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Does anyone think we should bombard our Republican congressional reps with the knowledge that we now know how the whole process was orchestrated? Shall we send letters to the editor as well with these firsthand stories? I'm still so frustrated as I read more and more descriptions of what went on at the RNC. We can only guess how strong Ron Paul really is having taken this abuse for 30 years! My local paper actually printed our letter to the editor about Ron Paul, and my local congressman's secretary actually phoned our house! Shall we chalk this nightmare up to experience or get the word out about this injustice? Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you.

Hello all,

First I'd like to thank all the supporters who came out to the caucuses across Massachusetts and especially in the eigth district (Boston) where we swept our caucuses. If every RP supporter across the nation had committed to this level, I think we could have had enough stealth RP delegates to get this nomination.

My story is here for all to judge. I'm just going to give the facts here. I think you can judge for yourself about how we handled this. There is a lot of speculation also, which I may post later after verified.

We came into town Monday night and were invited to a GOP reception which was followed by a RP reception across town. At the GOP reception we gathered near a replica of air force one along with many RP delegates from other states. We decided to start a Ron Paul chant while streaming out to ruffle some feathers. It worked .

We arrived at the RP reception with a plan hatched by Chris Blanc, who was quoted above and Todd Fay, who was Chris's alternate. We got in the reception and listened to Dr. Paul. After the speech we had a supporter who was going to go along with the plan take the mic and announce a meeting outside the hall. Drew Ivers took the mic not long after this and started to announce that he wanted people to stick around and listen to him and Jesse Benton.

The purpose of our meeting in the courtyard was to plan to nominate RP for president, which the campaign had given up on for a long time. We understood the rules of the roll call vote, which stated that RP could not be nominated or placed on the ballot of choices for the roll call vote for all states without the support of the majority of five delegations. We identified the ten smallest delegations and assigned delegates from across the country to approach delegates from these delegations with petitions for placing RP on the ballot. This was understood to be a Hail Mary, but we were not going to give up. We went nuts on the floor on Tuesday trying to get these petitions signed.

The people from the WA delegation were actually able to get the support of the majority of the virgin islands delegation, but our luck stopped there.

We were not able to get RP placed on the ballot for all states. Some states were legally required to report the votes of RP supporters who were legally bound to RP, but most states were not. In Massachusetts, most of us were bound by state law to McCain. We were only given the option of McCain or abstain.

When asked about my vote by my party chairman, I was given the option of McCain or abstain. Knowing there would be legal issues, I told him I was to abstain. Every Ron Paul delegate from Massachusetts initially voted to abstain. This started a shitstorm on the floor behind the wolf blitzer tent. We told them we wanted RP to speak on and have full floor access which he had been denied by the convention. They called in a Rep from the McCain campaign who told us that we could make a deal. If we got all the delegates for RP from all states united to vote for McCain, we could potentially have recognition for RP from the stage (maybe not RP but perhaps a grassroots supporter). We called as many delegates from other states to meet, and we decided not to take the deal. The reason for this was that we were unable to contact anyone from the campaign to advise us or to tell us that RP was willing to speak. No one answered their phones... I personally told everyone that we had to make the decision without the campaign (since I don't trust them anyway), but this was not the majority opinion.

During the meeting we were surrounded by a massive goon squad with ear pieces listening and typing everything we said. We had the sergeant at arms harassing our people trying to steal our list of RP delegates from all states. We had interns surrounding us with fake homemade signs to hide us from the media. We broke the meeting with the resolution to negotiate on the state level.

I can't speak for what happened in other states, but I do not expect anyone was given tickets to the rage concert... Many people had tickets already and wanted to go instead of being on the floor or anywhere near the propaganda festival.

For our state, we worked out a deal which was by no means unanimous. There was much dissent, but I think most of the people who did not agree are now realizing that we did the best we could do. Most of us gave our votes to alternates rather than abstaining.

Now for my interpretation:

To us, eight abstentions which would likely not have been reported was of less value than cooperation with the party in helping to get a meetup director on the State Committee, getting RP supporters on town commitees and formally welcoming us into the party. This puts us in a position to elect more RP supporters to the state committee for the upcoming election cycle, and if we fully activate all our supporters in the state we can own this committee, period. In the next presidential elections, Massachusetts can have 100% delegates for Ron Paul or a similar candidate without a doubt in my mind. Had we not made this deal, the party would have likely opposed us illegally every step of the way. We have an agreement in writing from our state party granting us several things that have already and will bring us much closer to our goals in Massachusetts. To get this, we worked with people in the party who supported Pat Buchanan in prior presidential runs, and a man on the national platform committee who struck a clause in support of the North American Union on our insistence. These party people are extremely happy. I believe they're happy not because of the unanimous vote as much as the prospect of having us in the party in the future. -->

One thing is for sure…I'm pretty pissed! As tired as I was after the 23 hours ride, I rushed to my computer, checked email, and read every word in this section. Absolutely mind-numbing! First of all, I can't believe that RP supporters would rush to the various forums and start their own set of potential rumors. We (MA RP Delegation) just spent a week dealing with disseminating rumors as they arose. I just can't understand why people would fuel the rumor-mill rather than wait to hear directly from their respective Delegation. Before I give you my personal account of the night, it appears a number of things were called in to question regarding the MA Delegation including our commitment to the mission and sleeping with the devil....to those people I would like to offer this tiny but exciting piece of my mind.
First, let me validate my roll in all this. We are a Homeschool family and I have supported Dr. Paul since 1988. I am a municipal employee and Chair two boards in my town. I spent countless hours phone-banking, canvassing, and various other campaign related activities. I (we) strategized, practiced speeches, and educated ourselves. The big day soon came where I was able to stand up in front of my fellow Republicans of the first District and state my name, announce my intent as a McCain Delegate, and deliver the best RP speech I could muster. I didn't mention the good Doctor's name but I sure did include his talking points. I spent an hour and a half working the room prior to the Caucus and used everything I could to gain the advantage. I garnished the second highest number of votes and EARNED my seat. A seat which was challenged within 24 hours because they had me on video calling for Bush's impeachment and any others that stood in the way. I did this at a televised town-hall-style meeting with Olver / Neal. Let me repeat this again...I EARNED MY SEAT!!! We also went on to form our own stand-alone group and I now produce a weekly radio show to further our cause.
I read some very disturbing comments regarding our Delegation. Many of these venomous comments were made by individuals that either weren't there or truly didn't know what the overall mission really is. I was on another forum where this guy named MortyKi just arbitrarily cut us to pieces. I looked at the guy's picture and read his trail of comments only to find that he wasn't at the "Real Politics" seminar and didn't even know what the goal is! In fact, given the repetitive flames, I dare say he acted very similar to your classic provocateur. I refuse to waist any time responding to these people so let me just make this one general comment for the record. First, you (providing you're not a Antagonist) should at least wait until the Delegation debriefs and reports in officially. Second, if you went to the Real Politics seminar, participated in the phone conference, and properly prepared yourself, you would better understand what happened that night and how it relates to our stated goal. My individual statement to all you MortyKi's is this. Shut your fucking pie-holes until you hear from your respective Delegation! And above all....if you're not prepared to get a little bruised up to deliver a time-sensitive bash in the head, then go back to playing Dungeons-N-Dragons and keep the fuck out of politics! It isn’t for you!
Everything we learned....everything in the conference call....everything in the seminar was executed during that little two hour portion of our lives. To the best of our ability, we relied on everything we learned and prepared for. Oh and BTW, we did it with an intense presence of secret service like you would not believe.
Here's what I experienced personally.
Several of our Delegation was already seated when a fellow female Delegate arrived. As soon as we sat down we learned that the others were polled as to what their official vote would be. A GOPer was seated directly in front of me and diagonal to her. GOPer immediately began to work on her. I don't know if he initially knew I was right behind him. I injected myself into the conversation when it started to get uncomfortable and firmly asserted our position. After a moderately heated exchange, the GOPer got up and rushed over to speak with Torkildsen. Within two minutes he returned and said for she and I to come with him. We did. We followed him to the lower access corridor that leads under the bleacher seats. Torkildsen met us at the entrance and accompanied us in.
As soon as we got inside we were immediately surrounded by Congressman, McCain Campaign reps, the highest members of our State party, and an ever-growing secret service presence. We were literally pushing these goons off our backs. It was unbelievable. We got ambushed, period. When I recognized what was happening I immediately sent my fellow Delegate to get the rest of the group ASAP, which she did.
The only thing I could do was attempt to dominate the conversation and take advantage of what we learned. We took advantage of the timing and momentum and proceeded to BASH THEM OVER THE HEAD!
Once the others arrived to my aid, we continued to make demands and apply as much pressure as we could. Don't forget....THEY CAME TO US. They "feared" us. They finally "respected" us. We pushed for equal floor access, formal speaking time, public recognition of the C4L, and the list goes on. We hit our communication network on-site and I had one of our dedicate supporters ready to execute various things here locally. RP detractors need to familiarize themselves with RP's advise. There are two parties and we have to work within them, period. We are to seek various seats in government and put down the roots of Liberty.
As I see it, we really only had two choices. We could have voted against our stated goals and vote with our heart by casting our vote for RP or abstain. BTW, Torkildsen already said they would aggressively pursue legal recourse for any abstentions and affectively kill my chances of being elected Delegate in 2012. Hmmm, if I did this, what exposure would we get? I'll tell you....NONE. It would have been cleansed out of the news reports just like it has been. We all saw it during the official reading of the vote. We've made a lot of trade-offs like that already. We leave with nothing more than our pride of message. Not this time! Not today! Today we deliver a bloody nose and take something in their moment of weakness. We tried to get as many RP representatives involved as we could, but the demands on the National level quickly became an impossibility. Besides, we didn't have a line open to RP to back or adjust our plan as needed. Oh, and I think it's about time we thoroughly vette our liaison(s).
At this point we pushed for everything we could get. We weren't going home empty handed and we weren't about to be our usual diplomatic selves. We came together as a team and made our demands known! Some were generic and long overdue but others had a tangible benefit to our movement / goal. Lets not forget that the Convention was just one of many battlegrounds. I didn't expect to win the war this week and I hope no one else did either.
We left the altercation with some significant footholds within local and state seats. This "IS" what we're supposed to be doing. Our message was heard loud and clear, our level of organization and commitment was evident, and gained an established "our" presence and message within the Republican Party. Do you understand what I said....Liberty now has roots within the Massachusetts Republican Party!
Read those words closely. They accepted us, but we didn't accept them (NeoCon message). We were accepting of the few that were understanding of our message of Liberty and backed those sentiments with action. Those that didn't are simply going to be replaced with someone that is qualified. We must use the existing system and available resources to make the changes necessary to regain constitutional governance. Those of you that for some unexplained reason actually think that we can miraculously come up with the massive numbers needed to instantly take over, you do not understand the plan.
I'd like to take this chance to clear up another popular misconception. Not one of us sold out and voted for McCain!!! Everyone I spoke to did just what I did and walked off the floor. I never casted a vote for McCain! I couldn't stomach doing such a thing for someone I am so adamantly against in principal. This dirty job was left to my Alternate. We didn't sacrifice our principals and we didn't leave empty handed either. I apologize for nothing!
I know many of you say these are only hollow promises and we were had. Although we were seeing immediate action on some of the concessions, we fully understand that we'll have to apply relentless pressure on the GOP to make good on every last item, which BTW we got in writing. Now that we have our foot wedged in the door you can be sure that we will be asking for more. There is a long time until the election and they are still quite fearful of what we are capable of doing in response to the slightest breach of our terms.
The one thing that could make everything that was accomplished a total waste is for our network to be divided and conquered. If we self-destruct after the first major bump in the road, I clearly overestimated the understanding and coherence of our group. We will be faced with many challenges on this quest for Liberty and you better get used to it. Politics is a dirty business and you better get used to that too. I have the utmost respect and admiration for my fellow Delegates, Alternates, and guests! If everything about this movement came to an end at this very moment I would consider myself a richer person and sincerely grateful for knowing and working with each and every one of them. My 3-cornered hat is off to you my friends. You are true solders of Liberty and I will fight beside you until the day we claim victory and beyond.
My parting advice is as follows. Please don't let your various groups fall victim to internal fighting. Thoroughly vette any questionable members. The C4L, like any other major movement is susceptible to being compromised. Be on the lookout to provocateurs. The message of Liberty and constitutional government is a strong one. It usually sells itself. Those that still openly oppose that message are your enemy! This is a bi-cameral system and we must work within it. Having a recognized third party is years or even decades away and we simply don't have the luxury of time on our side. Put your best people forward and TAKE your rightful seats at the table! Yes it's a dirty corrupt system and nobody here is denying that. It got that way through incremental degradation and infiltration by globalist lap-dogs. We must infiltrate in much the same way. We must identify and vette those established insiders that are supportive of our movement. They are few and far between, but they are there. Identify the corrupt within our government and politically attack them with relentless and unforgiving intensity. Give them not one moment of rest and make them fear your political existence. Bash those evil bastards over the head every chance you get...it feels good. Anarchist style approaches will gain nothing in a political fight. Stay on ethical high ground, insist on your seat at the table, and demand recognition as a classic conservative by the Party.
I truly hope this provides people with a better understanding of what actually happened that night. Nobody sold out the movement....it was a victory. We lost nothing of National recognition and made clear gains towards our ultimate goal. I couldn't be more proud of our Delegation and other operatives. I stand firm with them and they've earned my unwavering respect. The RP supporters of MA took 1/3 of our states delegate seats and should remain proud of that victory. You are true leaders in this fight for Liberty and serve as a shining example of patriotism. I am a better person for knowing you and look forward to fighting side-by-side with you on the next battlefield. And to those that oppose the message of Liberty and sovereignty, I would like to leave you with the following quote.
Be it with your blood or mine, soon we water the tree of Liberty!
In respect & Liberty,
Dave
1st District Delegate

Because he wasn't allowed to be.

If you guys think you can change the Republican party 'from within' by jumping in lockstep you are out of your minds.

Of course Ron Paul doesn't want you to 'disrupt things'. Ron Paul doesn't even want to be President.

You guys got steam rolled -- shit if I were a McCain supporter I'd pretend to be your friend for a few days after you threw your support behind McCain too.

McCain is not going to win this year barring some heavy corruption -- he has absolutely no chance.

If McCain wins he just validates the EVIL of the Republican party.

You want to be more hated?

No Ron Paul republican will have a chance with a McCain ass kiss requirement.

Bush destroyed the Republican party and McCain would salt the Earth so nothing can grow back.

The weak-mindedness of our delegates is just plain sad.

look.. we had a conference call with Ron Paul and Drew Ivers right before the RNC. They clearly told us NOT to disrupt the convention. That is why Ron didn't show up himself. He was invited but chose not to come.
All of this "if I was there I would have done this" talk is ludicrous. There are reasons why you were not there and reasons why we were. I am working within the party and making connections. I can assure you that I am accomplishing more from within than the "flame throwers" are from the outside.. from the sidelines.
I understand your frustration because I feel it. I feel my soul being sucked from me but it is actually making me stronger.
As far as me voting for McCain... NEVER!