.
What if McCain was just playing being a warmonger.
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Here's a thought
to ponder.McCain is a certified CFR insider,that pretty much nulifies anything good coming out of his administration.There will be no going against the establishment because he is the establishment.This was just a clever ploy to make him look more appealing to women voters,and Ron Paul supporters.This is still the same McCain that was knee deep in the Keating 5,and that said he would rather have clean Government than anyones 1st Amendment rights.The same McCain that sang "Bomb Iran",the same McCain that got a tag in Vietnam called "Songbird".Whatever Palin is,McCain's spots haven't changed.
There was a relatively interview with Ron Paul
where he said that McCain is probably just blustering and would likely not attack Iran. In that interview he said that's why he would be probably a better than Obama, when you take into account Obamas socialist-type economics stance.
It might have been the Gary Null show in July 26.
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I have heard ron paul on
I have heard ron paul on numerous occasions say that Obama would possibly be a better pick that McCain on foreign policy. I have NO idea what you are talking about here. If you could, please provide a link if you find it. Thanks!
Also if you look at the most recent CNN interview
Paul says McCain's and Obama's foreign policy is "exactly the same."
So if that's true then obviously his position would be that McCain would be the better choice if he's closer to him in economic policy than Obama is.
Note that Obama's foreign policy has become more aggressive lately.
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ronpaulaudio.com is not providing links anymore
I've been looking for it but havent been able to find it.
It makes sense though, politically. If the Democrats have the Congress, and McCain was President they would fight very much against an attack on Iran. But if Obama was president, they would tend to support an attack if he wanted. If it's a Republican war, Republicans support and Democrats oppose it. If it's a Democrat war, the Democrats support it and the Republicans oppose it.
Together with his less socialist economics and that McCain would probably not be able to get away with an attack on Iran, so he would be the better choice for president among the two. I think this was genearlly Paul's reasoning in the interview.
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Except you forget its not in congresses hands anymore
The excutive power has been given power to wage war under his own decision. He doesn't have to talk to congress. Thats what the IWR did.
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But still
the Congress can still raise a lot of hell and make it a politically unwise move.
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Sarah Palin is NOT one of us.
She doesn't even support legal marijuana. She knows nothing about world or national events and only cares about Alaska.
Her husban works for BP the biggest oil company in alaska. She's in the pocket of big oil.
The pick wasn't made by McCain it was made by Rove; because he knew that McCain would loose and he didn't want his loss taking down any experienced candidates. So he choose the least possible VP choice ever. The least experienced one. One with so much controversy and corruption in her background she's gonna be torn apart.
This is nothing more than what the neocons wanted. And you kid yourself if you think otherwise.
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Big oil?
Can you explain why you would be against "big oil?"
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Because it lays in bed with goverment everday
Buying off presidential, senatorial, congressional candidates. Getting laws passed that step on the rights of everyday citizens to benefit itself. Spending more money than any other business on lobying. Being the main cause of the Iraq War.
What more do you want me to say?
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He wants you to praise big,
He wants you to praise big, rich multinational corporations that screw the American citizen, and receive massive government subsidies and corporate welfare at taxpayers' expense.
Because to a Bob Barr Libertarian, that's what's considered 'free market capitalism'.
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Buying them off in what way?
For tax cuts? For freedom of business? What do you mean?
Can you prove they were the cause of the Iraq War or is this just as an assumption?
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