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Jesse Ventura on Falling Towers and Physics.

From the Matt Labash hit piece in Weekly Standard:

I decide to bait Ventura, offering that some of the 9/11 Truthers in the crowd are disappointed their viewpoints aren't being represented.

"They will when I get up there," he growls. He says he's been studying the issue "for well over a year and a half," and he feels "very strongly that the truth has not been forthcoming."

When asked what the truth is and whether the government had something to do with it, he says, "I don't know. But I know this, I do have somewhat of a demolition background, being a member of the Navy's underwater demolition team, and I spoke to a few of my teammates a couple weeks ago. We're all in agreement that buildings can't fall at the rate of gravity without being assisted. And that's called physics, that's not an opinion."

This pretty much puts to bed the idea that Ventura is anything other than a full-blown 9-11 Truther.



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It depends

on how you define the term "911 trurther". Note that Ventura has consistently said he does not say 911 was a "govt. inside job". He said it is possible, e.g. leave the room open for it, but he does NOT say all evidence point to this. He said he does not know. His words are being shewed by Alex Jones & Co. so as to suggest Jesse Ventura is a 911 truther.

Newsflash: He is not necessarily one!

Something for the 911 truthers to think about: suppose one does not agree with the official building 7 story and say it was a demolition, it could always be that of some secrative group, perhaps some inside the CIA that knew an attack was going to happen at some time and therefore planted it with explosives before. This does NOT necessarily means the govt, the administration behind it. It could be a separate group with perhaps some contacts in the govt. but NOT the govt. themselves. So you have to be cautious.....

divide and conquer--pls transcend this problem

my comment on Reel American's Thread of sarcasm-and giving up
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/60398
[cool! i like it
On September 6th, 2008 jc-philippines says:
after reading your post, i smiled at how people react--some without reading everything, some without waiting for your explanation, some who are honest and principled enough to disagree with you in a reasonable manner.]

i respect everyone here. but you should also respect those who are and will never be at your level. there are those who cant handle more depth of truth. but that is the essence of a group of people called citizens. each fights to their own understanding of the situation--no one is less of a citizen/true nationalist than the other.

the essence of the dissimilarity of the diverse. what is new i think for the psychologically divided people bombarded with hate/division laden crap of the old manipulated corporate media, is the concept of unity on certain issues,and disagreement in others, but UNDER A COMMON CAUSE.

this is actually a blessing,because this movement forces people of divergent backgrounds, beliefs and values to be on the same train,the same bed--and this is bitter medicine because of the social darwinism religion imposed by the elite to let you police yourselves--from the mantra of "every man for himself" to the stigmatization of groups and "guilt by association" psychology of policing yourselves apparatus.

there is no truther, there is no denier, there is no weekend warrior amongst you all. even the most jaded is still your brother/sister. he/she just hadn't had been reached intellectually or emotionally stirred yet. it will come---AND YOU WILL ALL REALIZE HOW ALL OF YOU ARE THE SAME-ONE PEOPLE, fighting your oppressors.

pls welcome each and everyone, including the whiners. you are now united in one cause-liberty. may you all succeed, coz, if you don't-all of us, even outside america, are doomed. you guys are in a unique position of being really able to do something with an effect--us outside had been fighting this imperialism a long time, with no significant effect

someone placed a thread--has DP no concept of the power he wields now? i say---have you guys, united now, have any idea of the power you now wield? a united people--the status quo would try to so hard to break this up now

I agree with Jesse, a lot of

I agree with Jesse, a lot of our rights, and the crash of the dollar eroded because 9/11, i think the in estigation the government gave is in question and should be addressed.Jesse didnt claim the gov did it just asked why isnt osama been charged? Im not a huge jesse fan (he is to arrogant for me) but he gave a great speach at RP rally. I 100% agree with questioning the event and think we need more open goverment-if a new investigation showed bush was involved, i think he should go to jail indefinatley.

Jessie's all good

in my book.

How loud were the cheers for him, when he brought up some questions about 9.11?

Everybody has a theory, the government has theirs and

I have mine.

"Evil flourishes when good men do nothing."
—Edmund Burke

I love how reading through some of these comments

I get a strange feeling that Jesse is being attacked for his beliefs. But what is happening in all reality when those of you call him a kook must realize is that you are scared and terrified that our government Killed 3000 of our own citizens. Because that means ultimately that they will kill you if you stand in the way of defending the Constitution which they are eroding day by day with the Patriot act and unjustified wars which all sprung from this False Flag event..

If you cant face the reality of the situation then you will be a slave the rest of your life..

Jesse Ventura isn't scared, and those who attack him are showing their weakness and fears...

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Speaking for myself

I support Ventura as a future candidate, regardless of his so-called "Truther" stance (which I believe is overstating the case anyway). He has far more pluses than minuses.

Your statement, "what is happening in all reality when those of you call him a kook must realize is that you are scared and terrified that our government Killed 3000 of our own citizens", is just unsupportable speculation.

Besides, such a thing would never be able to remain hidden. Never! Our government has trouble keeping ANY secrets hidden, much less the events leading up to and occurring on 9/11.

Again, Jesse Ventura has too much to offer besides a fringe belief which may ultimately never be proven one way or the other to "truther" satisfaction.

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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore

You're right

They can't keep it hidden. That is why their is an all out assault on people who are spreading the truth to be labeled as kook or discredited in anyway shape of form possible... They don't want people like Ventura waking up the masses of sheeple in America because when that happens it will make the French revolution look like a week in Disney land.

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Regardless of your beliefs,

Regardless of your beliefs, could we agree to disagree and re-focus on Campaign for Liberty?

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"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic..." —Alan Moore

Indict Bin Laden

Indict Bin Laden, Indict Bin Laden, Indict Bin Laden. Peace

"We can see with our eyes, hear with our ears and feel with our touch, but we understand with our hearts."

Good on him

But really, who cares?

The only thing I got was that the truthers are easily the most damaging element in the RPR, so damaging, in fact, that if I were a Mossad agent or more likely the FBI, I would pose as a truther, whatever any kind of wingding and get in here and go for it.

Thankfully most truthers here KNOW THIS which is why the subject dried up here thank god, allah, yahweh and brad pitt.

But you all are still itching to start yap yap yapping, breathless pant pant panting wide eyed eye rolling and only just can hold it in.

I am reading the Creature from Jekyll Island (if anyone here has not read it, you must) only now and can't believe anyone would give a rats ass about 9/11 truth, when what we really need is Central Banking/Fiat Money truth!!!!

PRIORITIES PLEASE.

Sorry if I have offended anyone but watching Morning Joe and hearing them having to give a caveat to Ron Paul's supporters saying "Well some of them have REALLY crazy ideas and we wont' even go into that" made me QUITE ANGRY.

You people are undermining this, you dirty MOTHERFIGURES.

Thanks. Feel better now.

"What does conservatism today stand for? It stands for war. It stands for power. It stands for spying, jailing without trial, torture, counterfeiting without limit, and lying from morning to night."

Lew Rockwell

You are...

a total moron Annie,

Yes I read that book years ago and it is what woke me up as to WHO the gangsters are that stole the Whitehouse and control every facet of the government. If you believe for one second that they would not "sacrifice" 3000 Americans to achieve their goal of world domination and control, then you better just remain asleep in your happy cubby hole.

Wake up and grab a brain.

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It's not only if "they would,"

but would they be able to organize such a complex and large conspiracy and make sure no in the conspiracy comes forth the blow the whistle? Not likely.

That's why it's such a far fetched belief. Somethign would have leaked, and most likely before the event even happened.

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"Just like Alex Jones will do; he'll try to put words in my mouth... You try to put words in my mouth too, just like Alex Jones does." - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2370864598223573012&...

you have it so easy

i wish i lived in your world where everything is just what they say it is.

Live Free or Diebold

Ooh, "Creature from Jekyll

Ooh, "Creature from Jekyll Island"! That's weirdo stuff...conspiracy theory.

Stop undermining us. You make us look kooky with your unfounded Federal Reserve conspiracy theories.

SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States

SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States

Oh, that Federal Reserve stuff

is SOOOO EMBARRASSING!

It's ruining the entire movement.
Can't you just keep quiet about that nonsense?

Keep your wild ideas to yourself.

GO JESSE GO get W/ PAUL

I still lov JESSE , the tower thing doesn't mean crap to me.
says

towers again

COME ON people I told you before the towers were not typical construction. This fact alone would tell me they would fall differently than ordinary construction . CUT it OUT
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oh if that's the case..

"I told you before the towers were not typical construction."

I feel better now and I'm sure everyone else does too.....dumbass.

5 weeks.

you have been here five weeks. Those buildings were made to withstand mulitple hurricanes and jet impacts way larger than a 757. Stop Disinfo.

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Jesse's confused, too

"We're all in agreement that buildings can't fall at the rate of gravity without being assisted."

Wait but in no controlled demolition does a building fall at the rate of gravity, either. So how, pray tell, would TPTB engineer an event which is physically unprecedented?

This leaves two possibilities - 1) TPTB have overengineered the problem (using untested techniques) to try too hard to make it look like something natural, leaving us an avenue to figure out what's going on. Or 2) whoever says that WTC towers "fell at the rate of gravity" is simply misinformed.

You can't argue that something that breaks the laws of physics implies conspiracy, because conspirators are not more powerful than the laws of physics, either.

Whatever you feel about 9/11 being a conspiracy theory or not, Jesse is clearly off his rocker, and chasing a red herring.

Jesse Ventura...

...is one of my favorite american characters of today! He is truly a one of a kind.

truth liberate

go Jesse go!

just finished his book Don't Start a Revolution Without Me.
Everyone in our movement should read it!

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so.........

So what. It's his Constitutional right to believe what he wishes. I don't know what happened that day but I think another investigation is due. Someone needs to be fired for incompetence, or hanged for treason, whatever the case may be.

Found this while searching on Google

Thought some on DP might be interested to read an in-depth explanation of why the WTC collapsed.

Journal of Engineering Mechanics ASCE
Why Did the World Trade Center Collapse?—Simple
Analysis
By Zdenˇek P. Baˇzant1, Fellow ASCE, and Yong Zhou2

Abstract: This paper presents a simplified approximate analysis of the overall collapse of
the towers of World Trade Center in New York on September 11, 2001. The analysis shows
that if prolonged heating caused the majority of columns of a single floor to lose their load
carrying capacity, the whole tower was doomed. The structural resistance is found to be an
order of magnitude less than necessary for survival, even though the most optimistic simplifying
assumptions are introduced.
Introduction and Failure Scenario
The 110-story towers of the World Trade Center were designed to withstand as a whole the
forces caused by a horizontal impact of a large commercial aircraft (Appendix I). So why did a
total collapse occur? The cause was the dynamic consequence of the prolonged heating of the
steel columns to very high temperature. The heating lowered the yield strength and caused
viscoplastic (creep) buckling of the columns of the framed tube along the perimeter of the
tower and of the columns in the building core. The likely scenario of failure is approximately
as follows.

continue reading here(14 pages,a quick read though,large letters double spaced):
http://www-math.mit.edu/~bazant/WTC/WTC-asce.pdf

Thanks...

...for the post.

It would be easier

Horatius, Rather than read the so called report on why the towers collapsed, why not just trot down to your local pasture and find a real big heap of cow shit and stick your head in it? You will at least be dealing with some facts then!

Moooooooooooooo

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

That day

That day when I sat watching live TV coverage with dried shaving creme on my face, I knew something was wrong when the first bldg went down. It just didn't make sense as I watched it fall. I said to myself, this is a demolition. Something is wrong here. Then number two went down - the exact same way. Then number three (bldg 7) went down and it wasn't even hit.

That day I was in shock at what I had witnessed. The planes and then the strategic and carefully executed demolition(s). I felt the attack was orchestrated and planned by terrorists AND others. My thoughts have only become stronger as I have learned more. Damn it, I want to know who was responsible for this.

I'm not an explosives expert, but I have watched hundreds of controlled and planned building demolitions on video in my lifetime because I find them fascinating, always have. the randomness of the planes and the fires were overshadowed by the precision of the demolition(s).

I'm not a demolition expert

I'm not a demolition expert either but the people that rigged the towers must have been demolition savants. Imagine, rigging a 110 story building with enough explosives to drop it to the ground, having a jet airliner plow into the side of the building without detonating the rig, and then after the tower burns for an hour pull the switch...oh and isn't it amazing that the towers began crumbling at the point of impact, these guys must have been Kreskin-like..to know exactly where to place the explosives...

Miamisburg, Montgomery County, Ohio

A Bush was in charge of Security for WTC

Marvin P. Bush, the president's younger brother, was a principal in a company called Securacom that provided security for the World Trade Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport. The company, was backed by KuwAm, a Kuwaiti-American investment firm.

look into it.....