My employer is making me do direct deposit with my paycheck.

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I currently get a paycheck every week, but soon everyone in the company will be forced to set up a bank account and have there money directly deposited. I was wondering if they really have the authority to tell me what to do with my money? Is there any way around this? It doesn't seem right.

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State of Washington law allows it

I have been told by ADP (Automated Data Processing) that the State of Washington has a law that allows employers the right to require paychecks be direct deposited. Many employers chose to do that because checks really are expensive to process. ADP, for those employers, offers Direct Deposit and re-fillable Debit Cards that get credited with the net pay each pay day, so an employee who refuses to have a bank account does have a way to receive pay. But, the employer may choose to require direct deposit.

the only thing your boss has to do is withhold and match taxes

by law. You can quit over it,if they need you then they will cave, if not you got a jump on the depression bread lines

Deep,

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you have a rare opportunity

Paint the picture for them. If the banks decide to close, we will lose our money just like during the great depression. Tell them I'm not comfortable with putting my money in a bank. and add that you are surprised they are with everything that's been going on. Send them a link to that senator exposing the fact that the banks did not offer the bail out to consumers in the way of loans but gave themselves huge bonuses. They probably don't know. I would just tell them no. It's your money. File a complaint with the state labor board.

You don't have to set up a bank account..

Set up an account with a local Credit Union instead - and pull everything out but the minimum if you're still not comfortable with your money there - I do!

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This is how the new bank business model will unfold ...

Deposits are king.

Banks will contract with companies to direct deposit into an account set up with the bank.

Therefore the deposit will simply transfer, but remain in this bank.

Additionally, they will save bigger companies lots of money in exchange for this mandate on their employees.

Also, banks will set up schemes with utility companies where a company will reverse negotiate up a price for their energy in exchange for a reduction perk for their employees. This will save a bundle in payroll taxes alone.

This has been in the pipeline even before the crisis.

But now, since the new business model places a premium on deposits, these schemes will become the norm rather quickly.

It's actually a quite interesting model and the financial harm is only realized by the gov. in reduced revenue from taxes.

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Cashless Monopoly Game?

"Jeff Wacker, a futurist at Electronic Data Systems Corp., said Dexit's failure is not an isolated incident. He said France was unsuccessful a few years ago in a nationwide effort to promote the smart card, which can be used to make purchases and other uses such as loyalty programs and health insurance. "Money in an account doesn't mean much; money in your hand means something."
Mr. Wacker said cash will likely be around for a long time unless there is an extraordinary event such as a link between cash and a deadly disease such as the Avian flu. "Short of that, I don't think there will be a dissolution of actual physical cash." ....article from 2006 about the new Debit Monopoly game. http://www.canada.com/topics/fnance/story.html?id=488e476c-2...

Officer, am I being

Officer, am I being detained?

Officer, if I am not being detained, am I free to go?

Officer, if I am being detained, under what charge do you reasonably suspect me of having committed?

In the same way as a police encounter, I would ask the employer:

Employer, under what law are you forcing me to get a checking account?

Put the burden of proof on them to proof on them. If you are on check systems and am unable to have a checking account for 5 years, what could he do? Fire you for having bad credit?

2 cents worth.

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As I understand it...

..it's getting harder to cash a check in a bank if you don't have an account there to begin with.

I recently got a check from a customer, drove to HIS bank.... not just his bank, but his BRANCH... and they still wouldn't cash the check for me.

I made a bit of a stink but the place was almost empty and the manager eventually walked away from me.

A friend in the same town tells me that it's common now. She had to get accounts for her kids just to deposit birthday/Christmas checks made out to them. They wouldn't even cash them against her own account!

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

That happened to me

That happened to me about 40 years ago. I had borrowed money from a friend to make college tuition. It was the last day to pay up. I went to the bank the check was drawn on, and they refused cash it. I said, "Look here. The check says, 'Pay to the order of Jive Dadson.' I am Jive Dadson, and I am ordering. It's not your money. The woman whose money it is says pay me, SO PAY ME!"

After about fifteen minutes of back and forth, I sat down on a bank officer's desk and told him I was not getting up until they cashed the check. I mean, I literally sat on his desk. There was a bank guard closely monitoring the situation, and I could tell he wanted nothing to do with me. After about a minute of the sit-in, the bank officer relented.

Yes they have the right to pay you via direct deposit.

ONLY...

DD is no different than a Check as far as the paper trail..
And you can open a WAMU free checking or some other free checking and withdraw the money (most of it , required minimum balance.)

You could start your own company and pay yourself how ever you want.

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It's quite easy

Set up a checking account with 0 minimum balance near enough to your work so you can go there on lunch. If they deposit your check on Thursday night, go to the bank Friday and withdraw every dime. You can just do this every week.

They absolutely have the legal authority to do this, you are an at will employee and they can pay you how they want.

Most employees like the direct deposit, since it saves them a trip. I wouldn't go back to paper paychecks. The point is, they can't really give paper checks to some and dd to others, so they pick dd.

Don't make a stink over it, just set up a bank account and clear it out every week.

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tell your employer to give

tell your employer to give you real cash or quit ... this is all a result of that credit creation game the fed plays ... is cash beginning that hard to come by that everyone is just using numbers now instead of the actual paper cash? lol

wait don't just quite

I work in construction and I know what I would do. I would continue to work there the week before as long as they would let me work that week and rack up man hours. No matter what he owes me if I work. then on that friday I would go up and ask for my check. If he gave me a big speal about i needed a bank account I would go the next day and file a mechanics lean on the house I was working on. The good thing about a mechanics lean is once I file it the home owner knows immediatly and he will go straight to the contractor and the fight will be on he will pay me out of his own pocket if he has to just to make it go away or he could lose the job. I would of course be fired right after that but hey I'm an ass when people try to force me to conform. I am not going to do well in thei new world order I don't think hehehehe.

PayPal?

I know people have mixed feelings about PayPal, but maybe use them instead of a "bank"???

Paycheck

My employer put us a direct deposit a few years back.At first I was dead set against it,I didn't want a bank account because I dealt in cash and hadn't made any loans for years.But they (the bank) offered us free checking because of our multiple accounts (employees). Eventualy I liked it much better than the old paycheck,some of us still get a paystub so it's not a big change.But the ease of getting your money is far better,you don't have to go to the bank and cash your check,it's already there and if you have free checking and a debit card money can be had almost anywhere at any time.But I understand why you might have concerns,I did at first.

That's nothing...

Wait until you have to let them swipe your SuperAmerican Anti-Terrorist Real ID Freedom Card before they will deposit that money into your account.

lol.

oh dude. that was good... :SuperAmerican Anti-Terrorist Real ID Freedom Card

Private companies can pay

Check your employment contract. Unless you specifically agreed to be paid a certain way, they can do what they like. If you don't like it, ask for a new contract that explicitly says you want to be paid by Twinkies in a purple bucket. Or quit.

That's right. Quit and start

That's right. Quit and start your own company or consulting business if you want to avoid being told how to run your affairs.

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I own my own business

I own my own business and if I find it saves me money or is easier to do direct deposits then I do it. The employee/employer relationship is voluntary on both sides. Please don't try to saddle your boss with more big government problems than he has to deal with already. If you are in a small enough company then go talk to him/her directly and try to work it out. If it is a big company my advice is find a small local bank or a member owned credit union and open up an account.

The government has no more role telling me who to hire or how to pay them, than I do hugging trees and asking for welfare.

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I'm glad I have direct deposit.

I need to have a bank account in order to make online bill payments. Having a paycheck I need to deposit takes productive time out of my day, so automatic deposit is a big time-saver.

If I were living paycheck to paycheck, I might feel differently but my reality is that risking one or two paychecks' worth of money in a bank account is small potatoes. (I seldom leave more than that amount in there.) The bulk of my savings are not in a bank.

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why are you guys talking

why are you guys talking about checking laws and all that..if the employer wants to pay their employees by direct deposit then thats their right to do so..its their establishment...if you dont like it get another job..but in all honesty its very convenient to have direct deposit...like i said..use a credit union and not a bank..not everything has to be a battle...

Research the Law

Ask your employer what law requires this. Always ask a person or a company what law or rule they are operating under when they demand that you do something you feel infringes on your freedom.

Of course, it's possible that a private company can require this without backing by law. I have a friend who works for the federal government and was told that she had to have her checks directly deposited and she simply told them no, and that was the end of it. But the federal government may have legal constraints that private companies do not have.

In any event, always research the law. Of course, even if you find a law that says the company can't require direct deposit, getting the company to adhere to the law is another matter. I have 12 years of experience in trying to live my life as a free woman, and it's butting up against a stone wall most of the time. (Try opening a bank account without an SSN, for instance.)

If you find something in the law, please share it here! Also, if you're successful in getting your company to back down on this issue, please share that also. We patriots need to hear success stories from people who have done something to preserve their freedom - it's becoming more and more difficult in this "softly fascistic" country.

My best to you in your endeavors.

I hope you're not advocating

using the goverment or law to force his employer to give him what he wants. That would be violation of the employer's freedom to run their business how they want. Government regulation of business is not what we should be supporting.

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"Using the government or law to force his employer..."

If there is a law saying that private companies cannot require employees to get direct deposit, then I say use that law.

I understand that private companies should be free to run their businesses the way they want to - in an ideal market economy. Meanwhile, in a country that already restricts so many freedoms, if there is a law protecting any freedom, find that law and use it.

You seem not to be concerned that what his company is trying to force him to do is to be part of the Federal Reserve System.

That's attrocious

That's an attrocious thing to be supporting if you're a Paul supporter. We should be supporting all existing laws simply because they're existing laws? How about principles? We as Paul supporters should be defending the right of business to carry on without the interference of government.

Your justification is that the government already intereferes with the economy. Because of that you say that therefore we need more government regulations in order to make up for it. But you're advocating even bigger government, which creates even more inefficiency in the marketplace. This is precisely the idea that we should be fighting against: increasing the power of government in order to cure problems that government created. That's the road to socialism. That's what you're advocating. Government control of business is socialism.

And he's not being "forced" into the Federal Reserve system. He doesn't have to agree to their terms. He's free to walk out the door.

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It's freedom of contract and trade.

If you don't like the terms of working there you don't have to work there. If you continue to work there you agree to it. You're making a trade when you work. You give something to them and they give something to you. If they don't give you all you want, you're free to shop elsewhere.

Now if the GOVERNMENT required your employer to pay you with direct deposit, then there would be something wrong.

If you think you're so valuable to them that you could tell them you'll quit unless they give you a check, then go for it. If not then you'll have to settle that you don't have much bargaining power. You're not valuable enough to them to make that concession. That's the free market.

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It is being done.

I work at a Ruby Tuesday in Corvallis, OR. This process has already been implemented. We had the choice of choosing banks, then Ruby Tuesday sent out debit cards to each employee. I already was using direct deposit, so it had no effect on my paychecks.

Oregonian yo!

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