Anyone else noticed a pattern here??

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I have noticed an interesting pattern among certain member's posts here on the DP, and thought I'd see if anyone else has any thoughts about this. I believe that the neocon / McCain camp is employing bloggers to spread confusion and disinformation, and to attempt to influence and decieve the newer (or more gullible) Ron Paul Revolutionaries. The most recent episode of this is the push to engender support for Palin (and of course McCain by default), especially by the most prominent of these 'trolls', bedr1. As an example, here are just a few of the headlines of posts authored by 'bedr1' over the last couple of days, which try to capatilize on McCain's slick move with Palin. When you look at the big picture here, can there be ANY doubt that 'trolls' are here, and that they work for the neocons.

"CNN Interview: Ron Paul says he Likes Sarah Palin"

"Sarah Palin against the Real ID act"

"Palin says Iraq war not worth fighting for if its about oil"

"Palin for President!!"

"Sarah Palin Was Pat Buchanan's 1996 Alaska State Coordinator - I knew I liked her : watch video"

"My First reaction to Sarah Palin - She's Good!"

"Some interesting links to Ron Paul supporters last summer on why Palin would make a great VP for Dr. Paul"

It reminds me of the approach that the same 'member(s)' have been using for pushing Bob Barr. Here's some more from "bedr1"

"Bob Barr on Glenn Beck tonight at 7pm EST"

"Ron Paul will vote for Bob Barr for President on the Texas ballot and here is why "

"Non Ron Paul website touting Open Gop Convention & Poll Please write in Barr or Baldwin"

"08/15/08 NEW ZOGBY Poll 55% of Americans want Bob Barr in Debates - Barr still at 6% Nationally"

OR, here's another example of an attempt by 'bedr1" to subtly attack a great, effective educational program:

"Is DVDfordelegates.com a scam? "

There are several user names currently being employed by these disinformation agents, the newest of which is "RonBarr" (a member for less than a day..... come on!) who post things like:
"9/11 inside job" people had to taint the most important rally."

I did a little poking around using the 'tracking' feature, and found that several user-names consistantly appear together on posts of this nature. "Preferred", "JFEJ004", "RonBarr", bedr1, etc. One thing I found interesting is that most of these 'usernames' DON'T have the 'Contact' feature enabled, which would allow them to be contacted directly. That seems suspicious in itself, as well as the habit of constantly changing usernames, using multiple usernames, etc. Another thing that jumped out at me was that 'bedr1' usually sets up the posts, and then somehow, as if by a miracle, JFEJ004 shows up almost instantly to 'second' the message of the post, when in fact, it's the same guy just proping himself up.

The neocons are smart, and they use deception, half-truths, diversionary tactics, and division to accomplish their goal of weakening the freedom movement. What they do is to put people out there that SEEM like they are in line with Dr. Paul's message (like Bob Barr and Palin) who might come just close enough to convince people that, well, they might not be so bad after all (and hope that we overlook that Barr voted for the patriot act, and that Palin couldn't possibly be what we're looking for either, by the very act of accepting the spot as McCain's running mate).

These 'trolls' also regularly attack issues that are crucial to the success of the Revolution, such as 'DVD's for Delegates', the pursuit of 9/11 truth, and the impeachment of Bush/Cheney. It seems that when we are sniffing around sensitive and effective areas of inquiry that the neocons want to diffuse and/or keep hidden, they send in the disinfo trolls in droves.

I post this to try to give a little bit better 'big picture' view when it comes to these guys. I defend the right to free speech, and don't expect everyone to agree on everything, but I also think that when certain people are sent here by the 'enemy' expressly to deceive, divide, and distract, that it deserves a response. On a positive note, it also shows that we have them worried, otherwise they wouldn't have 'trolls' on their payroll. We need to keep the pressure on, think for ourselves, and not fall into their traps of half-truths and confusion.

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You're right, Doc...

...for a while there, I started to feel cranky every time I came to this site...Bob Barr this, Bob Barr that....and now the bullshit topic has switched. The purpose of this site is two-fold: 1. Get our man in the Oval Office. and 2. Get more and more people like him in Congress.
I guess the other purpose here is for like-minded Freedom Lovers to say what's on their minds, to vent, to help another with a problem in educating others, alerting others to news and events that we wouldn't otherwise be privey to...national and world events.
Don't let instigators like RonBarr poop in your oatmeal...keep your eye on the prize, buy ammo, buy canned food and prepare for the worst. If you don't need it...if the paranoids here are wrong...then no big deal, you've got some supplies you'll use anyway. But, what if they're right?
Keep da' faith, brutha's!!

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Trolls mostly being a nuisance

trying to provoke and cause dissent.. they are best at the nr 5 top slogan of the U.N.

5. Raising pointless squabbling to an art form

http://tizona.wordpress.com/2008/08/02/top-10-un-slogans/

Best not to feed them with your energy!

Same old crap.

Different day.

Been going on for the better part of a year now.
Sad to say I'm almost getting used to it.
Now I make it a game to see how fast I can spot the new screen name of an old troll that's coming back for another try at it with a new name.

I've been seeing this for a

I've been seeing this for a while. The names change but the tactics stay the same. Cause infighting, divert us whatever it takes.

The thing is, it only does so much. We will defeat them and their bosses.
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Many of us are aware of this

Many of us are aware of this and you did a great job in your research and we all thank you, well most of us do.

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I agree with everything

except the part where you say that neo-cons are smart.Neo-cons are just grown up representations of those who used to siddle around the school yards pulling the wings off of flies and starting fights with kids that they knew could never defend themselves. They are mindless bullies. All My life I've defended those who got abused by these bullies even back in school I found that that was my calling. It just seemed right .

There is nothing you can do about trolls in here. I just treat them like the children they are. I ignore them until I have to strike. just like Russia is doing with Bush the biggest bully in the world.

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Precisely the reason I stopped coming here

This is some paranoid bullshit that won't help anyone do anything. Infighting crazies are the reason I left the dailypaul so long ago and I see it hasn't gotten any better.

"People should not be afraid of their governments; governments should be afraid of their people." - V for Vendetta

seriously

They are young kids with good intentions. Then they got scammed by a bunch of bottom feeders. We need to bring then back into the fold...no hard feelings....just learn a life lesson and let's move on together. Peace!!!

So you know these 'young

So you know these 'young kids' persoally? You know who they are? We'd all like to learn that information so that we can help 'bring them back into the fold'. Really now...seems a little suspect to me, bedr1.... oh, I meant 'El-Buggo'.

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Truth is treason in an empire of lies.

So would it be better to let

So would it be better to let these guys try to spread their trash and do their damage without calling them out on it? Maybe we should've invited McCain to the RFR as a keynote speaker.... that would make about as much sense as putting up with these trolls and their crap.

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Truth is treason in an empire of lies.

You are right, I think...

...and those of us who come here daily are on to them/him...generally not long after they log in the first time with their new persona. I have been tempted a few times to reply, "You again"? to their very first response, but have thus far refrained just in case I am wrong. However, thus far, I have been right...within a few hours or days, they have proven who they are...

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Yes I have noticed this too.

The preferable thing would be for people to ignore them. They can try to stir us up and divide us, but we can keep them from doing that by not responding. I haven't even clicked on the ""9/11 inside job" people had to taint the most important rally." post today because I can tell by the title that it's not worth it and is probably written by a troll. But unfortunately 265 comments have been made on it so here it sits all day long.

I agree that some people are

I agree that some people are attempting to make Palin more palatable by making it look like she is some kind of stealth Libertarian/Ron Paul Republican.

Nice try.

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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore

If you can find some kind of pattern,

more power to you. But you're going to drive yourself crazy. I'm not affiliated with or organizing with anyone. You're just engaging in obssessive paranoid-like thinking.

And what happens when you discover "the pattern?" Nothing.

Save yourself the trouble.

And oh yeah, since I'm saying this then I must be part of the conspiracy. I'm trying to throw you off track right?

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for sure man

The pattern they should be looking for are scam artists trying to con them. It always hurts when you get scammed...but don't feel bad. Guys like Steve Parent and Jdayh are very good at what they do. They have been scamming people for years....they are masters at their trade. But don't hate those of us here with more experience. We are just trying to help you. It is amazing that neither will confront me....because they know I have all the documentation to take them down. Anyway...chin up...

Took you longer than usual

Took you longer than usual to come up with a diversonary / divisive ploy there, RonBarr.... uh, I mean "El-Buggo".......

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Truth is treason in an empire of lies.

I am

I am honestly just trying to help you kids out....

Part of it could be your name

what does RonBarr mean? Isn't it more accurate to use BobBarr?

It means

I'm half Ron Paul and half Bob Barr. The right hemisphere of my brain is Ron Paul, and the left hemisphere is Bob Barr.

I'm even clean shaven on the right side above my lip, and mustached on the left side.

And when you talk to me you never know which side you're going to get.

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Cockroach, meet light

Scurry, scurry, the humans see you!

We all have our trolls

Yes, I have noticed this pattern in the past as well, and have commented on it here before. EVERYTHING that these traitorous pieces of crap post is intended to deflect our attention and support AWAY from Ron Paul and a true pro-liberty position, and TOWARD the establishment and the status-quo. It is their modus operandi, and their sole raison d'etre.

The very worst of these pathetic shills is Pro-Fed ("preferred"), followed by RonBarr, El-Booger and bedr1.

Be aware of these SOB's!

SSgT_AF

is definitely a troll.

Yeah, but I think they're

Yeah, but I think they're all the same one or two dudes.... traitors, whether it's one or many, however.

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Truth is treason in an empire of lies.

I wonder if they change

into a different set of pajamas every time they log in under a different name? Oh, the life of a troll is just so underappreciated!

Obvious

Some trolls are painfully obvious. Other trolls are more deceptive and cunning. In the end we must all think for ourselves and form our own opinions. After all those with no convictions will fall for any type of convincing in my opinion. Thanks for exposing the traitorous brainwashing trolls.

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Theyre as subtle as cockroaches on white carpet

but Id be offended if we werent viewed as important enough to troll on. The amt of trolling they do has GOT to be some sort of litmus test that testifies to the amount influence we have as a political block. When the trolling stops - its time to pack it up- we lost.

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Very good point, Jinc.

Very good point, Jinc. Definately a direct corolation there. ~peace~

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Truth is treason in an empire of lies.

docholladay: I can sleep better knowing yoou're tracking trolls

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I like me a troll hunt

Lets take them out with the trash. l Atleast would like to see them shown in the light.

Shining the light on you

SSgT_AF..you are a troll for sure