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Any explanation why the MA & NV RP Delegates voted for McCain?

A blog entry on www.lewrockwell.com claims that the (4) RP delegates from Nevada voted for McCain. And, that one of them raised money from the local RP organization to get to the convention to cast her vote for the death eater.

I don't get it. Does anybody know why they would have voted that way?

here is the link:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/022717.html




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The same reason that Rand caves

Go along to get along in the faint hope that you will be included in the Ring of Power...

You castigate one, while celebrating and viciously enforcing the other... Think about what you are doing, before you do it. THINK!

I'm Wondering

Were you guys who caved:

A. Pressured into caving and succumbed?

B. Duped into caving with GOP false promises?

C. McCain/neocon moles all along?

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Drama queen.

If everything I did, in your eyes, is negated becaue I said go die, then you can go die yourself.

I was there.

I was there. And it wasn't pretty - in fact, it was worse than it's been described in most places.

RedHats following us around. BlackHats demanding to search our bags and confiscating whatever they felt like. Everyone around us laughing and jeering at us. Ugly faces shoving themselves in our faces.

No, it wasn't pretty. But we knew it wouldn't be before we ever went in there. We ourselves described it in advance as "Christians in the Roman coliseum" and "Davey Crocket at the Alamo". We were going in to LOSE - but we were going to do it standing on PRINCIPLE in order to trailblaze for freedom-lovers who would come after us, and who could look to our example for inspiration and guidance as they fought the good fight.

I was only an alternate, but I did everything I could to make sure our delegates could stand by their principles to the fullest extent possible under the rules and state laws. For two days we tried to get Dr. Paul a speaking slot, under a "Fairness Campaign." Then we pushed for delegates to "Abstain from McCain" if they weren't able to change their pledged votes. And on the final night, we tried to get an actual roll call vote for VP instead of an acclamation, so that all of the RP supporters could at least cast their votes for him (there are NO bound votes for VP).

Even when I was given a delegate pass for 30 minutes to have the "experience" of being on the floor, I used my time to take petitions to small delegations like Guam and the Marianas Islands, to try to get that 5-delegation majority support and get RP's name in the nomination.

Like so many of the RP supporters that went to the RNC, I busted my butt to fulfill my duties and obligations to those who had busted their own butts to get me there, and who wanted to see SOMETHING registered for Dr. Paul there.

And then, we were betrayed.

I don't use that word lightly. I sent text messages and emails, talked to delegates individually, did everything I could to make sure our people didn't listen to the likes of Drew Ivers... and then heard about delegate after delegate voting for McCain, when they didn't have to.

I'm disgusted. Yes, we are all individuals, and as individuals have to make our own decisions. But then we have to face the consequences of those decisions. Those delegates who sold out can be commended for their courageous fight against the enemy in order to get there, just like Benedict Arnold. But like Benedict Arnold, they will be forever stained with their final actions, where they betrayed the trust of those who had sent them there to do a job.

Shame on them. I have burned so many political bridges in order to go up there and stand on principle - how dare they turn that into dung. And that's what they have done.

I've read all of the reasons, and all of the excuses. None of them rise to the level of acceptable. I was there. I know.

Now, let's get on with the Revolution, and take back our party. We will be doing so in my state. What about in your state?

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Bill Greene, Chairman
Delegates for Ron Paul for Vice President
http://www.DelegatesForRonPaul.com/

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OF DOING EVERYTHING THEY WANT IS WORKING!!!!

Get your kids in the military over in Iraq and Afghanistan -- let's get more senators that do everything McCain wants too!

If they come to your house for your guns, just hand them over -- it's all part of the strategy folks!

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Love It!

I wish I had written that one.

You Showed Them

How does voting for John McCain show them you can't be taken for granted? They got your vote - that's what they wanted! The GOP machine is snickering at your "strategy". They rolled you.

Re-think this when you are

Re-think this when you are ready to think with your head rather than your emotions. This movement will take years. If you are willing to throw everything away for one night just to "show" them that we don't wanna work with them, then good luck with your plan and I'll see you in a few years. We'll see where you are then.

Work With Them?

Actually, we don't want to work with them. They are AGAINST us. Did you see how they treated Ron Paul throughout the campaign? WORSE than the proverbial red-headed step-child.

Their idea of us working WITH them is for us to capitulate and support their NWO neocon. You fell right into their hands. Giving into them accomplishes NOTHING.

We've been working with them all these years. How far has it gotten us?

We're going to take over the GOP by supporting their same ol, same ol international neocons? No, that's how they are getting you to assimilate into them. You're not changing them, they're changing you. You're not getting them to board our ship, you've boarded theirs.

You got owned and you will always be owned if you cave.

Now if they had a reasonably constitutional candidate, your strategy might have some merit, but McCain is part of the problem. Supporting him is no solution. Not in the short term, not in the long run.

You are not going to get them to work with you by supporting McSame, you are getting them to LAUGH at you because you've already capitulated to them. They don't even have to try to appease you, you already bent to their desires.

You think in the future they will work with you because you gave into them now? Are you that naive? We've been giving into them over and over and all it does its tell them that we're willing to support globalist neocons - so they keep offering us more of them. They will offer us more neos in the future because you told them you would support them.

Reality Check

You said: " Actually, we don't want to work with them. They are AGAINST us. Did you see how they treated Ron Paul throughout the campaign? "

Hello? Ron Paul himself is working with the Republican Party and seeks to change it from WITHIN the party! He wanted delegates in Minnesota, not to make a big scene or to throw him a few votes, but to INFILTRATE the party!

Get Real!

He is not trying to change it by going along with them, he is trying to change it by standing AGAINST them when they are wrong. He is showing them what a conservative Republican is supposed to stand for and REFUSING to support neocons like McCain.

Ron Paul has steadfastly refused to endorse John McCain to this very moment. So why would you VOTE for McCain? Are you saying Ron Paul is going about it wrong by standing on principle?

Yes, he wanted delegates to infiltrate the GOP - not to vote for McCain and give the neocons even more support.

Oh yes, when the time is right you and 999 others will suddenly show your true colors and support a Paulite candidate some year in the future (if America still exists). We know we can trust you to stand firm on your convictions because you are doing such a good job of it now.

Even if you succeed in your devious strategy, people will not accept a candidate foisted on them under false pretenses. You will experience blowback like never before. You will appear to be the deceiving snakey politicians that the public will go against.

Reality Check

You said: " Actually, we don't want to work with them. They are AGAINST us. Did you see how they treated Ron Paul throughout the campaign? "

Hello? Ron Paul himself is working with the Republican Party and seeks to change it from WITHIN the party! He wanted delegates in Minnesota, not to make a big scene or to throw him a few votes, but to INFILTRATE the party!

Reality Check

You said: " Actually, we don't want to work with them. They are AGAINST us. Did you see how they treated Ron Paul throughout the campaign? "

Hello? Ron Paul himself is working with the Republican Party and seeks to change it from WITHIN the party! He wanted delegates in Minnesota, not to make a big scene or to throw him a few votes, but to INFILTRATE the party!

Not sure why there are 3 of these comments (above)...

but there's no way to delete..

There are 3 because you hit

There are 3 because you hit post comment 3 times..there is an easy one..lol..push once and go on..DP is slow.

I, too, have given up on the GOP. I heard someone on TV last night say that there is only 2 things you can do with corruption..give in, or give up. It bothered me, but I do not think it is true. I choose not to work with a corrupt organization that truly cares NOTHING for the people who voted for RP, and whose members I seem to have little in common with, at day's end. I will, however, continue to work against corruption. This thing is SO huge, tho. I found out today that EVERY single bank in the US is regulated by the FEDS and all checks are cleared by the Federal Reserve. ALL electronic transfers go through the Federal Reserve. My bank is NOT a national bank, yet at its core, it is. There is so much complexity it boggles my mind, sometimes..

To Those Pointing the Finger

Those who disagree with what the delegates did, PLEASE tell me how abstaining would have helped the movement. Until you can answer this, stop pointing the finger.

I gave you my opinion about how what we did helps the movement. Now you tell me how what you would have done would have helped the movement.

Blind

It would have shown that we don't bend over to cowtow to their vision of how America should be. JUST LIKE DR. NO VOTING NO TO EVERYTHING THAT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

But you tell yourself whatever you need to to sleep at night.

It's scary that so many

It's scary that so many people still don't understand what we are doing. It's scary because this movement will go nowhere with this ignorance. This movement isn't about standing around protesting and saying no to McCain!!!! It's about action!!! It's about getting involved!!

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It's about screwing us over so you can gain a smidgen of popularity with the neocons.

We've had posts up for days explaining this from people

who were there first hand. How did you miss them?

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Sick of this

I'm sick of you people judging. This is a long term mission. It's called strategy!!! Abstaining would have achieved nothing and would have made it harder for us to get involved in the party. It was a strategic move.

And for those of you who keep saying that we were elected to vote for Ron Paul or abstain, you are wrong. As a delegate, I was NOT elected by Ron Paul people, so if I use your logic, I HAD to vote McCain. But this is not the reason I did it. It's called strategy. Stop passing judgment and DO something for the movement. That's what we are doing. We have a plan for the future and it is much bigger than doing something as useless as abstaining.

Traitor

Die in a fire.

How old are you? You sound

How old are you? You sound like an idiot who only hurts this movement.

um

I've been in this movement longer than you traitor. I've walked the streets. I've made and put up signs. I was a Precinct Captain. I donated money. I got several people interested in Ron Paul and they voted for him. I went door to door canvassing. I put together several canvassing parties where Ron Paul supporters went to other Precinct Captain's districts to canvas.

You gave your vote away.

Good job asshole.

Like I said, go die in a fire.

I do not care what good you

I do not care what good you think you did. By telling another person to die, you just negated it ALL in my eyes. To make matters worse, you said it to someone who is also working for Ron Paul. You are rude, and crude, and if you ARE old enuf to know better, than why don't you??

You see them now Crickett?

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/60991

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Lisa C.

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Agreed......

and had you abstained or if possible voted for Dr. Paul, it would not have changed the outcome. However, the outcome would most likely not have been unanimous decision for McLame. But in the long run, we must continue the course of ardent support for Dr. Paul and his politically and economically superior ideology.

Abstaining would not have

Abstaining would not have spread Dr. Paul's message; just the opposite. The republicans are more willing to listen to our message than they were before. Why is this so hard to understand?? Can you explain to me what your strategy is to take the party back from the outside??? Outside is where we would have found ourselves had we abstained.

Wait till you go to your

Wait till you go to your next republican county meetings. they will treat you as if the only thing you are is a McCain supporter. Have fun swallowing those hairy nuts!!

Oh lord, maya.

Makes me want to cough-up a hairball.

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Lisa C.

If you love freedom, please consider joining: www.campaignforliberty.com

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